Been watching the coaches view on Atlanta

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Watching the coaches tape at NFL.com, there is plenty to be excited about, and plenty to worry about. (what an awesome tool for dorks!)
First I watched some of the 2011 tilt in week four. I ignored our offense, they have a new DC and we have a new QB. Now, lots has changed, for instance we were starting Tru at corner. Earl Thomas was pretty much stuck making sure Tru didn't get beat over the top, and Tru's inside leverage was so apparent that it made sideline outs to his side easy. But there are some correlations. First, Atlanta got off to a good start running the ball, and turned our defensive uncertainty into 24 first half points. Certainly they would like to do the same in this game. Curry was the usual Curry, and was soon to be gone, Lewis was on the field way too much, and KJ was just beginning to see the field.

But there are some things to note. They picked on Trufant in the extreme. He will likely play the slot, so look for them to try and exploit his too deep drops. And when I say picked on Tru, it was painful to watch. Tru was so clearly outmatched by White it was silly.

Second, they targeted Browner on Jones deep several times, a trend I would expect to continue. Look for it to start the game, and maybe early in the 2nd half. I know, last year, but that offense is not greatly changed. They still try to use lots of pre snap movement to disgiuse even simple plays. On one unsuccessful play this year they used a line shift and four! player motions to disguise a simple HB plunge. They like to show unbalanced lines then run to the weak side, things like that. they aren't as clever as the Niners at disguising their big sets that are really pass plays, but they are good at it.

Now, some overall trends this year. Starting with their D.

They have fast linebackers and they trust them to cover underneath. They can man cover our tight ends for the most part. For the Falcons, this presents a problem on the plays they want to spy Wilson. They also play a good 2 deep scheme, and invite you to attack the seams very deceptively. The three picks of Peyton Manning were all as he attacked the strength of that secondary about 20 yards down field with in breaking seam routes, trying to exploit the zone behind the linebackers. Later he adjusted and began to attack with more success on short and deep outs and some underneath sticks routes. ALL of their corners and safeties do a good job of keeping the receivers in front of them, and they get some good hits because of it. They clearly like to let the secondary watch the QB.

They are not all that deceptive with their blitzes. Atlanta does attack some of the more prolific passers with some standup amoeba look defense, but not a power run attack like ours. They have had some plays where they spied Newton with two linebackers.

They have about equal amounts success and failure stopping the pistol look from the Panthers. The Panthers do some things we don't with a 3 back set, but the option run game will have some success, and the option pass looks very attractive.

I think Robinson will have some success blocking up the middle. Our option set should hold the linebackers a bit, giving him the opportunity to lead in the gaps nicely.

Asante Samuels is a gambler. I will not be stunned if he sets up Wilson for a pick, nor will I be surprised if a double move works on Samuels.

The middle of that D-line is not stellar. Their D-ends like to get up the field, even against mobile QBs like Newton, and that creates escape lanes. There should be chances for Wilson to both escape and climb the pocket. I would like to see Seattle create a couple of plays designed just so Wilson can pass from a Witherspoon having to spy him look. Freezing Witherspoon can only help us. I expect a number of bootlegs just for this.

On offense, they are dangerous, as we all know. Early in the year they had some bad gameplans and were a bit greedy attacking the Raiders and Cardinals down the field, and Ryan paid with interceptions. Despite those bad games, Ryan is no joke of a QB. Against the Giants, easily the Falcons most complete game, they were a patient offense. They respected the Giants 4 man rush and didn't do as much 7 step dropping or slow developing stuff. Seattle has been vulnerable to that, especially when concentrating on taking away deep threats (ahem, Detroit) and if that is how the Falcons start the game, I will not be surprised. Rodgers on Hill or Wright is a bad matchup for us, as is Gonzalez on either of those two. They also like to run crossing routes, which has exposed Hill on occasion.

Their running game has improved as the season has gone on, but for much of the season they have been quick to give up on it. They only average 3.7 yards, and the middle of the O-line is not very good. It is pretty easy to get the run game moving sideways. They line up in some heavy sets, but a lot of that is have two tight ends on the field. I expect them to give setting up that run game a good go, but they are only trying to keep the defense honest. It's all about Matt Ryan's arm. Inside the 5, they use the power game a bit, but still, stuff it once and they are unlikely to try again. Get a lead on them, and the run game turns into a pretense.

