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Uncle Si":1hpiud4t said:
I know personally that national team selection is the absolute barometric evaluator of a players worth.

Its certainly why Glen Johnson started for England. R Fred for Brazil. Klose for Germany...

Who would you have played instead of those first 2? What Brazilian forwards are better and were dropped, same for Johnson, which better English RB missed out? Klose is the all time best goalscorer in the world cup.

Pathetic argument.

It seems clear that the France manager rates Debuchy higher, I bet Wenger does to. Your homerism is blinding your judgement.
 

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UK_Seahawk":3158hrep said:
You have no idea what you are talking about, why does Debuchy start for France then over Sagna?
Debuchy is slightly better again. Both aren't that good! If you had watched France games during the World Cup you woulda realize that our RB and LB were liabilities!
 

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peachesenregalia":2krbopx5 said:
Nog":2krbopx5 said:
UK_Seahawk":2krbopx5 said:
You have no idea what you are talking about, why does Debuchy start for France then over Sagna?
Debuchy is slightly better again. Both aren't that good! If you had watched France games during the World Cup you woulda realize that our RB and LB were liabilities!

There's no point arguing with him, Nog. Not worth it.

All I said, is that Debuchy is better than Sagna and most people agree it seems.
 

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So because Brazil didn't have a better striker than Fred they should just continue to throw him out there, waste the space and ignore it?

That's a pathetic argument. Just as it was poor managing. How'd Brazil end up?

Way to ignore the other two as well. You'd take Klose over Gotze? Well you might as you'd take Remy over Sturridge.

Wenger offered Sagna a chance to stay. Sagna wanted high wages. Debuchy is their second maybe even third choice. Try Google if these things get confusing.

Your inability to formulate tangible thoughts behind "because I said so" is a little sad. But keep pressing on if you must. One day it may evolve into a coherent conversation. You're picking fights because you don't like Liverpool... Or me. But you're doing an awful job of supporting your arguments.

Me being a Liverpool fan has no bearing on Debuchy sucking. He's not very good. Serviceable sure. I'd take him over Johnson.
 

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Uncle Si":1mxmdnnz said:
Smurf":1mxmdnnz said:
Sounding like USMNT and Sporting KC player Matt Besler will turn down a move to Europe (Sunderland and Fulham have bids in) and instead re-sign with his hometown KC based mls club.


Dont mind that. The cbacks will do just fine developing in the MLS. its the more technical players that need the promotion. Plus, Besler sticks around to mentor Palmer until he leaves in 1-2 years.
Today SKC announced that both Besler and Graham Zusi have signed new DP deals through 2018.
 

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SeatownJay":1ux4kk4f said:
Uncle Si":1ux4kk4f said:
Smurf":1ux4kk4f said:
Sounding like USMNT and Sporting KC player Matt Besler will turn down a move to Europe (Sunderland and Fulham have bids in) and instead re-sign with his hometown KC based mls club.


Dont mind that. The cbacks will do just fine developing in the MLS. its the more technical players that need the promotion. Plus, Besler sticks around to mentor Palmer until he leaves in 1-2 years.
Today SKC announced that both Besler and Graham Zusi have signed new DP deals through 2018.


Big deal for the league and american soccer. US Players are getting rewarded at home for their play.
 

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Anyway, I'm done arguing about Debuchy. I wouldn't have to see him playing in the French National Team soon.

Btw, no one mentioned here that Newcastle signed Rémy Cabella. He is a really good player!!!
 

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Nog":8q00v1bk said:
Anyway, I'm done arguing about Debuchy. I wouldn't have to see him playing in the French National Team soon.

Btw, no one mentioned here that Newcastle signed Rémy Cabella. He is a really good player!!!

Nog you're responsible for all French ayer and league news here.

Good move for Newcastle...
 

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Uncle Si":y3nu8bn6 said:
Nog you're responsible for all French ayer and league news here.

Good move for Newcastle...
OK I can do that :mrgreen:

I hope Cabella will make them forgotten Hatem Ben Arfa. Seriously, this guy is the biggest waste of talent I've ever seen.
 

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Uncle Si":3twld6ob said:
So because Brazil didn't have a better striker than Fred they should just continue to throw him out there, waste the space and ignore it?

That's a pathetic argument. Just as it was poor managing. How'd Brazil end up?

Way to ignore the other two as well. You'd take Klose over Gotze? Well you might as you'd take Remy over Sturridge.

Wenger offered Sagna a chance to stay. Sagna wanted high wages. Debuchy is their second maybe even third choice. Try Google if these things get confusing.

Your inability to formulate tangible thoughts behind "because I said so" is a little sad. But keep pressing on if you must. One day it may evolve into a coherent conversation. You're picking fights because you don't like Liverpool... Or me. But you're doing an awful job of supporting your arguments.

Me being a Liverpool fan has no bearing on Debuchy sucking. He's not very good. Serviceable sure. I'd take him over Johnson.

Your inability to understand simple arguments baffles me. Fred played up front because he's the best striker Brazil have, simple as that. Doesnt mean he's a good striker.

Likewise the France manager picked Debuchy ahead of Sagna so it's reasonable to conclude Debuchy is better than Sagna. Your homer Liverpool buddy hates Arsenal so he said Sagna was better and then he lost the argument and resorted to insults.

You are trying to change the argument which is another tactic people do when they have lost an argument.

I said Debuchy is better than Sagna and he is. You started banging on about irrelevant stuff.
 

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peachesenregalia":1zs1le50 said:
No, you also said I didn't know what I was talking about. This from the guy who said no-one would pay even close to 70 mil for Suarez (he was sold for 75 mil), and how Liverpool paid a load for Lambert (they paid 4 million), and how Lambert was shit (averaging 14 PL goals a season the last 2 seasons).

