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Uncle Si":2paeb75w said:
uhhh... i dont know. you know youre French league footballers as well as Wenger I think. but still...

Eitehr way. Arsenal surely arent waiting for Szczesny to not be good this year
Honestly, there are 3 keepers I was fond of in the french league last year: Ruffier (St-Etienne keeper), Sirigu (PSG keeper), and Ospina (Nissa keeper). I have no doubts there are better than Szczesny.

edit: I forgot to mention Enyeama and Ochoa.
 

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What is going on with Saints....Mass exodus happening.

Youth coaches are phenomenal....but seems like no club loyalty at all? Shocking number leaving this window.
 

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Smurf":gwla50cx said:
What is going on with Saints....Mass exodus happening.

Youth coaches are phenomenal....but seems like no club loyalty at all? Shocking number leaving this window.

I think they over reached financially getting to the Premier league and have been told to cash in. There's more complicated issues at play that someone on here may know moreof (ownership passed down via will and now may be looking to asset strip?) but I think the Saints organization opened the door for the players, not the players kicking it down. If they can stay up this season, with the money they've amassed, they will be financially sound for ages. It seems thats the plan.

Clyne has to be the next to go (and is a better right back than Chambers, who just went to Arsenal for around 16mil) would love him at Liverpool, instant upgrade over Johnson.. heard Schneiderlin was told no (atleast to Spurs, maybe a better offer coming in?) Rodriguez as well, but isnt he still injured?
 

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Uncle Si":rez2kiu0 said:
I think they over reached financially getting to the Premier league and have been told to cash in. There's more complicated issues at play that someone on here may know moreof (ownership passed down via will and now may be looking to asset strip?) but I think the Saints organization opened the door for the players, not the players kicking it down. If they can stay up this season, with the money they've amassed, they will be financially sound for ages. It seems thats the plan.

Clyne has to be the next to go (and is a better right back than Chambers, who just went to Arsenal for around 16mil) would love him at Liverpool, instant upgrade over Johnson.. heard Schneiderlin was told no (atleast to Spurs, maybe a better offer coming in?) Rodriguez as well, but isnt he still injured?
I've read the Saints claim 27M for Schneiderlin which the Spurs cannot afford. Anyway, with all the money they got, they might be able to build a new stadium.

Btw, if any of premiership teams are interested, please buy Valbuena. I hope we would get rid of this scam.
 

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Uncle Si":2rirtb06 said:
Smurf":2rirtb06 said:
What is going on with Saints....Mass exodus happening.

Youth coaches are phenomenal....but seems like no club loyalty at all? Shocking number leaving this window.

I think they over reached financially getting to the Premier league and have been told to cash in. There's more complicated issues at play that someone on here may know moreof (ownership passed down via will and now may be looking to asset strip?) but I think the Saints organization opened the door for the players, not the players kicking it down. If they can stay up this season, with the money they've amassed, they will be financially sound for ages. It seems thats the plan.

Clyne has to be the next to go (and is a better right back than Chambers, who just went to Arsenal for around 16mil) would love him at Liverpool, instant upgrade over Johnson.. heard Schneiderlin was told no (atleast to Spurs, maybe a better offer coming in?) Rodriguez as well, but isnt he still injured?

What's interesting to me is that Southampton have done well financially on every one of these deals so far. If the goal is to sell off assets, they've done remarkably well so far. And maybe it's not out and out asset stripping; these players have all played well enough to attract the attention of rich clubs regardless of whether they've been put up for sale or not.

It's a real shame, though. Has to be tough to be a fan down there. They've seen some very exciting players leave before they really got started (Bale, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain come to mind) and now they have a legitimately pretty good team stripped almost bare. It's hypocrtical to moralize, I know, as I'm excited to have Pochettino at Spurs, and would be happy if they can add Schneiderlein, Rodriguez or both and I'm sure you're excited about Shaw, Smurf, and the Liverpool additions, likewise. But still, sucks to be them, and it's probably ulitmately bad for the league too, assuming they can't get back to being as good for a while.
 
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Seems like Lukaku is on the verge of a permanent move to Everton. Quite frankly it's stupid business by Chelsea cause he was clearly a better striker than anyone Chelsea had last season, Chelsea never seemed to want him but for whatever reason decided to keep him on their wage bill. It's actually ironic that some people said he was the replacement for Drogba when he left, only now it seems Drogba is gonna replace Lukaku now.
 

