25 QBs have been signed in the NFL

[RiverDog]

IMO Russell was never willing and/or able to change his quarterbacking style to compensate for his diminishing physical skills. His lack of height, compensated for early in his career by his mobility and ability to extend plays, now became a liability as it caused reluctance to throw passes across the short to medium range passes between the hash marks. At the same time, he fell in love with the deep ball. After all, he threw one of the most beautiful long, rainbow moon balls in the league. The combination of those factors caused him to hold onto the ball longer, putting is OL under stress, forcing receivers to reverse or alter their routes, etc.

I'm not sure what kind of mentor or backup QB he'd make. Some people, Peyton Manning being one who comes to mind, are not good mentors. If I had to guess, I'd say that he's not cut out to be one. I'd be surprised if a team brought him in as a backup/mentor.

 

[Seahawker]

Russell Wilson was an enigma wrapped in a paradox that streaked like a comet and crashed into a huge, shocking fireball surrounded by black smoke.
It's like he was one hand off from being a first ballot HOFer and that one play thrust Mr. Unlimited into being sandwich salesman with his food cart wrecked alongside the road.

Just painful to watch, but I think his early career was so dynamic & record setting out of the gate he deserves a place to be admired in NFL history.
353 TD's vs 114 INT's and 5568 rushing yards & 31 Rush TD's is elite. For a time he was magic and he made Seahawk dreams come true.

Like someone said, Russell Wilson directly contributed to us winning two Super Bowls in different ways rarely ever seen in NFL history.
I think "Go Hawks" is the best way to remember RW3 and the only way for him to ride off into the sunset. Thanks Russ.

 

[RiverDog]

Russell Wilson was an enigma wrapped in a paradox that streaked like a comet and crashed into a huge, shocking fireball surrounded by black smoke.
It's like he was one hand off from being a first ballot HOFer and that one play thrust Mr. Unlimited into being sandwich salesman with his food cart wrecked alongside the road.

Just painful to watch, but I think his early career was so dynamic & record setting out of the gate he deserves a place to be admired in NFL history.
353 TD's vs 114 INT's and 5568 rushing yards & 31 Rush TD's is elite. For a time he was magic and he made Seahawk dreams come true.

Like someone said, Russell Wilson directly contributed to us winning two Super Bowls in different ways rarely ever seen in NFL history.
I think "Go Hawks" is the best way to remember RW3 and the only way for him to ride off into the sunset. Thanks Russ.

He definitely belongs in our ROH. After all, he's arguably the best QB in franchise history and led us to two SB's, winning one.

And I'll join you in thanking him for his contributions to what is the best period of Seahawk football in franchise history. If I'm in the stadium during his ROH induction ceremony, I won't holler and scream my appreciation as there's still a part of me that won't forgive him for the way he left. But I won't boo him, either. I'll politely applaud, like one might for a sympathy orchestra conductor.

 

[Palmegranite]

I'll politely applaud, like one might for a sympathy orchestra conductor.

Man, those are the saddest conductors of all.

I think the HOF voters generally give QBs a mulligan in their twilight, pre-retirement stints.
Brett Favre with the Jets and Matt Ryan with the Colts come to mind.

 

[RiverDog]

Man, those are the saddest conductors of all.

I think the HOF voters generally give QBs a mulligan in their twilight, pre-retirement stints.
Brett Favre with the Jets and Matt Ryan with the Colts come to mind.

Ryan and Favre had MVP's, something that Russell never earned. What's more, even in his best years, Russell never received a single vote for league MVP. There's a panel of 50 some voters and he can't get a vote from any of them?

Love him or hate him, one has to look at his HOF chances realistically, and I just don't see it as being in the cards.

 

[Palmegranite]

Ryan and Favre had MVP's, something that Russell never earned. What's more, even in his best years, Russell never received a single vote for league MVP. There's a panel of 50 some voters and he can't get a vote from any of them?

Love him or hate him, one has to look at his HOF chances realistically, and I just don't see it as being in the cards.

You're nitpicking.
Let me just paste this here:
Troy Aikman: 3-time Super Bowl champion who never received an MVP vote.

Modern Era Eligible QBs Without MVP:

Drew Brees: Despite immense success and a Super Bowl title, Brees never secured an MVP award.
Ben Roethlisberger: Two-time Super Bowl winner who never won MVP.
Eli Manning: Two-time Super Bowl MVP, though never league MVP.

