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It looks as if all of these OC's that ran around interviewing for HC jobs came up with identical game plans for their playoff opponents. It worked for some.
 

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Bevell has been pretty predictable and uncreative lately, but lets also focus on that fact that Russell hasn't been doing well either. He needs to be sharp for us to win come Sunday.
 

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Blitzer88":35tbyhfu said:
Bevell has been pretty predictable and uncreative lately, but lets also focus on that fact that Russell hasn't been doing well either. He needs to be sharp for us to win come Sunday.

except as a whole that would be incorrect

yesterday not good
Game before 65% completion 102 qb rating Rams
Game before not good AZ
game before 67% completion 86 QB rating only because of one improbable int. NYG
game before 60% completion 82 QB rating again due to a hail mary int SF
game before 73% completion 140 QB rating NO

So his last 6 games, have had some ups and some downs but only 2 truly bad games, 2 avg games, 2 good games

The issue is the play calling.
 

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Largent80":14wmseix said:
Ha......We are 14-3 with home field advantage. BEVELL SUCKS.?

Sorry but you are pathetic Bevell haters.

Are you really going to say we are 14-3 because of our offense right now?

Just stop. The offense is not good right now. Saying otherwise is foolish.

Now that doesn't mean they cant come out on Sunday and put together a great game.. but as of late it's been ugly.
 

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How many read option runs up the middle can you run in one game? Seems like he could be done with the game plan in 10 minutes!

With that said... Wilson needs to step it up. He looks so uncomfortable in the pocket and rarely gets the ball out quick, which makes little sense since he has got to know this simple offense inside and out by now, as hard as he works. I don't get it.
 

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Largent80":2pk8bu9l said:
Ha......We are 14-3 with home field advantage. BEVELL SUCKS.?

Sorry but you are pathetic Bevell haters.
You realize we're like 8-8 and missed the playoffs if we have an average defense, right? Actually, clearly, you don't. Give it some thought.
 

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There has never been an OC, no matter how brilliant, that his teams fans haven't exhausted themselves complaining about. That includes Bevell and every single person to ever call plays for the Seahawks. And every person that will call plays for the Seahawks in future seasons. You could program the world's greatest super-computer to call plays for our offense and you'd still have results-based hindsight criticism. It's inevitable.

That said, yeah... a change actually is needed at OC. And not even because of the playcalling (which was pretty bad in the Saints game). But because Bevell just sucks at adapting, and we have an offense with too many exploitable weaknesses to forgive an OC who adapts slowly. That doesn't mean Bevell is crap, but I do think it means he no longer fits our needs on offense.
 

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RolandDeschain":tuacpr66 said:
Largent80":tuacpr66 said:
Ha......We are 14-3 with home field advantage. BEVELL SUCKS.?

Sorry but you are pathetic Bevell haters.
You realize we're like 8-8 and missed the playoffs if we have an average defense, right? Actually, clearly, you don't. Give it some thought.

If we are an average defense we probably have more offensive passing yards and take more offensive risks. It can be a circular argument if not for the the fact that the chicken is Pete Carroll - a defensive guru. The egg is the conservative play calling based on the running game - at which we are #2 in the league - though no one seems to want to acknowledge this.

We are also the #8 in per pass metrics - specifically DVOA.
 

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RolandDeschain":3nq8mok3 said:
Paul Allen should go offer Josh McDaniels $10,000,000 per year to be our OC. I'd die of happiness.

Not Paul's choice, it will be Carroll's choice. Paul will not interfere with something that is working as well as it is.
 

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Hasselbeck":5dr7fdcm said:
Largent80":5dr7fdcm said:
Ha......We are 14-3 with home field advantage. BEVELL SUCKS.?

Sorry but you are pathetic Bevell haters.

Are you really going to say we are 14-3 because of our offense right now?

Just stop. The offense is not good right now. Saying otherwise is foolish.

Now that doesn't mean they cant come out on Sunday and put together a great game.. but as of late it's been ugly.


Actually there were a few games earlier were out offense was the reason we won, so yeah they have played their part to get us to 14-3
 

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kearly":dtqjco3v said:
There has never been an OC, no matter how brilliant, that his teams fans haven't exhausted themselves complaining about. That includes Bevell and every single person to ever call plays for the Seahawks. And every person that will call plays for the Seahawks in future seasons. You could program the world's greatest super-computer to call plays for our offense and you'd still have results-based hindsight criticism. It's inevitable.

That said, yeah... a change actually is needed at OC. And not even because of the playcalling (which was pretty bad in the Saints game). But because Bevell just sucks at adapting, and we have an offense with too many exploitable weaknesses to forgive an OC who adapts slowly. That doesn't mean Bevell is crap, but I do think it means he no longer fits our needs on offense.
I've always thought blaming the coordinators was lazy and merely allowed fans to ignore the shortcomings of their favorite players...until Bevell. He is just horrible.