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Gatehawk":2aqe3a0w said:
Seems like Lukaku is on the verge of a permanent move to Everton. Quite frankly it's stupid business by Chelsea cause he was clearly a better striker than anyone Chelsea had last season, Chelsea never seemed to want him but for whatever reason decided to keep him on their wage bill. It's actually ironic that some people said he was the replacement for Drogba when he left, only now it seems Drogba is gonna replace Lukaku now.

they dont rate him Gate. No idea why either. Something between him and JoMo though. As soon as they bought Costa you knew Lukaku was on his way out.

Something there with Lukaku. He's a talent, no doubt. But the Belgian coach started favoring Origi above him, and now ofcourse Mourinho. Its not as if he doesnt fit Chelsea's attacking style. he was great for Martinez in a more possession oriented side.
Where's a Chelsea fan when you need one?
 

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Uncle Si":3i3jk70k said:
Gatehawk":3i3jk70k said:
Seems like Lukaku is on the verge of a permanent move to Everton. Quite frankly it's stupid business by Chelsea cause he was clearly a better striker than anyone Chelsea had last season, Chelsea never seemed to want him but for whatever reason decided to keep him on their wage bill. It's actually ironic that some people said he was the replacement for Drogba when he left, only now it seems Drogba is gonna replace Lukaku now.

they dont rate him Gate. No idea why either. Something between him and JoMo though. As soon as they bought Costa you knew Lukaku was on his way out.

Something there with Lukaku. He's a talent, no doubt. But the Belgian coach started favoring Origi above him, and now ofcourse Mourinho. Its not as if he doesnt fit Chelsea's attacking style. he was great for Martinez in a more possession oriented side.
Where's a Chelsea fan when you need one?
They are busy trying to keep John Terry away from their wives.
 
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Not really all that important, but just found out that the Premier League will start using the vanishing spray that was used during the World Cup this season.
 

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Uncle Si":36dr0ysz said:
Gatehawk":36dr0ysz said:
Seems like Lukaku is on the verge of a permanent move to Everton. Quite frankly it's stupid business by Chelsea cause he was clearly a better striker than anyone Chelsea had last season, Chelsea never seemed to want him but for whatever reason decided to keep him on their wage bill. It's actually ironic that some people said he was the replacement for Drogba when he left, only now it seems Drogba is gonna replace Lukaku now.

they dont rate him Gate. No idea why either. Something between him and JoMo though. As soon as they bought Costa you knew Lukaku was on his way out.

Something there with Lukaku. He's a talent, no doubt. But the Belgian coach started favoring Origi above him, and now ofcourse Mourinho. Its not as if he doesnt fit Chelsea's attacking style. he was great for Martinez in a more possession oriented side.
Where's a Chelsea fan when you need one?
I'm not a Chelsea fan, but I can tell you why. He is overrated!!!
 

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Nog":3gvjn97a said:
Uncle Si":3gvjn97a said:
Gatehawk":3gvjn97a said:
Seems like Lukaku is on the verge of a permanent move to Everton. Quite frankly it's stupid business by Chelsea cause he was clearly a better striker than anyone Chelsea had last season, Chelsea never seemed to want him but for whatever reason decided to keep him on their wage bill. It's actually ironic that some people said he was the replacement for Drogba when he left, only now it seems Drogba is gonna replace Lukaku now.

they dont rate him Gate. No idea why either. Something between him and JoMo though. As soon as they bought Costa you knew Lukaku was on his way out.

Something there with Lukaku. He's a talent, no doubt. But the Belgian coach started favoring Origi above him, and now ofcourse Mourinho. Its not as if he doesnt fit Chelsea's attacking style. he was great for Martinez in a more possession oriented side.
Where's a Chelsea fan when you need one?
I'm not a Chelsea fan, but I can tell you why. He is overrated!!!


44 league goals by 21. More than Ronaldo, Messi, Bale, Rooney, Suarez, Falcao.


Kids got talent. Loads of it. Natural goal scorer.


any issues he has are in his head.
 

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Smurf":2y4z6srn said:
44 league goals by 21. More than Ronaldo, Messi, Bale, Rooney, Suarez, Falcao.


Kids got talent. Loads of it. Natural goal scorer.


any issues he has are in his head.
And I maintain he is overrated. Stats don't reveal a player skill especially in soccer.

I make my assessment of a player whenever the level becomes superior. In the national team, Lukaku is a ghost. Never done anything! He reached a point until Wilmots benched him.
 