Just because Debuchy > Sagna, does not mean Debuchy is a good player. He's not.

Someone is clearly bitter that Arsenal have had a much superior transfer window so far. They have added quality whilst Liverpool have added squad players for ridiculous prices. I can understand your pain and sympathise.
 

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UK_Seahawk":2s8g0u02 said:
Uncle Si":2s8g0u02 said:
So because Brazil didn't have a better striker than Fred they should just continue to throw him out there, waste the space and ignore it?

That's a pathetic argument. Just as it was poor managing. How'd Brazil end up?

Way to ignore the other two as well. You'd take Klose over Gotze? Well you might as you'd take Remy over Sturridge.

Wenger offered Sagna a chance to stay. Sagna wanted high wages. Debuchy is their second maybe even third choice. Try Google if these things get confusing.

Your inability to formulate tangible thoughts behind "because I said so" is a little sad. But keep pressing on if you must. One day it may evolve into a coherent conversation. You're picking fights because you don't like Liverpool... Or me. But you're doing an awful job of supporting your arguments.

Me being a Liverpool fan has no bearing on Debuchy sucking. He's not very good. Serviceable sure. I'd take him over Johnson.

Your inability to understand simple arguments baffles me. Fred played up front because he's the best striker Brazil have, simple as that. Doesnt mean he's a good striker.

Likewise the France manager picked Debuchy ahead of Sagna so it's reasonable to conclude Debuchy is better than Sagna. Your homer Liverpool buddy hates Arsenal so he said Sagna was better and then he lost the argument and resorted to insults.

You are trying to change the argument which is another tactic people do when they have lost an argument.

I said Debuchy is better than Sagna and he is. You started banging on about irrelevant stuff.

But Debuchy is not better than Sagna. The fact that one manager believed so is not conclusive. Especially considering its the World Cup and we have a litany of statd to show otherwise.

Your Fred argument is equally worthless. Spain won a World Cup without a striker. Brazil's manager couldn't adjust to his squads weaknesses.

The bitter one here is you. You don't support any of your arguments with salient points. Its not even having a discussion. Its just you stating a point and getting weepy when someone disagrees

Anyways I'm over it. Not much soccer talk in you so its pointless. Shame is there aren't many of us.

Let's sum up....

Remy is better than Sturridge despite the obvious
Debuchy is better than Sagna again despite the obvious
Arsenal have had a superior window because they signed one very good player and one average player
Liverpool have now signed 5 players including a player you claim is better than the second highest goal scorer in the PL, sold a player for 75 mil despite you claiming they'd get nowhere near that.

Brilliant...
 

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Without Suarez I still suspect he will get some time...not like he would at Sunderland though.
 

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Uncle Si":25txqw1b said:
UK_Seahawk":25txqw1b said:
Uncle Si":25txqw1b said:
So because Brazil didn't have a better striker than Fred they should just continue to throw him out there, waste the space and ignore it?

That's a pathetic argument. Just as it was poor managing. How'd Brazil end up?

Way to ignore the other two as well. You'd take Klose over Gotze? Well you might as you'd take Remy over Sturridge.

Wenger offered Sagna a chance to stay. Sagna wanted high wages. Debuchy is their second maybe even third choice. Try Google if these things get confusing.

Your inability to formulate tangible thoughts behind "because I said so" is a little sad. But keep pressing on if you must. One day it may evolve into a coherent conversation. You're picking fights because you don't like Liverpool... Or me. But you're doing an awful job of supporting your arguments.

Me being a Liverpool fan has no bearing on Debuchy sucking. He's not very good. Serviceable sure. I'd take him over Johnson.

Your inability to understand simple arguments baffles me. Fred played up front because he's the best striker Brazil have, simple as that. Doesnt mean he's a good striker.

Likewise the France manager picked Debuchy ahead of Sagna so it's reasonable to conclude Debuchy is better than Sagna. Your homer Liverpool buddy hates Arsenal so he said Sagna was better and then he lost the argument and resorted to insults.

You are trying to change the argument which is another tactic people do when they have lost an argument.

I said Debuchy is better than Sagna and he is. You started banging on about irrelevant stuff.

But Debuchy is not better than Sagna. The fact that one manager believed so is not conclusive. Especially considering its the World Cup and we have a litany of statd to show otherwise.

Your Fred argument is equally worthless. Spain won a World Cup without a striker. Brazil's manager couldn't adjust to his squads weaknesses.

The bitter one here is you. You don't support any of your arguments with salient points. Its not even having a discussion. Its just you stating a point and getting weepy when someone disagrees

Anyways I'm over it. Not much soccer talk in you so its pointless. Shame is there aren't many of us.

Let's sum up....

Remy is better than Sturridge despite the obvious
Debuchy is better than Sagna again despite the obvious
Arsenal have had a superior window because they signed one very good player and one average player
Liverpool have now signed 5 players including a player you claim is better than the second highest goal scorer in the PL, sold a player for 75 mil despite you claiming they'd get nowhere near that.

Brilliant...

Have you ever even been to a professional level game of football? You talk like some dick who watches a few live games on TV, reads ESPN and thinks they are somehow an expert.
 

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Ahh...UK. So charming.

Been to a few. Worked with a fair few players and coaches at that level as well. Have a couple badges. Coach a few teams. Played in college

Doesn't mean f--- all. But I didnt pick the game up from TV and FIFA. I don't care if our opinions match. You've just lost it though

You're a bit rattled. Surprised it was so easy. I'll leave you be at this point. There's not much to you and now you're just being hypocritical... Whining about peaches name calling then doing it yourself.

Thread can carry on just fine with me ignoring your tantrums
 

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