2021 Draft RD 2 PK 56 WR D'wayne Eskridge, W Michigan

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pittpnthrs":387rg8dn said:
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Schneider confirmed in presser they had a trade back set up that fell through a few minutes before the pick. Stuck and took the BPA on their board, Eskridge.

Says Eskridge is versatile. Don't have a specific plan for him, they're gonna work him in to wherever works.

So they took the highest rated player on the board because they had no plan if the trade down didnt happen and they have no plan for the player they picked. Just brilliant. Seriously, this FO reminds me of a deer looking at headlights,,,,,,lost.

You're off the rails. What would you like for the plan to be if a trade down falls through? Take the lowest rated player on their board? Not make a pick at all? What the hell?

I can understand not liking the pick because you valued an offensive lineman more. I did for the most part too. But this gripe is just stupidity.
 

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Remember when the seahawks got owned in the last 6 weeks of the season?

How many yards did DK Metcalf get in the beginning of the season versus the last parts?

Bullrush the offensive line and Russell is gonna eat shit
 

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I really wanted Rondale Moore but I’m a Purdue homer. This guy seems cut from the same mold.


So inexplicably I’ve had my on Moore since the Ohio state upset, convinced he will have a decent nfl career if he landed in the right spot. I believe he was the guy for the hawks and eskridge was basically a 1B kind of choice. I think the hawks were actively seeking a trade down and couldn’t get their terms and just pulled the trigger.

Of course moore goes to the cards. :|
 

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Geologic":3hwdttbm said:
Remember when the seahawks got owned in the last 6 weeks of the season?

How many yards did DK Metcalf get in the beginning of the season versus the last parts?

Bullrush the offensive line and Russell is gonna eat $h!t


And the million dollar question: at what point is that due to scheme, play calling offensive rhythm and personnel other than OL?

Jackson addition and a healthy Shell should help a lot. Lewis will continue to get better. Maybe they have other plans at center?
 

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Maelstrom787":h5gonxo7 said:
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Aros":h5gonxo7 said:
LOVE this pick. If Rob Rang loves this pick, I love this pick. His film looks spectacular. I love Hugh Millen's comments earlier today..."His legs look like a sewing machine." We finally found a #3 that will feel more like a #1 or #2. Antonio Brown 2.0. LOVE.

Just as a heads up, he's more Harvin than Antonio Brown skillset wise.

He even looks like Harvin on tape in regards to physique. Similar gait, similar body composition.

They both have that straight-line speed, but I think Harvin is shiftier and more fluid. Eskridge seems sturdier with a more physical stature. If Eskridge can bring to the table what Harvin brought, minus the baggage, this will be a pretty good pick. I just don't know how much WR3 will be used in this offense, but he seems like he would complement DK and Lockett well.
 

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I have been really dissapointed with Seahawks first picks over the years but I really like this one!
He should be a real threat with how far off these teams have been playing Metcalf and Lockette. Makes a lot of sense to me.
Three legit weapons will stress the defenses a lot. This guy is perfect for quick hitting plays and YAC.

I did hear a lot of buzz about him leading up to the draft as well. A lot of talent evaluators really liked him.
 

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I'm hoping this is a Waldon pick and indicates a switch to a more dynamic passing game. On the other hand, given our draft history it wouldn't surprise me to see them use a 2nd rounder on a guy that will purposely catch 1-2 passes a game.
 

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Momofantv":3s9zrbsr said:
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Strengths
Averaged 21.8 yards per catch over his last 74 catches.
High school sprint and long-jump champion.
Scored touchdowns of 72, 76 and 85 yards in 2020.
Scary burst for quick vertical separation if punch is whiffed.
Rapid foot turnover through the route.
Maintains good tempo through the route.
Able to plant and cut at fairly crisp angles.
Timing getting to full extension to make high-point catch.
Big time catch-and-run talent with instant burst to hit the home run.
Ability to stretch defense from the slot.
Averaged 27.5 yards per return with a touchdown as kick returner in 2020.

Weaknesses
Ran a very simple route tree.
Bumped off track inside five yards.
Hip tightness prevents quick sink-and-open.
Average acceleration in restart once he slows his feet.
Geared down route speed telegraphs underneath route.
Needs to sell deeper, more committed route fakes.
Ball tracking and ball skills miss the mark.
Drop rate and catch focus has been an issue for him.
Unable to catch through crowding consistently enough.