Sherm can get into Roddy White's head. Roddy will try to get physical with him for sure. Jones isn't as much like that, but he does love to bend a ref's ear. I expect Browner to get flagged some, as he probably should.

We can get pressure. Matt Ryan does not do well on the move, and he makes his biggest mistakes under pressure. His line is biased towards pass blocking, but they do tend to run some real wide linemen sets in obvious pass spots. Ryan responds to pressure in his face with quick decisions, some good, most not. The Cardinals got him in the A and B gap a lot, and he was shaky because of it.

I will not be surprised if both teams score near 30. Seattle presents problems for 2 deep defenses, and Atlanta presents problems for every defense. Matt Ryan is pretty damn cool in the 2 and 4 minute offense, as is Russell. This game could come down to the last team to have the ball.

On special teams, we have an advantage, but if Haushka is injured, that advantage may be gone.
 

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I also expect both teams to be near 30 points. I just don't see the Hawks getting enough pressure on Ryan to make him screw up as much as we'd like to see happen. Would love to be wrong and if I am, I see the Hawks winning going away.

Well, that and our team needs to NOT allow scoring opportunities to get away. I think now that Russ has gotten his first playoff game jitters out of the way, he will settle down and that won't happen this time around.
 

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From a Falcon fan, great post scottemojo. The A gap scares me the most. But I am expecting to see lots of screens and three step drops. I also would not be surprised to see more than a few runs directed at Irvin.

As for the Seahawks, I am expecting them to run, run, and run some more. Then look for big plays once the defense creeps up.

All of the fans will be in for a great game regardless.
 

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good stuff, whole lotta of stuff i didn't want to hear in there.. Trufant, Ugggghhhh :180670:
 
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FOGHORN":10dgxzqh said:
From a Falcon fan, great post scottemojo. The A gap scares me the most. But I am expecting to see lots of screens and three step drops. I also would not be surprised to see more than a few runs directed at Irvin.

As for the Seahawks, I am expecting them to run, run, and run some more. Then look for big plays once the defense creeps up.

All of the fans will be in for a great game regardless.
For the most part, screens don't work that well against us. You will see a lot of press on Roddy and Jones with a single safety over the top. And on obvious pass downs, a lot of 3 deep, which is another reason the screen is not the best idea. If you are going to screen, don't have the RB fake the block first. Our D-line just grabs them when they try to block. Really has been a strength.

Our defense is really quite simple. We want to make Ryan be accurate over the top of our long corners on the sidelines, and Seattle intends to keep your offense in front of us and in particular expose your tight ends and receivers to some rib cracking. Which is why Atlanta should really go at Trufant. And definitely should run at Irvin, in fact I expect to see that a couple of times in the first 10 plays or so.

We also have not blitzed much, but the loss of Clemons combined with the footage I saw says we should. Seattle will send safeties and linebacker up the middle in this one quite a bit, I suspect.

On offense, Seattle can be extreme in their run bias. Even running on 3rd and 5 or 6. Don't be surprised by that. You have a fast secondary and a couple of fast linebackers, but I think they lack some physicality so I expect a steady diet of Robinson, Turbin and Lynch to go their way. We want them all softened up by the 4th quarter. That is how we beat Chicago.
 

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Way to come through in the clutch Scotte. Thanks for putting the time in on this, it's awesome.

Gonzalez scares me. Gonna be interesting to see what the staff puts together for this one. Like you said, Atlanta's going to move guys like Jones and White around to try and exploit favorable matchups. I wouldn't be surprised to see a little bit more of Jeron Johnson and Malcolm Smith in this one, and less of Leroy. I could see Kam and Smith bracketing Gonzalez, although this puts added emphasis on the jobs of the DB's around the field. I'm confident with Sherm on White, less so with Browner on Jones. I'd almost prefer we try and get Sherman on Jones a little more but you know we just line up Sherm on the left and BB on the right. The issue will probably end up being, can the Seahawks contain the slot? I wouldn't be surprised if Tru, Lane, and Maxwell all saw reps in this one in the nickel.
 

