Bevell will be top coaching candidate in 2014

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Blitzer88":28o2yb8f said:
I think he has last some of his play call luster from last year.
I agree, but a lot of blame can be on the line and injuries. I hate making excuses, but damn the line is bad. It'll be interesting to see how the offense performs once they're healthy.
 

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maybe he will go 0-16 just ilke his buddy Gus
 

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No such thing as a perfect OC or playcaller.

Everyone assumes the players make Bevell. Nobody considers that he might've had a major impact.
He had a considerable impact in a positive way last night. I was thrilled with the calls on our first two drives. I've never seen him start off with such unexpected brilliance, and I am NOT saying that because most of the plays worked. What do you think about the first two drives in particular, as regards to play calling? I'm curious to know your thoughts on it.

I also thought it was one of his best called games, especially the first two drives. It felt like a good ol' scripted Holmgren start. He was calling plays to beat the pressure and hide those line problems.

I didn't have a problem with him calling some deeper drops later in the game to let routes develop more and test the o-line. Unfortunately, we saw (and knew) what happens to the line most times RW does a 7 or even 5 step drop.

I was pleasantly surprised by how well we ran the ball. Beast rushed for about 4.3 y/c and Turbin was at 5 y/c. Bevell is at his best when we can establish the run (healthy o-line helps) and then mix it up to include PA, RO, Screens to relieve pressure, boots and traditional drop backs. That's what was happening at the end of last year. An almost entirely healthy offense basically able to attack you in any way they want.

Sometimes I think he's a little vanilla with his play calling, but overall I have to admit I liked what I saw last night. There were one or two bad calls, but it was a well coached game on offense.
 

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I'm just glad the days of Greg Knapp are gone and we aren't stuck with someone like Todd Haley.

Bevell needs to stay as long as we can keep him.
 

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Who are the top candidates in 2014 to replace Bevell at OC? Does anybody know?

Brian Billick?
Mike Sherman?
Brad Childress?
Norm Chow?

'Cuz I'll admit, I don't exactly know who would be a good fit... or who would even be available...

But...
I do know Jon Gruden loves him up some Russell Wilson BIGTIME from watching that show where they analyzed film together before the draft.
He was his biggest proponent leading up to draft day... and they were definitely reading each others minds/on the same page in the filmroom IMO.
Gruden would make a good lieutenant to Captain Pete wouldn't he? What do you guys think?

(I know: hate hate hate he sux blah b blah LMAO...) but he did win a SuperBowl with a great defense and some creative play calling rah rah rah siss boom bah on the sidelines in Tampa didn't he.? Bring him in and kick the tires...
 

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He'll be about as successful as Bradley.

The brain talent in Seattle resides in two individuals.
 

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kigenzun":1vzbiv2j said:
Who are the top candidates in 2014 to replace Bevell at OC? Does anybody know?

Brian Billick?
Mike Sherman?
Brad Childress?
Norm Chow?

'Cuz I'll admit, I don't exactly know who would be a good fit... or who would even be available...

But...
I do know Jon Gruden loves him up some Russell Wilson BIGTIME from watching that show where they analyzed film together before the draft.
He was his biggest proponent leading up to draft day... and they were definitely reading each others minds/on the same page in the filmroom IMO.
Gruden would make a good lieutenant to Captain Pete wouldn't he? What do you guys think?

(I know: hate hate hate he sux blah b blah LMAO...) but he did win a SuperBowl with a great defense and some creative play calling rah rah rah siss boom bah on the sidelines in Tampa didn't he.? Bring him in and kick the tires...

Promote Cable to OC, hire Mike Holmgren to be his Passing Coordinator.

Holmgren will teach Wilson to call his own shots on passing plays and make him audibly more awesome. See what I did there?

And before anyone is like Holmgren wouldn't work, the guy coached Brett Farve plus Hass into franchise QBs and had a weird love fest for Seneca Wallace.

We all know Wilson is the QB, Holmgren dreamed of when he took on the Wallace project... it could work but I don't know how Cable would do as an OC. AND you never want to give the Walrus more power than you should.
 

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People want to complain about the QB sneak.A center thats supposed to be an All Pro.A LG that people here like to describe as a roadgrader a Rg that people here like to call great run blocker and even have used the term elite to describe and they cant get 6 inches?Why would people want our Oline coach to be OC?
If you can't get that first down on a sneak your Oline failed miserably and that comes down to heart and desire.That wasnt an Xs and Os thing it was about who is more physical and wants it more and the cards won that one down.
 