 

[Sperrydogg]

IMO Russell was never willing and/or able to change his quarterbacking style to compensate for his diminishing physical skills. His lack of height, compensated for early in his career by his mobility and ability to extend plays, now became a liability as it caused reluctance to throw passes across the short to medium range passes between the hash marks. At the same time, he fell in love with the deep ball. After all, he threw one of the most beautiful long, rainbow moon balls in the league. The combination of those factors caused him to hold onto the ball longer, putting is OL under stress, forcing receivers to reverse or alter their routes, etc.

I'm not sure what kind of mentor or backup QB he'd make. Some people, Peyton Manning being one who comes to mind, are not good mentors. If I had to guess, I'd say that he's not cut out to be one. I'd be surprised if a team brought him in as a backup/mentor.

I believe he could be a good mentor if, and only if, it’s his idea

I feel like he has a lot to offer about tuning out criticism and grinding through adversity. Let’s Ride!

 

[Ostatehawk]

Russell Wilson was an enigma wrapped in a paradox that streaked like a comet and crashed into a huge, shocking fireball surrounded by black smoke.
It's like he was one hand off from being a first ballot HOFer and that one play thrust Mr. Unlimited into being sandwich salesman with his food cart wrecked alongside the road.

Just painful to watch, but I think his early career was so dynamic & record setting out of the gate he deserves a place to be admired in NFL history.
353 TD's vs 114 INT's and 5568 rushing yards & 31 Rush TD's is elite. For a time he was magic and he made Seahawk dreams come true.

Like someone said, Russell Wilson directly contributed to us winning two Super Bowls in different ways rarely ever seen in NFL history.
I think "Go Hawks" is the best way to remember RW3 and the only way for him to ride off into the sunset. Thanks Russ.

You had me at 'Sandwich Salesman".

 

[RiverDog]

You're nitpicking.
Let me just paste this here:
Troy Aikman: 3-time Super Bowl champion who never received an MVP vote.

Modern Era Eligible QBs Without MVP:

Drew Brees: Despite immense success and a Super Bowl title, Brees never secured an MVP award.
Ben Roethlisberger: Two-time Super Bowl winner who never won MVP.
Eli Manning: Two-time Super Bowl MVP, though never league MVP.

Nit picking? I beg your pardon. I never said that a league MVP was a prerequisite for a QB's induction to the HOF. I was simply stating a fact. Russell has never been considered the best at his position and not ever getting a single vote for league MVP illustrates that fact. At his best, he was a 2nd tier QB, always at least 2-3 QBs generally regarded as better than he was, guys like Brady, Brees, and Rodgers.

So long as you threw out some other QB's names 2 HOF'ers and 2 HOF wannabes, let's take a look at them. Troy Aikman played in a different era, but as you stated, he has 3 rings and a SB MVP. He also was the QB on what was arguably the best football team in the 90's, winning 3 Lombardi's in 4 years.

Drew Brees didn't play for very many championship teams, but he had other statistical qualifications that got him into the HOF. Brees is ranked 2nd on the all-time passing yardage list behind Brady.

Eli Manning is not yet in the HOF, and his resume is a bit shaky. In fact, he didn't make the cut in his first year of eligibility. He wouldn't even be in consideration had it not been for those two SB MVP's. Unlike Russell, Manning ranked in the top 10 in passing yards when he retired.

Worthlessburger is not in the HOF, at least not yet, and as you stated, he has 2 SB MVP's and when he retired, ranked 5th on the all-time passing yardage list. Since he was a Steeler, he probably gets in.

Contrast those 4 QB's performances with Russell's resume: 1 ring, no league or SB MVP's, ranks 16th on the all-time passing yardage list. Plus, you have to take into consideration the crash and burn at the end of Russell's career. None of the 4 QB's you mentioned had anything close to that kind of an ending to their careers. IMO Russell doesn't measure up.

 

[RiverDog]

I believe he could be a good mentor if, and only if, it’s his idea

I feel like he has a lot to offer about tuning out criticism and grinding through adversity. Let’s Ride!

Hard to say. Success at the position as a player doesn't always translate into success as a coach/mentor. Some of the best quarterback coaches weren't worth a crap as a player and vise versa.