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I agree that we can punch them in the mouth. They're a fast defense, but not all that physical. Sounds like a steady run diet, with some zone read option will get them keyed to run, then play action and zone read pass (which Wilson excels at both) will beat them over the top.

Arizona is famous for it's A gap pressure, and against Atlanta, it's really evident how well it worked. I have to wonder, if they are that soft up the middle, if Mebane and Branch/McDonald might get some pressure up the middle. Even move Bryant in, as he's tall and can get a hand up.

I like the matchup of our offense on their defense, much more than I like our defense on their offense this game. If we had Clemons, I'd like it a lot, or call it even, but now.....not so sure. Irvin could blow up the left side and really change the game, or he could cost us a lot. I see Gonzalez tearing up our LBers; they've been poor in underneath coverage all year. I hope to god we don't start Trufant this game.
 
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Hawks46":545aebsk said:
I agree that we can punch them in the mouth. They're a fast defense, but not all that physical. Sounds like a steady run diet, with some zone read option will get them keyed to run, then play action and zone read pass (which Wilson excels at both) will beat them over the top.

Arizona is famous for it's A gap pressure, and against Atlanta, it's really evident how well it worked. I have to wonder, if they are that soft up the middle, if Mebane and Branch/McDonald might get some pressure up the middle. Even move Bryant in, as he's tall and can get a hand up.

I like the matchup of our offense on their defense, much more than I like our defense on their offense this game. If we had Clemons, I'd like it a lot, or call it even, but now.....not so sure. Irvin could blow up the left side and really change the game, or he could cost us a lot. I see Gonzalez tearing up our LBers; they've been poor in underneath coverage all year. I hope to god we don't start Trufant this game.
Mebane and Branch have to stay in front of Ryan, if only to get hands up and change his arm angles. When unobstructed, Ryan almost never misses unless he is on the run. Ryan hit a lot of looks up the right seam, which works well for us because Red can obstruct from in front of him and Sherman is there (we are #1 in the league against the other team's number one)
 

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Wait a minute, I thought non mobile QB's were suppose to be on IR by week three? Sarcasm off!! Sorry couldn't help myself.

I think the key's to victory in this game for the Seahawks is going to be doing what we do best. Smash mouth football that gets into the heads of the opponent. This is yet another team that can be shaken but it will also require that we are productive on offense. I don't see us holding them to 15.3 points so we will have to be efficient and aggressive. If we can keep pace with them or even have a lead in the later quarters, I like our chances of getting them out of rhythm.

I hate the long travel compounded by the 10:00 AM start. It blows me away that a league that believes it is difficult for east coast teams to travel west to the point they change the rules forcing west coast teams to travel even more than they already do (which is normally about three or more times as far in a season as any east coast team) so east coast teams don't have to, yet the thought of a west coast team traveling east seems to be totally acceptable and even asking those teams to play three hours earlier than normal after traveling just doesn't register with the NFL. How in the hell did they justify this?

Anyway rant over, hopefully the bye week will provide a small amount of rust for the Falcons while we are still shaking out the cob webs from travel and an early start.
 
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RichNhansom":1lvsmlz7 said:
Wait a minute, I thought non mobile QB's were suppose to be on IR by week three? Sarcasm off!! Sorry couldn't help myself.

I think the key's to victory in this game for the Seahawks is going to be doing what we do best. Smash mouth football that gets into the heads of the opponent. This is yet another team that can be shaken but it will also require that we are productive on offense. I don't see us holding them to 15.3 points so we will have to be efficient and aggressive. If we can keep pace with them or even have a lead in the later quarters, I like our chances of getting them out of rhythm.

I hate the long travel compounded by the 10:00 AM start. It blows me away that a league that believes it is difficult for east coast teams to travel west to the point they change the rules forcing west coast teams to travel even more than they already do (which is normally about three or more times as far in a season as any east coast team) so east coast teams don't have to, yet the thought of a west coast team traveling east seems to be totally acceptable and even asking those teams to play three hours earlier than normal after traveling just doesn't register with the NFL. How in the hell did they justify this?

