1pm east coast starts

C-Dub

New member
Joined
Aug 7, 2013
Messages
1,128
Reaction score
0
Location
Spokane, WA
Dick Johnson":1veep7ug said:
The 10am start time is a poor excuse. Great teams can win at any time, and at any venue.
Get all the east coast teams to start their games at 10am PST, and then we can talk.
 

Dick Johnson

New member
Joined
Aug 23, 2013
Messages
65
Reaction score
0
If a team is average, it will lose road games. If a team is good it will win road games. At 10 am, most people are closer to lunch time than breakfast. If you are not ready to work by then, you are never going to be ready. I'm pretty sure Seattle will beat most teams they face this season, and it has very little to do with what time the kickoff is.
 

RichNhansom

Active member
Joined
May 25, 2011
Messages
4,256
Reaction score
5
Dick Johnson":sv3gc6j8 said:
If a team is average, it will lose road games. If a team is good it will win road games. At 10 am, most people are closer to lunch time than breakfast. If you are not ready to work by then, you are never going to be ready. I'm pretty sure Seattle will beat most teams they face this season, and it has very little to do with what time the kickoff is.

So by your logic the Niners should have had no problem beating the Vikings and Rams last year at 10:00am but they didn't. In fact the only 10am game they won was against the Jets. Consider they were able to beat GB and NE in later games and explain how that logic applies. Reality is the only reason we weren't representing the NFC in the Super bowl is because the league moved any competitive team that should be playing the Niners at 10am, to later time slots.

Do you still think the Niners beat Atlanta in the playoffs if they had to play them at 10am? Recent history suggests they would have been curb stomped.
 

Dick Johnson

New member
Joined
Aug 23, 2013
Messages
65
Reaction score
0
The Vikings were a playoff team last year. Playoff teams usually win at home. The rams are a divisional team, and the niners biggest rival. Didn't Seattle lose to a division rival, on the road last season, as well? By your logic, Seattle would be undefeated every year, if only they didn't have to play 10 am games. Lets never consider the fact that Seattle has never been a strong road team, and maybe being away from that loud stadium has nothing to do with it.
 

NINEster

Well-known member
Joined
May 19, 2012
Messages
2,074
Reaction score
73
Scottemojo":2b1hxy64 said:
NINEster":2b1hxy64 said:
Scottemojo":2b1hxy64 said:
Ninestar, There are rules to protect East coast teams from having to travel to the west coast too much in a single season. There are no rules to protect west coast teams playing too many games the opposite direction. You can argue number of teams, the fact remains that there are actual rules that create unequal circumstances for both the Niners and Seahawks. A rule that when West coast teams travel East the game is at 4 PM hardly be unfair considering that both our teams log crazy air miles compared to East coast teams.

Agree.

I think the SF/TENN game @ 4pm is a concession for having to play in London the next week, otherwise it would probably be at 1.
Disagree. It's a concession that the Niners are popular and will bring ratings to that late slot.

Ok, well go to two straight conference games and a super bowl and maybe you'll get your precious 1 pm PST east coast games.
 

RichNhansom

Active member
Joined
May 25, 2011
Messages
4,256
Reaction score
5
Dick Johnson":1hc7zwjb said:
The Vikings were a playoff team last year. Playoff teams usually win at home. The rams are a divisional team, and the niners biggest rival. Didn't Seattle lose to a division rival, on the road last season, as well? By your logic, Seattle would be undefeated every year, if only they didn't have to play 10 am games. Lets never consider the fact that Seattle has never been a strong road team, and maybe being away from that loud stadium has nothing to do with it.

The Vikings and Rams were garbage teams the prior year and all indications while making the schedule were they would be an easy road game for you last year and that is why the NFL didn't move those games to later time slots. By the way that Vikings team doesn't even make the playoffs without beating you.

I noticed you didn't answer the question about being able to beat Atlanta in an early time slot.

The Rams are not currently a rival. You have to be competitive or at least a threat to be considered a rival. That is why most Seahawks fans don't really see the Niners as a true rival. They have been curb stomped by the only two teams that are good this year and back to back against us. They are rapidly becoming mediocre and things will only get worse next year and beyond as Gore and Cowboy diminish and the team (much like the fan base now) continues to lose confidence in the coaching staff.

When is the last time Seattle was blown out on the road? It hasn't happened this year or last and I cannot remember the last time it did or if it has even happened since Carroll took over. You only need to look back a couple weeks for at home and away games where you were brutally and savagely demoralized.

Truth is we had some disappointing loses last year when Wilson was still wearing training wheels but since they have unleashed him we have been very good to dominant on the road.

Looking at our common opponents this year we took the Colts to the end in their house while they throttled you in yours. Understandably though you fell victim to the same thing every other teams has trying to beat us. You made that game in Seattle your superbowl and the demoralizing loss caused a hang over the next week just like every other opponent we faced this year including the Colts. You can thank us later if you manage to beat the Titans this week.

We beat the Texans in their house and you benefited from that same hangover we gave you.

We beat the Cardinals in their house and had put that game away early while they came to your house and were in it all the way to your final drive. Same point differential too (mostly due to garbage time points when we had the game on lock down) and we did it on three days rest in a Thursday night match up. You barely got by them at home.

For a fan base that wants to be considered the best you sure are playing like a bunch of pretenders.

Right now the Seahawks organization is about the same age as the Niners organization was when they started winning super bowls but we don't have the luxury of buying trophy's the way your team did. We have to do it the correct way and right now we are the shining example of a first class organization from top to bottom and setting the example of how to be a great organization even when you can't buy trophy's.
 

C-Dub

New member
Joined
Aug 7, 2013
Messages
1,128
Reaction score
0
Location
Spokane, WA
NINEster":1vxji5is said:
Scottemojo":1vxji5is said:
NINEster":1vxji5is said:
Scottemojo":1vxji5is said:
Ninestar, There are rules to protect East coast teams from having to travel to the west coast too much in a single season. There are no rules to protect west coast teams playing too many games the opposite direction. You can argue number of teams, the fact remains that there are actual rules that create unequal circumstances for both the Niners and Seahawks. A rule that when West coast teams travel East the game is at 4 PM hardly be unfair considering that both our teams log crazy air miles compared to East coast teams.

Agree.

I think the SF/TENN game @ 4pm is a concession for having to play in London the next week, otherwise it would probably be at 1.
Disagree. It's a concession that the Niners are popular and will bring ratings to that late slot.

Ok, well go to two straight conference games and a super bowl and maybe you'll get your precious 1 pm PST east coast games.
Honestly that's how I feel. We need to start winning some championships and making the league some money before they throw us any bones.
 
Top