With that said our receivers didn't uncover this entire game. They were blanketed by a fairly average secondary. Russell won't throw a 50/50 ball most of the time due to his interception phobia. These WRs need to get more separation.
 

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Thunderhawk":10gvg03q said:
kearly":10gvg03q said:
There has never been an OC, no matter how brilliant, that his teams fans haven't exhausted themselves complaining about. That includes Bevell and every single person to ever call plays for the Seahawks. And every person that will call plays for the Seahawks in future seasons. You could program the world's greatest super-computer to call plays for our offense and you'd still have results-based hindsight criticism. It's inevitable.

That said, yeah... a change actually is needed at OC. And not even because of the playcalling (which was pretty bad in the Saints game). But because Bevell just sucks at adapting, and we have an offense with too many exploitable weaknesses to forgive an OC who adapts slowly. That doesn't mean Bevell is crap, but I do think it means he no longer fits our needs on offense.
I've always thought blaming the coordinators was lazy and merely allowed fans to ignore the shortcomings of their favorite players...until Bevell. He is just horrible.

With that said our receivers didn't uncover this entire game. They were blanketed by a fairly average secondary. Russell won't throw a 50/50 ball most of the time due to his interception phobia. These WRs need to get more separation.

I fail to see how the #2 pass defense (by yards, #6 by DVOA) is a "fairly average secondary."
 

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edogg23":33y6jrn8 said:
How many read option runs up the middle can you run in one game? Seems like he could be done with the game plan in 10 minutes!

With that said... Wilson needs to step it up. He looks so uncomfortable in the pocket and rarely gets the ball out quick, which makes little sense since he has got to know this simple offense inside and out by now, as hard as he works. I don't get it.


you just answered the question, simple offense, if you think it is simple offense you do not think the other teams know it too. Between a questionable offensive line, WR not getting open, and his HC telling him not to take chances, you cans see why this is happening.
 

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Thunderhawk":1zcci72f said:
kearly":1zcci72f said:
There has never been an OC, no matter how brilliant, that his teams fans haven't exhausted themselves complaining about. That includes Bevell and every single person to ever call plays for the Seahawks. And every person that will call plays for the Seahawks in future seasons. You could program the world's greatest super-computer to call plays for our offense and you'd still have results-based hindsight criticism. It's inevitable.

That said, yeah... a change actually is needed at OC. And not even because of the playcalling (which was pretty bad in the Saints game). But because Bevell just sucks at adapting, and we have an offense with too many exploitable weaknesses to forgive an OC who adapts slowly. That doesn't mean Bevell is crap, but I do think it means he no longer fits our needs on offense.
I've always thought blaming the coordinators was lazy and merely allowed fans to ignore the shortcomings of their favorite players...until Bevell. He is just horrible.

With that said our receivers didn't uncover this entire game. They were blanketed by a fairly average secondary. Russell won't throw a 50/50 ball most of the time due to his interception phobia. These WRs need to get more separation.

Agreed but it is not Rw phobia it is PCs, he has said he wants mistake free offense.
 

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I would also like to point out that the Denver Broncos just put up 24 points against the #29 ranked pass defense (#31 by DVOA) with Peyton Manning putting up 230 yards, 2 TDs and 1 INT.

We faced a much better pass defense in a windy monsoon and put up 23 points.
 

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RolandDeschain":399f6rtp said:
Anthony!":399f6rtp said:
Actually there were a few games earlier were out offense was the reason we won, so yeah they have played their part to get us to 14-3
Such as? You could argue maybe the Bucs game, and that's it.

What exactly are your qualifications for winning with offense? Does scoring in the first three quarters not count somehow?
 

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MontanaHawk05":1hac1mp4 said:
RolandDeschain":1hac1mp4 said:
Anthony!":1hac1mp4 said:
Actually there were a few games earlier were out offense was the reason we won, so yeah they have played their part to get us to 14-3
Such as? You could argue maybe the Bucs game, and that's it.

What exactly are your qualifications for winning with offense? Does scoring in the first three quarters not count somehow?
I was actually just looking at games where our defense held the opposing offense to less than the league average for points allowed, and where our offense scored more than the league average. We actually have not one single game that meets that criteria in the 2013 season that we won except for the Bucs game. (23.4 points scored per game on offense and allowed on defense, per Pro Football Reference for the 2013 NFL season.)

The number of games we scored more than 23.4 points on offense and allowed more than 23.4 points on defense, thus necessitating a game won by the offense? One. The Bucs. 27-24 overtime win. The only other game our defense gave up more than 23.4 points on in the entire year was at Indy, and we lost that.

I'd love to see this magical list of games where our offense won it for us. I see one, and that was barely.
 

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My 13 year old sister who just started watching football this season was able to predict when the Seahawks ran a pass play... i didnt know what to do with that lol
 
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