BREAKING NEWS: Percy Harvin Traded to Jets

[lsheldon]

What impact does this have on future cap space? Are we on the hook for a lot of dead money now?

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

FWIW

My take on it is this, Pete Caroll runs a very tight ship. He wants players who WANT to play football. What he doesn't want is a distraction from a guy who is OK with coasting by and collecting a check. If he was even close to the type cancer that I believe he probably was then Im totally OK with this.

For all of you calling for PC and JS's head I would like to remind you where we were before them ......


JIM MORA JR

And Tim Ruskell



Not gonna lie, I'm disappointed by what the Hawks traded and then received in return. If it ends up being a 2nd I won't be real pissed cuz it'll be a high second which offsets the 1st traded away for the guy. A 7th lost is a 'meh' so only the 3rd will sting a bit. But if it's lower than a 2nd, UGH!! I will say however, the way he opened up the field with the jet sweeps in XLVIII and then sealed the "W" with the KO return just about make up for it. Think the Hawks still would've won that day, but I'm guessing we'd have been biting our nails plenty more if he's not a Hawk.

I have no doubt this is an attitude thing btw.

 

[entropyrulesall]

Fine, anyone is entitled to believe what they want.

All I know is Golden and Russell have both denied it. Doug denied it. Ashton's GF denied it. It's never been reported by a single legitimized news source. If we want to believe .NET posters have better info than all of them, OK. Not questioning anyone's credibility, but you guys are relaying hearsay from other people's hearsay.

Send me a link to those quotes because I think you made that up. Because NO ONE in the media has straight up asked Russell, "Did Golden Tate sleep with your ex-wife".

None of the 3 you named, RW, GT, ADB, have been asked the question and why would Ashton's gf be a credible source?

He tweeted out to leave Golden alone almost immediately after Golden was shooting down these rumors on Twitter. ADB bashed several of his followers for spreading this rumor in typical ADB fashion.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/DangeRussWilson/status/464176960969924608[/tweet]

Of course Russell's going to send out a tweet like that; the tweet neither confirmed nor denied anything. If you were in his position and you admitted that your wife did cheat on you, you would have to start answering questions about why you couldn't keep your wife around? what was it about your relationship? what type of a man is Russell at home? All these questions and more would continue and it would end up being an even larger distraction.

Even if it did happen, for all parties involved it is better to deny that it did. This is why denial should not be taken for proof of anything. What is interesting however is that there are no clear denials that this happened by any party involved. Your evidence for this is one vague tweet by Russell...

 

[volsunghawk]

My initial thoughts is that there wasn't just a single reason for this... I imagine it's probably a combination of overall attitude issues, friction with teammates, on-field production, contract, etc. And if those things are accurate, then we'll do better with him gone. After all, he wasn't making as big an impact as we all hoped he would, when it comes down to it.

Corollary thoughts:

Would have been nice to keep Tate (that is, if we assume zero evidence to those rumors about him and Ashton). He wasn't really a game-changer guy, but he was always good for some impressive clutch catches, and he seemed to have a good connection with Wilson during the scramble drills.

This should end up giving the team more flexibility cap-wise in the next several years. That's an overall positive.

I'm hoping this means we'll see more of Richardson and see Norwood being activated. But mainly, I'm hoping it means more Lynch.

 

[Hasselbeck]

Love how all this comes out after he was traded.

Where were all these reports a week ago?

Winning the Super Bowl covers up a lot of stuff...

Meh.. winning doesn't have anything to do with it. If anything that'd be an even bigger story.

Just laughing at all the "sources" coming out of the woodwork now.

 

[-The Glove-]

Fine, anyone is entitled to believe what they want.

All I know is Golden and Russell have both denied it. Doug denied it. Ashton's GF denied it. It's never been reported by a single legitimized news source. If we want to believe .NET posters have better info than all of them, OK. Not questioning anyone's credibility, but you guys are relaying hearsay from other people's hearsay.

Send me a link to those quotes because I think you made that up. Because NO ONE in the media has straight up asked Russell, "Did Golden Tate sleep with your ex-wife".

None of the 3 you named, RW, GT, ADB, have been asked the question and why would Ashton's gf be a credible source?

He tweeted out to leave Golden alone almost immediately after Golden was shooting down these rumors on Twitter. ADB bashed several of his followers for spreading this rumor in typical ADB fashion.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/DangeRussWilson/status/464176960969924608[/tweet]

Of course Russell's going to send out a tweet like that; the tweet neither confirmed nor denied anything. If you were in his position and you admitted that your wife did cheat on you, you would have to start answering questions about why you couldn't keep your wife around? what was it about your relationship? what type of a man is Russell at home? All these questions and more would continue and it would end up being an even larger distraction.

Even if it did happen, for all parties involved it is better to deny that it did. This is why denial should not be taken for proof of anything. What is interesting however is that there are no clear denials that this happened by any party involved. Your evidence for this is one vague tweet by Russell...

We'll never know for sure what happened so to continue bringing it up is pointless...

Here's what we do know though-Golden Tate is still with Elise Pollard. Elise Pollard is still good friends with Ashton Wilson.

 

[White Devil]

Oh geez.

Look up Golden Tate's GF's instagram. They have been dating for years, and she is a close friend of Ashton's.

She has a picture with Ashton literally on 9/14/2014.

:34853_doh:

http://instagram.com/elisepollard

I know this isn't the topic to be discussed but I couldn't help myself.

This has to be the most naive statements I've ever read.

