Best take on the Russ vs Hawks situation

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https://theathletic.com/2409212/2021/02 ... -seahawks/

It is a pretty phenomenal piece that sheds a ton of light on a very complex situation that can't be resolved by assigning blame to one group.

The piece goes into detail about Russ's gripes with the o line and offense. It looks at the issue from both sides ( years where the o line was horrible and the criticism valid and years when there was significant investment and balances performance). And that part ofnthr issue is that Russ is 'seeing ghosts' from all the hits he's taken.

It illuminates speculation around Russ's desire to grow his brand outside of Seattle and specifically identifies NYC as a desired landing spot for Ciara and Russ.

It mentions that Russ's camp has given the hawks a shortlist of teams that he would like to go to.

It references opinions from former teammates and friends of Russ like Robert Turbin that validate the overall sense thatvRuss is tired of getting hit. That he's frustrated with the sacks.

But it also touches on the perspectives of some coaches in the league who believe that Russ is who he is... which is not in the same sphere as Rogers , Brady, Brees, and that his lashing out about the line and the conservative offense is a defense to save face a bit in light of being openly criticized really for the first time in his career for his inability at times to run the offense and get the ball out when the scheme is right and the protection solid. It references specifically the Giants game where Russ had open plays throughout the game and failed to execute. Prompting a quote from a league coach asking 'what the [email protected]#$ is wrong with Russel Wilson'.

It addresses Pete's lack of a healthy check on his own power since losing a few key coaches who he relied on to guve it to him straight relative to his views vs others. But it also highlights a desire on Pete's part to not be surrounded by 'Yes' men and to get new minds around the table that he can rely on for healthy criticism.

I personally think all of it is true and contributes to the overall mess we have in front of us.

Pete has suffered from too much power.

Russ has suffered from too little accountability

The line needs to be better

As to the offense? The article points out that between the let russ cook offense and the one in the 2nd half of the season, we only slipped 6 spots in terms of passing on early downs, which pushes back a bit on the notion that the O was handcuffed. We were the #1 O in those situations week 1-8 and the 7th best , 9- 16. The difference was the level of competition and the inability of our offense to execute. Not necessarily adapt, but execute. And THAT is the source of the divide.

Apparently the Hawks have looked at last year and the years prior and see Russel as someone different than the person he sees when he looks in the mirror. It cites the opinion of a league source as claiming that Russ's play here is to get out in front of the situation and paint it in his favor... that it's the offense, the coach and the OLine. That Russ's angle at this point is PR maneuvering to secure his brand.

It's really a great read. One I wish could be pinned here (but it's a pay site).
 

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keasley45":2c24t34c said:
Is here

https://theathletic.com/2409212/2021/02 ... -seahawks/

It is a pretty phenomenal piece that sheds a ton of light on a very complex situation that can't be resolved by assigning blame to one group.

The piece goes into detail about Russ's gripes with the o line and offense. It looks at the issue from both sides ( years where the o line was horrible and the criticism valid and years when there was significant investment and balances performance). And that part ofnthr issue is that Russ is 'seeing ghosts' from all the hits he's taken.

It illuminates speculation around Russ's desire to grow his brand outside of Seattle and specifically identifies NYC as a desired landing spot for Ciara and Russ.

It mentions that Russ's camp has given the hawks a shortlist of teams that he would like to go to.

It references opinions from former teammates and friends of Russ like Robert Turbin that validate the overall sense thatvRuss is tired of getting hit. That he's frustrated with the sacks.

But it also touches on the perspectives of some coaches in the league who believe that Russ is who he is... which is not in the same sphere as Rogers , Brady, Brees, and that his lashing out about the line and the conservative offense is a defense to save face a bit in light of being openly criticized really for the first time in his career for his inability at times to run the offense and get the ball out when the scheme is right and the protection solid. It references specifically the Giants game where Russ had open plays throughout the game and failed to execute. Prompting a quote from a league coach asking 'what the [email protected]#$ is wrong with Russel Wilson'.

It addresses Pete's lack of a healthy check on his own power since losing a few key coaches who he relied on to guve it to him straight relative to his views vs others. But it also highlights a desire on Pete's part to not be surrounded by 'Yes' men and to get new minds around the table that he can rely on for healthy criticism.

I personally think all of it is true and contributes to the overall mess we have in front of us.

Pete has suffered from too much power.

Russ has suffered from too little accountability

The line needs to be better

As to the offense? The article points out that between the let russ cook offense and the one in the 2nd half of the season, we only slipped 6 spots in terms of passing on early downs, which pushes back a bit on the notion that the O was handcuffed. We were the #1 O in those situations week 1-8 and the 7th best , 9- 16. The difference was the level of competition and the inability of our offense to execute. Not necessarily adapt, but execute. And THAT is the source of the divide.