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Nog":3ry3loea said:
Smurf":3ry3loea said:
44 league goals by 21. More than Ronaldo, Messi, Bale, Rooney, Suarez, Falcao.


Kids got talent. Loads of it. Natural goal scorer.


any issues he has are in his head.
And I maintain he is overrated. Stats don't reveal a player skill especially in soccer.

I make my assessment of a player whenever the level becomes superior. In the national team, Lukaku is a ghost. Never done anything! He reached a point until Wilmots benched him.

Think you're both right to be honest.

Lukaku is a very good talent with a strong goal scoring record. (I think THAT stat is particularly revealing, to be fair to Smurf).

That said, he's a bit overrated. (except at Chelsea and Belgium, which I think speaks volumes). But some of this (alot even) maybe down to his coaching. Mourinho has never been one known for this striker development. If anything, he's been bailed out by the individual greatness of the players he's inherited up there. Last year it cost him a title (in my opinion). The national teams are the national teams. I dont put alot of faith in them as barometers of a player's overall value. Its too hyper of an environment, with barely any time to be flexible and far too much pressure involved in each game. Have to get it right, or loosely close, in each game. Coaches tend to go blind in those arenas. In no way do I think Origi is better than Lukaku for example (although he may have a higher ceiling, of which i'm excited for)

He's got the right coach in Martinez though. Watching him linking up out wide effectively in his 433 showed the potential Lukaku has.

This will be a big year for him. Officially a player now, and not a loanee, and now trusted with Everton's success. I think he (and they) will come good.
 

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peachesenregalia":2z7qztzh said:
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/9402593/transfer-news-liverpool-look-to-sign-javi-manquillo-and-alberto-moreno

Yeeeooooo! Good news. Moreno is top-drawer, IMO. Manquillo is more of a prospect, but looks very good. This will certainly address the need for full backs.

After this, it's time to get a marquee striker/attacking player. Reus would be great. Benzema's name has also been kicked about. If we sell, Lucas, Borini, Assaidi and Agger, we should net at least 35-40 mil for them. I say we take that and go hard in the paint after Reus, although from what I'm reading, we're interested in Lavezzi. Would have preferred him 4 years ago, but oh well.


Manquillo may be more than just a prospect. Just reading up on him the last few weeks he seems pretty highly touted. Nog thought he was next in line for the RB position with Spain. Either way, he has to be better than the moving corpse that is Glen Johnson.

I think Bony and Kono are back on the radar. Really wouldnt be too upset with those two to be honest.
 

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peachesenregalia":22cj6bvs said:
Uncle Si":22cj6bvs said:
peachesenregalia":22cj6bvs said:
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/9402593/transfer-news-liverpool-look-to-sign-javi-manquillo-and-alberto-moreno

Yeeeooooo! Good news. Moreno is top-drawer, IMO. Manquillo is more of a prospect, but looks very good. This will certainly address the need for full backs.

After this, it's time to get a marquee striker/attacking player. Reus would be great. Benzema's name has also been kicked about. If we sell, Lucas, Borini, Assaidi and Agger, we should net at least 35-40 mil for them. I say we take that and go hard in the paint after Reus, although from what I'm reading, we're interested in Lavezzi. Would have preferred him 4 years ago, but oh well.


Manquillo may be more than just a prospect. Just reading up on him the last few weeks he seems pretty highly touted. Nog thought he was next in line for the RB position with Spain. Either way, he has to be better than the moving corpse that is Glen Johnson.

I think Bony and Kono are back on the radar. Really wouldnt be too upset with those two to be honest.


I'm rethinking my position on Bony. He's a pure Center-forward, and Rodgers prefers versatility. No to Kono. I'm annoyed that we didn't get him in January, but honestly, we have Markovic and Sterling to man the wings when needed. Lacazette would be a quality signing I reckon. Bony would be a great addition, but his price tag and the fact that he's a one-trick pony may put Rodgers off.

Remy was certainly the better option. But Bony atleast gives us support for Sturridge, and if/when he's on with Studge BR can move to the 4 diamond 2.

Marko and Sterling cannot be our only winger options. While I love Ibe getting a shot, and Coutinho and Lallana can play there, Kono (or Shaqiri!) can certainly be useful. I see Marko needing some time before he hits full stride.

This is why losing out on Sanchez was such a tough blow (f--ing Arsenal!!!). he can support a main striker, play the 10 or come out wide
 

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Arsenal can't win their own trophy? Kinda funny...how did Alexis look Gate?
 

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Manquillo might not to Liverpool! Something is up with this transfer.
 

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