He will need to learn some things, his competition level as well as limited games last year hindered a big part of a learning curve I would expect, but he has tools that can be worked on, he has a pretty good mentor in Lockett to help as well as Ursua on the practice squad.


Worst 2nd round pick ever, dude isn’t good enough to start 4th round talent


Never heard of Owen Gill, huh?! :roll:
 

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This was a good pick and with only 3 picks in the draft, it made this pick more valuable. This guy is fast but also quick. He seems to get separation quickly. Everyone harps on RW holding on to the ball, well may be he's doing that because his WRs are struggling to separate themselves in the middle of the field or shorter. Eskridge looks the part of a WR that can create instant separation. Seems like he has great attitude too. He will have a huge impact if not at #3 WR but on special teams. He could be a "Devin Hester" like as a return specialist.
 

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Geologic":h4hl8pwf said:
Bullrush the offensive line and Russell is gonna eat $h!t
There are many ways to skin a cat. Remember those plays last year where the Hawks would throw a quick out but the defender would be right on the receiver and tackle him for minimal gain? Eskridge's strength is taking a 1 yard quick out and turning it into a first down or much more with superior open field elusiveness and speed.

One of the best ways of avoiding pressure is to get the ball out quickly. If you have the time, take a look at our playoff loss to the Packers in 2019 and you'll see that a) our DL was actually kinda dominant and b) it didn't matter because their offense schemed around it successfully.
 

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Worst 2nd round pick ever, dude isn’t good enough to start 4th round talent

You must be pretty new to football if you've never heard of Malik McDowell.
 

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Seanhawk":232rntdb said:
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Schneider confirmed in presser they had a trade back set up that fell through a few minutes before the pick. Stuck and took the BPA on their board, Eskridge.

Says Eskridge is versatile. Don't have a specific plan for him, they're gonna work him in to wherever works.

So they took the highest rated player on the board because they had no plan if the trade down didnt happen and they have no plan for the player they picked. Just brilliant. Seriously, this FO reminds me of a deer looking at headlights,,,,,,lost.

You're off the rails. What would you like for the plan to be if a trade down falls through? Take the lowest rated player on their board? Not make a pick at all? What the hell?

I can understand not liking the pick because you valued an offensive lineman more. I did for the most part too. But this gripe is just stupidity.

Its not stupidity. The way its worded is that JS and the FO got stuck when they couldnt trade down so they took the best player available regardless of position. To hell with the needs of the team.
 

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Chapow":jdcczl95 said:
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Worst 2nd round pick ever, dude isn’t good enough to start 4th round talent

You must be pretty new to football if you've never heard of Malik McDowell.

Might I add Christine Michael to the list?
 

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The Seahawks have drafted 3 WRs in their second round history under PC/JS. Those were Golden Tate (2010), Paul Richardson (2013), and DK Metcalf (2019). I believe the WR choices turned alright to very good. Hopefully Eskridge is in that line of good to great. We'll see how this shakes out.

On the other hand, they chose two OL in the second round (under PC/JS) - those were Britt and Pocic. Considering this, I'm even more ecstatic they went with a WR - Eskridge for their choice of pick.

https://www.nbcsports.com/northwest...round-picks-under-pete-carroll-john-schneider
 

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Dude will be worse than all of those maybe not McDowell Bc he was a first round pick, but this kid isn’t even going to be our WR3 that will be our TE we signed this off season this dude will maybe get 4 plays a game it’s such a waste of a pick in more upset that people think it’s good when it won’t matter when Russ is on his back because our C isn’t a good starter we need a T for when brown retires or shells injured, we need a CB Bc flowers was trash 95% of the season when he played and weatherspoon hasn’t been healthy in the 49ers to see if we could use him
 

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Momofantv":2tnb1i76 said:
Dude will be worse than all of those maybe not McDowell Bc he was a first round pick, but this kid isn’t even going to be our WR3 that will be our TE we signed this off season this dude will maybe get 4 plays a game it’s such a waste of a pick in more upset that people think it’s good when it won’t matter when Russ is on his back because our C isn’t a good starter we need a T for when brown retires or shells injured, we need a CB Bc flowers was trash 95% of the season when he played and weatherspoon hasn’t been healthy in the 49ers to see if we could use him

Check your facts. McDowell was indeed a 2nd round pick.
 