You do know that some couples enjoy bringing a 3rd into their trysts, correct? The fact that the girls are so close only enforces the rumor. Russ is a pretty straight dude and very religious, how do you think he would react to hearing about his wife joining the 2 of them?

To think that just because nobody said it happened, or that Tate and his girl are still together and friends with her so nothing could have happened is just pure naivety.

 

[bevellisthedevil]

I have Ashton's Blouse and it had semen and maple on it. Jesus guys give it a rest.

 

[dontbelikethat]

Love how all this comes out after he was traded.

Where were all these reports a week ago?

Winning the Super Bowl covers up a lot of stuff...

Meh.. winning doesn't have anything to do with it. If anything that'd be an even bigger story.

Just laughing at all the "sources" coming out of the woodwork now.

Yeah, but it really makes no sense to get rid of him now and for that cost if he wasn't a detriment. That dead money hit for this year and next year is worse than the compensation that the Hawks will get from the trade.

 

[Tech Worlds]

Who else suspects Douggie will go off this week?

Go off on Twitter? What's new.

 

[pehawk]

DavidSeven's on to something, I like his direction. In fact, I don't believe we actually traded Percy Harvin. I mean, have the Seahawks or Percy confirmed it? No, this is all hearsay.

 

[-The Glove-]

Oh geez.

Look up Golden Tate's GF's instagram. They have been dating for years, and she is a close friend of Ashton's.

She has a picture with Ashton literally on 9/14/2014.

:34853_doh:

http://instagram.com/elisepollard

I know this isn't the topic to be discussed but I couldn't help myself.

This has to be the most naive statements I've ever read.

You do know that some couples enjoy bringing a 3rd into their trysts, correct? The fact that the girls are so close only enforces the rumor. Russ is a pretty straight dude and very religious, how do you think he would react to hearing about his wife joining the 2 of them?

To think that just because nobody said it happened, or that Tate and his girl are still together and friends with her so nothing could have happened is just pure naivety.

Lol.

 

[DavidSeven]

Yeah... that's the last I'm gonna talk about that.

Anyone else oddly excited to get Richardson and Norwood on the field? I don't feel as down about the move as I might have thought I'd be. Seeing what these guys have is part of that.

 

[Largent80]

ADF....Angry Doug Farrar....... :lol:

BTW...Percy Sledge is better than Percy Harvin.

 

[kearly]

kearly, that ain't true. That is more rampant rumor-mongering. Doug Baldwin called out fans several times for spreading that rumor.

Golden's longtime girlfriend was Ashton's closest friend in Seattle. Golden is still with that same girlfriend to this day. That same girlfriend has posted pictures with Ashton in these recent months well after these ridiculous rumors.

Let's not legitimate this.

Never said the Tate rumor was true. Only said that the players all believed it or were at least aware of it. Key difference. As far as what I believe, I choose to know what I do not know, and am willing to give Tate the benefit of the doubt, the same way his GF has chosen to do so.

That said, do I believe this was a huge issue in the locker room? I think you'd be nuts not to think that, and it would make liars of a lot of people who've given locker room related accounts. Why the story (with some evidence) of Harvin giving Tate a black eye in that same time frame if not for the rumor existing?

Again, for I think the 4th time now, this doesn't mean I am secretly propping up the rumor. But I think there is clear evidence the situation had massive reverberations in the locker room, and it probably had a lot to do with Seattle making almost no effort to keep one of the most valuable home grown players on offense when he hit FA.

I'm surprised some people are having such a hard time grasping this take.

 

[Scottemojo]

I usually learn more about the posters in these discussions than I do about the rumors.

Now we got one talking about threesomes.
:th2thumbs:

 

[kearly]

Now we got one talking about threesomes.

My dad went the lesbian affair route. Dirty old man.

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

My initial thoughts is that there wasn't just a single reason for this... I imagine it's probably a combination of overall attitude issues, friction with teammates, on-field production, contract, etc. And if those things are accurate, then we'll do better with him gone. After all, he wasn't making as big an impact as we all hoped he would, when it comes down to it.
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This should end up giving the team more flexibility cap-wise in the next several years. That's an overall positive.

I'm hoping this means we'll see more of Richardson and see Norwood being activated. But mainly, I'm hoping it means more Lynch.

Good post and agree with you on all accounts. Got a feeling we're gonna see plenty of P-Rich now.

 

[dontbelikethat]

DavidSeven's on to something, I like his direction. In fact, I don't believe we actually traded Percy Harvin. I mean, have the Seahawks or Percy confirmed it? No, this is all hearsay.

I get both sides, but let's not reach. JFK was hit by the secret service right? 9/11, by the government right? Some posters here say may be naive to believe other wise.

 

[entropyrulesall]

This explains why the rumor was fabricated and why stupid people continue to believe that it is true. It lends no credence to the validity of the rumor itself.

Maybe you should consider some of the evidence for it instead of resorting to confirmation bias. I didn't want to believe the rumor either and I still don't know if I do. But after considering the evidence I have to admit the strong likelihood that it is true.

And what is this "evidence" you speak of?

The evidence is the actions of the people involved: Wilson announces divorce through the team, a red flag. The team did not sign a major contributor that they had built years and years developing, another red flag. Then the rumor came out. Why would such a rumor come out if there wasn't any inkling of it before. Why was it not immediately denied by all parties?

There's no smoking gun, I'll admit, but reading between the lines SOMETHING clearly happened or the course of events would not have followed. While you are right about not jumping to conclusions, you seem like you don't want to consider any of what has transpired, which is called denial.