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I get confused with the play calling sometimes. I didn't mind the QB sneak call, but the fact that it came with an empty backfield had me scratching my head. But I think having the same OC for a young QB is the most important thing, so I want to see Bevell stay for at least a couple more years. These are huge years in Russell's development. I know he could handle a new system, he's done it before, but rather than wasting time to learn a new system, it would be better spent perfecting his skills, reads, etc. in this offense. He would be more lethal than he is now.
 

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justafan":uqpcysqy said:
People want to complain about the QB sneak.A center thats supposed to be an All Pro.A LG that people here like to describe as a roadgrader a Rg that people here like to call great run blocker and even have used the term elite to describe and they cant get 6 inches?Why would people want our Oline coach to be OC?
If you can't get that first down on a sneak your Oline failed miserably and that comes down to heart and desire.That wasnt an Xs and Os thing it was about who is more physical and wants it more and the cards won that one down.

THIS! SO MUCH OF THIS!
 

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I said this in another thread, but it got lost in the wash. If Mike Shannahan keeps this downward spiral going in DC, Snyder is fickle enough to fire him. If that happens I'd scoop up his son in an instant. The Redskins offense last year was explosive and a thing of beauty. He can't be blamed for his Dads and RG3's stupidness.

If Bevelle moved on, that's who I'd want as our next oc
 

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justafan":8s70j39n said:
People want to complain about the QB sneak.A center thats supposed to be an All Pro.A LG that people here like to describe as a roadgrader a Rg that people here like to call great run blocker and even have used the term elite to describe and they cant get 6 inches?Why would people want our Oline coach to be OC?
If you can't get that first down on a sneak your Oline failed miserably and that comes down to heart and desire.That wasnt an Xs and Os thing it was about who is more physical and wants it more and the cards won that one down.

Eh, run-blocking on a not-quite-so-obvious running down is much different from run-blocking any other time. Sweezy looks great when he gets a head of steam up because he's athletic and vicious, he looks worst when it's just him against a big dude (as in pass pro) without any momentum on either side. I think it's a minority, or even split perhaps, who use the word elite and Carpenter in the same sentence. So I don't believe that part of the argument holds up.

And because of the formation the entire world knew it was a sneak, that's the point of much of the criticism. Arizona was supposed to have a decent run D, you don't at least have Lynch in the backfield to create some doubt?

Play the execution card all you want, there's legitimate criticism here of the call and of Bevell himself. For the 2 opening drives the guy looked masterful, then he did what he's been doing the rest of the season, trying to get his QB killed with 7 step drops and longer-developing routes. I'm reaching a limit with Bevell for that specific reason. The rest of the playcalling, eh, I'd give him a pass on because of the line weaknesses. But when he specifically ignores the line weaknesses in trying to be cute it angers me. "Ooh, hey, I know, nobody will ever expect us to go deep on this down and every other down because they'd think I was crazy to expose our SB-hope QB to death by dismemberment. I'll show them I'm crazy LIKE A FOX."
 

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justafan":304vdtol said:
People want to complain about the QB sneak.A center thats supposed to be an All Pro.A LG that people here like to describe as a roadgrader a Rg that people here like to call great run blocker and even have used the term elite to describe and they cant get 6 inches?Why would people want our Oline coach to be OC?
If you can't get that first down on a sneak your Oline failed miserably and that comes down to heart and desire.That wasnt an Xs and Os thing it was about who is more physical and wants it more and the cards won that one down.

Actually, I thought both Unger and Carp were fine on that play. It was McQuistan who failed to keep the end from crashing down on the play.
 

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The only observation I have on the offense is whether it is a gimmick or not. Can it be made ineffective. From what I have seen with Wilson over the past season and a half is that the offense has the ability to slug it out with you on the ground or can air it out depending on what the defense is giving.

This season the Texans came the closest to totally shutting down the offense because of their strong front-7 and the Seahawks changes to the OL due to injury. Panthers, 9ers and Colts had varying degrees of success as well limiting the offense, but the Texans was the game where it truly felt that there was no chance of mounting a "normal" offense to put up scores.

I would have to agree with justafan that regardless of how unorthodox I felt the 4th and 1 or other short yardage calls are, it still does come down to execution.

Not sure which teams that could be replacing a HC would be interested in Bevell. Anyone have an idea or match in mind?

I could see him doing okay in Carolina, maybe Tampa. Is Frazier on the hot-seat in Minny? Would the NY Giants want to bring him in? No way for Dallas. Those are my quick thoughts on possible destinations.
 

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