Anyway rant over, hopefully the bye week will provide a small amount of rust for the Falcons while we are still shaking out the cob webs from travel and an early start.

Matt Ryan is plenty mobile. He just doesn't throw well unless he sets. But he will drop a ten yard scramble on a defense every now and then.
 

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I agree. Very good, well thought out post. Thanks for sharing the insight!
 

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Great job! Can you do one of these for every game? Please? Thanks.
 

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When I see folks saying, "I expect Atlanta to score near 30" it makes me shake my head. Why would you expect them to score above their season average against the #1 scoring defense in the NFL? Not only the #1 scoring defense, but one whose strength matches theirs. Now, football games are just weighted random number generators, so anything's possible, but there's nothing predictive that suggests that is a likely outcome.

People seem to take our biggest flaw, say Trufant in the slot, and then imagine Atlanta can simply drive down the field all game long with passes at Trufant. That's not actually how it works. If the slot is hurting us too much, we'll adjust. Just like, at the beginning of the game against Washington, some folks probably imagined Washington was simply going to hand off for 8 yard gains for the rest of the game and score 50. Quite apart from RG3 getting hurt, what you saw was adjustments made. Whatever Atlanta comes out with, they aren't going to simply pick on one or two flaws on their way to an easy blowout. That's just not how it works.

Very little from Atlanta's season suggests they're some unstoppable force. They are NOT like the 2005 Seahawks. Those Seahawks had an easy schedule, yes, but they exploited that easy schedule into tons of blowouts and the #1 point differential in the NFL facts which are highly correlated with future wins. Atlanta, OTOH, played virtually no top defenses. And nothing from Seattle's defensive play this year suggests that any team can exploit flaws to the tune of easy TDs all game long.

Atlanta has a pretty good chance to win because they are a good team. They wouldn't be the #1 seed if they didn't. Pair with luck and anything can happen. But, Seattle is the better team. Atlanta has more flaws that are harder to cover up with scheming. Seattle might lose, but they probably won't.
 
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formido":2sp6lpt5 said:
When I see folks saying, "I expect Atlanta to score near 30" it makes me shake my head. Why would you expect them to score above their season average against the #1 scoring defense in the NFL? Not only the #1 scoring defense, but one whose strength matches theirs. Now, football games are just weighted random number generators, so anything's possible, but there's nothing predictive that suggests that is a likely outcome.

People seem to take our biggest flaw, say Trufant in the slot, and then imagine Atlanta can simply drive down the field all game long with passes at Trufant. That's not actually how it works. If the slot is hurting us too much, we'll adjust. Just like, at the beginning of the game against Washington, some folks probably imagined Washington was simply going to hand off for 8 yard gains for the rest of the game and score 50. Quite apart from RG3 getting hurt, what you saw was adjustments made. Whatever Atlanta comes out with, they aren't going to simply pick on one or two flaws on their way to an easy blowout. That's just not how it works.

Very little from Atlanta's season suggests they're some unstoppable force. They are NOT like the 2005 Seahawks. Those Seahawks had an easy schedule, yes, but they exploited that easy schedule into tons of blowouts and the #1 point differential in the NFL facts which are highly correlated with future wins. Atlanta, OTOH, played virtually no top defenses. And nothing from Seattle's defensive play this year suggests that any team can exploit flaws to the tune of easy TDs all game long.

Atlanta has a pretty good chance to win because they are a good team. They wouldn't be the #1 seed if they didn't. Pair with luck and anything can happen. But, Seattle is the better team. Atlanta has more flaws that are harder to cover up with scheming. Seattle might lose, but they probably won't.
Because Atlanta has an offense similar in lots of ways to Detroit, who had little trouble passing on us. Am I being alarmist? Probably. I certainly hope Seattle's physicality leads to turnovers and a much lower score. But the simple fact is that Stafford was patient and took what Seattle gave, and that led to 28 points (a score near 30, or am I mistaken?)

Besides, take my predictions of score with a grain of salt, but everything else I stand behind as confirmed by footage.
 
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