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Lane and Simon both weigh 190lbs. Lane just has more experience at the pro level particularly covering the slot, plus is a pretty good gunner. IMO Simon is in competition for CB2, not so much for BBC.
Jville":3cgh5f82 said:I don't know that the term "turnstile" in the OP is the best way to describe it. I think of most team members as being on a 4 year cycle.
DavidSeven":2ooftiaz said:I wonder what the responses would be if you framed this question as a Maxwell vs. Avril or Maxwell vs. Wagner type thing, because that's ultimately what it would come down to.
Maxwell has shown an incredible knack for making big plays and being physical, but, with Sherman being good enough to play island at LCB and ETIII therefore having more freedom to shade the RCB, I don't know if that's a position you want to dump significant money in. A guy with lesser skill can still shine in that position given the surrounding circumstances.
kearly":wxjjrs5p said:Jville":wxjjrs5p said:I don't know that the term "turnstile" in the OP is the best way to describe it. I think of most team members as being on a 4 year cycle.
Well, we're only going to get 1+ seasons out of Maxwell as a starter. If Simon takes over in 2015, we'd only have him for two seasons before he's a FA. If Pinkins replaces Simon in 2017, he'd only have one year before UFA. Realistically, you are looking at a new corner every 1-2 years if they go the rookie contract route.
kearly":2y4nsm6f said:Seattle led more than it trailed in 2013, and often they led big. Game situations often dictated that opponents abandon the run. Consider that despite these conditions, Richard Sherman was still the least targeted corner in the game.
Meaning, Seattle's other corners were likely targeted a ton and carry a huge amount of importance to our defense, especially since they often cover #1 WRs.
If Maxwell posts 8 interceptions and a low QB rating against next season, yet is limited to a "middle class" level free agent deal on the open market (say $7 million per) due to a lack of resume and scheme concerns, would you want Seattle to budget for him or would you want to see CB #2 be a turnstile given Pete's success?
Bigpumpkin":2y4nsm6f said:I see most on this message board having a difficult time with the last week of August this year as we must cut down to 53. Come next February through April, the Front Office will have to make very serious decisions .....some will be very painful for you and me.
I think your underestimating the value of 4-3 lbers, you may have forgotten how horrible our lbers were in 2008 to 2010, Wagner is a top 10 mlb in this league and is on the verge of becoming elite Imo he's the next guy that needs locking up and is critical to the success of our defense.Tical21":2y4nsm6f said:I personally don't think they can afford to keep Maxwell, Wagner, Avril or Wright, so I think the point is kind of moot. There probably isn't a 4-3 LB in the league I would pay big money to. Decent, cheap 4-3 LB replacements are wayyyy to easy to find. So in that conversation, I think it would come down to Avril/Maxwell. Of the two, I pay Maxwell at the moment. We haven't seen Avril do anything other than spot duty, and at the very least we could fill in for him with Irvin in a pinch. I would feel more comfortable with that than I would penciling in Simon or Lane at the moment. Could very well change this season.
I think the best chance to keep Maxwell would have been to lock him up right about now. Probably not possible. I like Maxwell a lot, and I think his value over player X may potentially be cavernous, but I just don't think we can afford to pay another one. Have to trust that Carroll and Schneider are going to be able to find/groom a replacement.
speaking of blocking for lane my favorite play of his last year came on the saints mnf game, the play of avrils strip sack followed by Michael Bennett catching the ball and lumbered into the end zone, lane blocked like a champ to allow Bennett to score, asked afterward about his effort, he said, that he went all out so when it was his turn with a pick others would reciprocate the effort.Seahawkfan80":345xqt8w said:I think I remember Lane run from wherever it was to block downfield after an interception. I think that speed alone will end up helping him secure a spot with us. If Maxie can play for a midrange or lower contract, we may be able to keep him..but if he wants big bucks, big bucks, big bucks, no whammy......Let him walk.
jlwaters1":3emhgb9m said:speaking of blocking for lane my favorite play of his last year came on the saints mnf game, the play of avrils strip sack followed by Michael Bennett catching the ball and lumbered into the end zone, lane blocked like a champ to allow Bennett to score, asked afterward about his effort, he said, that he went all out so when it was his turn with a pick others would reciprocate the effort.Seahawkfan80":3emhgb9m said:I think I remember Lane run from wherever it was to block downfield after an interception. I think that speed alone will end up helping him secure a spot with us. If Maxie can play for a midrange or lower contract, we may be able to keep him..but if he wants big bucks, big bucks, big bucks, no whammy......Let him walk.
niveky":2t32dz0u said:what if he became good enough(even if not sherman good) where they felt with the pass rush in place and the priority on keeping the pass rush where it is that they were to try to shop sherman in a trade. I don't want sherman to leave the team or anything like that. he is one of my favorite seahawks, but if they show they can continue to develop the corners they get like they do and have them playing at a high enough level, i think that this front office would go for it. I think for the fo if it comes down to the best corner in the game vs a very good corner and 2 - 5 other players they can plug into other positions(obtained in trade, extra cap space freed up from such a trade) and the upgrade would be substantial enough they would do it.
Ziggyy108":y3vgatk7 said:jlwaters1":y3vgatk7 said:speaking of blocking for lane my favorite play of his last year came on the saints mnf game, the play of avrils strip sack followed by Michael Bennett catching the ball and lumbered into the end zone, lane blocked like a champ to allow Bennett to score, asked afterward about his effort, he said, that he went all out so when it was his turn with a pick others would reciprocate the effort.Seahawkfan80":y3vgatk7 said:I think I remember Lane run from wherever it was to block downfield after an interception. I think that speed alone will end up helping him secure a spot with us. If Maxie can play for a midrange or lower contract, we may be able to keep him..but if he wants big bucks, big bucks, big bucks, no whammy......Let him walk.
The Bennett-Quake
I was at that game. That play was so crazy. The Clink blew up!!!!
kearly":1k2ehpix said:I think what really interests me about Maxwell is his massive moneyball appeal. He's a bit of a clunky looking player so I think a lot of GMs are going to assume he's the product of a great system, which will keep his asking price way down.
Smellyman":7r7dsi35 said:kearly":7r7dsi35 said:I think what really interests me about Maxwell is his massive moneyball appeal. He's a bit of a clunky looking player so I think a lot of GMs are going to assume he's the product of a great system, which will keep his asking price way down. quote]
I blame the number. 41 just looks clunky on a corner.