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ChiefHawk
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A Loss.
They do not count "not losses", they count Wins.
Each team has 16 chances to get as many Ws as possible. We lost an opportunity for a W.
So, when we get to the end of the year, we will functionally be competing against teams which played 16 games with only 15 games.
Therefore, we are hoping everybody now loses one more game to come down to our level, where our "Not-Loss" will matter.
At least everyone else in our division either lost or "not-lost" as well.
We did not lose position in the division, but this probably will hurt us in playoff seeding unless the other division leaders have one more loss than us.
Let's say Atlanta wins their division with an 11-5 record. If we have a 10-5-1, our tiebreaker win over them does not matter, because Atlanta has more wins. Even though we both have the same number of losses.
Due to the tie, as of now (and yes, it is early), we are on the outside looking in at the running for a bye in week one of the playoffs.
They do not count "not losses", they count Wins.
Each team has 16 chances to get as many Ws as possible. We lost an opportunity for a W.
So, when we get to the end of the year, we will functionally be competing against teams which played 16 games with only 15 games.
Therefore, we are hoping everybody now loses one more game to come down to our level, where our "Not-Loss" will matter.
At least everyone else in our division either lost or "not-lost" as well.
We did not lose position in the division, but this probably will hurt us in playoff seeding unless the other division leaders have one more loss than us.
Let's say Atlanta wins their division with an 11-5 record. If we have a 10-5-1, our tiebreaker win over them does not matter, because Atlanta has more wins. Even though we both have the same number of losses.
Due to the tie, as of now (and yes, it is early), we are on the outside looking in at the running for a bye in week one of the playoffs.
A tie is also half a win and that DOES matter. If Seattle gets 12 wins, they will automatically win the tiebreak over any other team with 12 wins because the NFL will count it as 12.5 wins. Also I wouldn't cry too hard about being a half-game out of the top spot in the NFC. I'd be more worried about the o-line and not the tie.
Sure a tie isn't as good as a win, but in our particular care is is very nearly as good and a damned sight better than the loss we probably should have had.
Sure a tie isn't as good as a win, but in our particular care is is very nearly as good and a damned sight better than the loss we probably should have had.
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as stated it's great in any situation where we end up with the same amount of standard "wins" as anyone we need to beat out.
It makes the game on christmas eve against arizona that much more important because there's no way to split...winner take all.
It's better than a loss but not nearly as good as a win because as stated above you've basically removed the chance for a W.
But 4-1-1 is way better than 4-2, because losing would have also removed the chance of a W.
instead of 4-1-1 look at it like 4.5-1.5. Both have a .750 winning percentage vs. a 4-2 team that is .667.
It makes the game on christmas eve against arizona that much more important because there's no way to split...winner take all.
It's better than a loss but not nearly as good as a win because as stated above you've basically removed the chance for a W.
But 4-1-1 is way better than 4-2, because losing would have also removed the chance of a W.
instead of 4-1-1 look at it like 4.5-1.5. Both have a .750 winning percentage vs. a 4-2 team that is .667.
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To me there are two different ways to look at a tie in a game like this one. From the Cardinals perspective, it's like a loss, because they outplayed us and honestly, should have one many times over. Being already behind, they needed the win a lot more than we did, so this one stings for them.
Looking at it from a Seahawks perspective, we lost no ground on any team in our division and gained a little ground on the Rams and Niners. Winning the division is first and foremost and this tie helps that cause. As far as NFC seeding goes, it makes the likelihood of a tiebreaker very unlikely, because to have an actual tie, the team we are matched with would have to also have a tie this year and ties just aren't that common in the NFL, so if you look at the standings right now, the same two teams (Cowboys and Vikings) are ahead of us, but they play each other on December 1. Assuming they don't tie, that means one will lose. That team will have one more loss than us (assuming we get back to our wining ways). This means that as of right now, we basically control our own destiny as far as getting a first round bye goes. Even though we are technically in third place in the NFC, if we continue to win, we'll be in 2nd after December 1.
Looking at it from a Seahawks perspective, we lost no ground on any team in our division and gained a little ground on the Rams and Niners. Winning the division is first and foremost and this tie helps that cause. As far as NFC seeding goes, it makes the likelihood of a tiebreaker very unlikely, because to have an actual tie, the team we are matched with would have to also have a tie this year and ties just aren't that common in the NFL, so if you look at the standings right now, the same two teams (Cowboys and Vikings) are ahead of us, but they play each other on December 1. Assuming they don't tie, that means one will lose. That team will have one more loss than us (assuming we get back to our wining ways). This means that as of right now, we basically control our own destiny as far as getting a first round bye goes. Even though we are technically in third place in the NFC, if we continue to win, we'll be in 2nd after December 1.