Apparently the Hawks have looked at last year and the years prior and see Russel as someone different than the person he sees when he looks in the mirror. It cites the opinion of a league source as claiming that Russ's play here is to get out in front of the situation and paint it in his favor... that it's the offense, the coach and the OLine. That Russ's angle at this point is PR maneuvering to secure his brand.

It's really a great read. One I wish could be pinned here (but it's a pay site).

Only problem yet again all speculation with no credible sources at all, example all these supposed league people questioning Wilson and yet supposedly 2/3 of the league called to trade for him kind of makes no sense. just more Click bait.
 

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John63":nzpkwtju said:
keasley45":nzpkwtju said:
Is here

https://theathletic.com/2409212/2021/02 ... -seahawks/

It is a pretty phenomenal piece that sheds a ton of light on a very complex situation that can't be resolved by assigning blame to one group.

The piece goes into detail about Russ's gripes with the o line and offense. It looks at the issue from both sides ( years where the o line was horrible and the criticism valid and years when there was significant investment and balances performance). And that part ofnthr issue is that Russ is 'seeing ghosts' from all the hits he's taken.

It illuminates speculation around Russ's desire to grow his brand outside of Seattle and specifically identifies NYC as a desired landing spot for Ciara and Russ.

It mentions that Russ's camp has given the hawks a shortlist of teams that he would like to go to.

It references opinions from former teammates and friends of Russ like Robert Turbin that validate the overall sense thatvRuss is tired of getting hit. That he's frustrated with the sacks.

But it also touches on the perspectives of some coaches in the league who believe that Russ is who he is... which is not in the same sphere as Rogers , Brady, Brees, and that his lashing out about the line and the conservative offense is a defense to save face a bit in light of being openly criticized really for the first time in his career for his inability at times to run the offense and get the ball out when the scheme is right and the protection solid. It references specifically the Giants game where Russ had open plays throughout the game and failed to execute. Prompting a quote from a league coach asking 'what the [email protected]#$ is wrong with Russel Wilson'.

It addresses Pete's lack of a healthy check on his own power since losing a few key coaches who he relied on to guve it to him straight relative to his views vs others. But it also highlights a desire on Pete's part to not be surrounded by 'Yes' men and to get new minds around the table that he can rely on for healthy criticism.

I personally think all of it is true and contributes to the overall mess we have in front of us.

Pete has suffered from too much power.

Russ has suffered from too little accountability

The line needs to be better

As to the offense? The article points out that between the let russ cook offense and the one in the 2nd half of the season, we only slipped 6 spots in terms of passing on early downs, which pushes back a bit on the notion that the O was handcuffed. We were the #1 O in those situations week 1-8 and the 7th best , 9- 16. The difference was the level of competition and the inability of our offense to execute. Not necessarily adapt, but execute. And THAT is the source of the divide.

Apparently the Hawks have looked at last year and the years prior and see Russel as someone different than the person he sees when he looks in the mirror. It cites the opinion of a league source as claiming that Russ's play here is to get out in front of the situation and paint it in his favor... that it's the offense, the coach and the OLine. That Russ's angle at this point is PR maneuvering to secure his brand.

It's really a great read. One I wish could be pinned here (but it's a pay site).

Only problem yet again all speculation with no credible sources at all, example all these supposed league people questioning Wilson and yet supposedly 2/3 of the league called to trade for him kind of makes no sense. just more Click bait.


Everyone is jockeying a RW trade! The consistent activity by a multitude of players of all types demonstrates a trade is going to happen, unless Pete & Russ give the world the finger and announce they’re ending their careers together, get ready for a trade!
 

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John63":iimvw50x said:
keasley45":iimvw50x said:
Is here

https://theathletic.com/2409212/2021/02 ... -seahawks/

It is a pretty phenomenal piece that sheds a ton of light on a very complex situation that can't be resolved by assigning blame to one group.

The piece goes into detail about Russ's gripes with the o line and offense. It looks at the issue from both sides ( years where the o line was horrible and the criticism valid and years when there was significant investment and balances performance). And that part ofnthr issue is that Russ is 'seeing ghosts' from all the hits he's taken.

It illuminates speculation around Russ's desire to grow his brand outside of Seattle and specifically identifies NYC as a desired landing spot for Ciara and Russ.

It mentions that Russ's camp has given the hawks a shortlist of teams that he would like to go to.

It references opinions from former teammates and friends of Russ like Robert Turbin that validate the overall sense thatvRuss is tired of getting hit. That he's frustrated with the sacks.