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Fade":1i5m3vg5 said:
chris98251":1i5m3vg5 said:
Fade":1i5m3vg5 said:
Aros":1i5m3vg5 said:
LOVE this pick. If Rob Rang loves this pick, I love this pick. His film looks spectacular. I love Hugh Millen's comments earlier today..."His legs look like a sewing machine." We finally found a #3 that will feel more like a #1 or #2. Antonio Brown 2.0. LOVE.

Just as a heads up, he's more Harvin than Antonio Brown skillset wise.

He is a really fast Golden Tate, same size, better hands and speed, has the intangibles of Lockett when he came out as Return guy as well, picked at 56, Tate at 60. More Natural receiver. He has all the upside of the guys we talk about all the time and better measurables. He just came from a lesser competition program. But he showed he could play with them in the Senior Bowl.

Waldron uses 4 receiver sets also, so we can go big with Swain and Metcalf, or small and quick with Lockett and Eskridge. Not losing any deep threat with any of them.

Also we will have a legit threat to still be accountable for if either Metcalf or Lockett miss a game at any point.

Golden Tate could really high point the football and make incredible catches in traffic. Eskridge is a Harvin clone, in that he looks like a kick returner/runner playing WR, while also not being very polished as a receiver. Run him on Jet Sweeps, line him up in the backfield at times, get the ball in his hands early and let him pile up the YAC. Harvin didn't play a lot with the Seahawks, but in the few games he did they loved to Jet Motion him, they will do the same with Eskridge.

It creates an extra layer to the running game that teams will now have to defend. Wide Zone, QB Boot off of wide zone, and Jet Motion. If teams get misaligned at any point, they will get wrecked. McVay has been doing it to Pete for years.

Eskridge I'm guessing will have around 800 yards Rushing/Receiving combined his rookie year if he plays in 17 games.

The most yards rushing Golden Tate has ever had in a single season is 41 on a measly 6 attempts. Eskridge will have nearly more yards rushing in his rookie year than Tate's entire career, which is only 216 yards. Harvin is the better comp.

Your wrong, Harvin was a Returner that could not run a route to save his life other than a streak. Not even f-in close.
 

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oldhawkfan":2zvzeiub said:
Momofantv":2zvzeiub said:
chris98251":2zvzeiub said:
Strengths
Averaged 21.8 yards per catch over his last 74 catches.
High school sprint and long-jump champion.
Scored touchdowns of 72, 76 and 85 yards in 2020.
Scary burst for quick vertical separation if punch is whiffed.
Rapid foot turnover through the route.
Maintains good tempo through the route.
Able to plant and cut at fairly crisp angles.
Timing getting to full extension to make high-point catch.
Big time catch-and-run talent with instant burst to hit the home run.
Ability to stretch defense from the slot.
Averaged 27.5 yards per return with a touchdown as kick returner in 2020.

Weaknesses
Ran a very simple route tree.
Bumped off track inside five yards.
Hip tightness prevents quick sink-and-open.
Average acceleration in restart once he slows his feet.
Geared down route speed telegraphs underneath route.
Needs to sell deeper, more committed route fakes.
Ball tracking and ball skills miss the mark.
Drop rate and catch focus has been an issue for him.
Unable to catch through crowding consistently enough.

He will need to learn some things, his competition level as well as limited games last year hindered a big part of a learning curve I would expect, but he has tools that can be worked on, he has a pretty good mentor in Lockett to help as well as Ursua on the practice squad.


Worst 2nd round pick ever, dude isn’t good enough to start 4th round talent


Never heard of Owen Gill, huh?! :roll:

True best back the Seahawks wish they never drafted.

Followed closely by the Andre Hines pick.
 

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[tweet]https://twitter.com/NextGenStats/status/1388298594105454597[/tweet]

I dunno, seems pretty decent for the worst 2nd round pick ever. :lol:
 

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I think covid draft situation has heavily influenced the fo's board. Additionally, less off season work means rookies will have harder time. Rookie C with less time to gel or Special Teams ace with potential to contribute as both WR or CB.... In a normal year, maybe the pick would fall differently.
 
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