But it also touches on the perspectives of some coaches in the league who believe that Russ is who he is... which is not in the same sphere as Rogers , Brady, Brees, and that his lashing out about the line and the conservative offense is a defense to save face a bit in light of being openly criticized really for the first time in his career for his inability at times to run the offense and get the ball out when the scheme is right and the protection solid. It references specifically the Giants game where Russ had open plays throughout the game and failed to execute. Prompting a quote from a league coach asking 'what the [email protected]#$ is wrong with Russel Wilson'.

It addresses Pete's lack of a healthy check on his own power since losing a few key coaches who he relied on to guve it to him straight relative to his views vs others. But it also highlights a desire on Pete's part to not be surrounded by 'Yes' men and to get new minds around the table that he can rely on for healthy criticism.

I personally think all of it is true and contributes to the overall mess we have in front of us.

Pete has suffered from too much power.

Russ has suffered from too little accountability

The line needs to be better

As to the offense? The article points out that between the let russ cook offense and the one in the 2nd half of the season, we only slipped 6 spots in terms of passing on early downs, which pushes back a bit on the notion that the O was handcuffed. We were the #1 O in those situations week 1-8 and the 7th best , 9- 16. The difference was the level of competition and the inability of our offense to execute. Not necessarily adapt, but execute. And THAT is the source of the divide.

Apparently the Hawks have looked at last year and the years prior and see Russel as someone different than the person he sees when he looks in the mirror. It cites the opinion of a league source as claiming that Russ's play here is to get out in front of the situation and paint it in his favor... that it's the offense, the coach and the OLine. That Russ's angle at this point is PR maneuvering to secure his brand.

It's really a great read. One I wish could be pinned here (but it's a pay site).

Only problem yet again all speculation with no credible sources at all, example all these supposed league people questioning Wilson and yet supposedly 2/3 of the league called to trade for him kind of makes no sense. just more Click bait.

1/3 of the league, not 2/3.
 

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WmHBonney":3dk9t63o said:
John63":3dk9t63o said:
keasley45":3dk9t63o said:
Is here

https://theathletic.com/2409212/2021/02 ... -seahawks/

It is a pretty phenomenal piece that sheds a ton of light on a very complex situation that can't be resolved by assigning blame to one group.

The piece goes into detail about Russ's gripes with the o line and offense. It looks at the issue from both sides ( years where the o line was horrible and the criticism valid and years when there was significant investment and balances performance). And that part ofnthr issue is that Russ is 'seeing ghosts' from all the hits he's taken.

It illuminates speculation around Russ's desire to grow his brand outside of Seattle and specifically identifies NYC as a desired landing spot for Ciara and Russ.

It mentions that Russ's camp has given the hawks a shortlist of teams that he would like to go to.

It references opinions from former teammates and friends of Russ like Robert Turbin that validate the overall sense thatvRuss is tired of getting hit. That he's frustrated with the sacks.

But it also touches on the perspectives of some coaches in the league who believe that Russ is who he is... which is not in the same sphere as Rogers , Brady, Brees, and that his lashing out about the line and the conservative offense is a defense to save face a bit in light of being openly criticized really for the first time in his career for his inability at times to run the offense and get the ball out when the scheme is right and the protection solid. It references specifically the Giants game where Russ had open plays throughout the game and failed to execute. Prompting a quote from a league coach asking 'what the [email protected]#$ is wrong with Russel Wilson'.

It addresses Pete's lack of a healthy check on his own power since losing a few key coaches who he relied on to guve it to him straight relative to his views vs others. But it also highlights a desire on Pete's part to not be surrounded by 'Yes' men and to get new minds around the table that he can rely on for healthy criticism.

I personally think all of it is true and contributes to the overall mess we have in front of us.

Pete has suffered from too much power.

Russ has suffered from too little accountability

The line needs to be better

As to the offense? The article points out that between the let russ cook offense and the one in the 2nd half of the season, we only slipped 6 spots in terms of passing on early downs, which pushes back a bit on the notion that the O was handcuffed. We were the #1 O in those situations week 1-8 and the 7th best , 9- 16. The difference was the level of competition and the inability of our offense to execute. Not necessarily adapt, but execute. And THAT is the source of the divide.

Apparently the Hawks have looked at last year and the years prior and see Russel as someone different than the person he sees when he looks in the mirror. It cites the opinion of a league source as claiming that Russ's play here is to get out in front of the situation and paint it in his favor... that it's the offense, the coach and the OLine. That Russ's angle at this point is PR maneuvering to secure his brand.

It's really a great read. One I wish could be pinned here (but it's a pay site).

Only problem yet again all speculation with no credible sources at all, example all these supposed league people questioning Wilson and yet supposedly 2/3 of the league called to trade for him kind of makes no sense. just more Click bait.

1/3 of the league, not 2/3.

I read an article that said 2/3
 
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