Seahawks exercise 5th year options for JSN and Spoon
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Resigning JSN or Spoon to extensions is going to be well over 100 million each, is big numbers.
A fifth year option to keep two key players on the roster is not big numbers
They will do enough to keep the team functional, like fifth year options and low level signings. Shaheed is the one exception this offseason
Nine of our own FAs. How many did we resign??
Did we make a splash in FA with the 6th most available cap space?
This team is up for sale. We are now have Lawyers and Accountants making the decisions and they do not think like fans
There will be very limited multi year big contracts going on the books
We have done very little this off season other than bare minimum to keep it functioning. That is because we are up for sale.
You can argue or not all believe this, I don’t care. But this off season is telling this exact story.
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Yes I brain farted on that. It still puts pressure to get these extensions done first to know what type of available dollars there will be for players like Hall. Ideally one of these gets done before the draft as it might affect what you'd do with Nwosu next year which would make edge a huge priority in this draft.
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On average, only 60 percent of first rounders get their 5th year option exercised. You only exercise the 5th year option for players that you want to keep. It gives you another year to negotiate an extension, in case negotiations hit a snag.
Sometimes teams decline the 5th year options because it is too much money, like in the case of Tyler Linderbaum. The Ravens declined the option, only to have it come back to bite them when Linderbaum became a free agent. Liinderbaum (drafted in 2022) would be playing on his 5th year option for the Ravens this year if they had exercised the option ($23 milion). That would have been less than the $27 million Liniderbaum got from the Raiders.
Sometimes teams decline the 5th year options because it is too much money, like in the case of Tyler Linderbaum. The Ravens declined the option, only to have it come back to bite them when Linderbaum became a free agent. Liinderbaum (drafted in 2022) would be playing on his 5th year option for the Ravens this year if they had exercised the option ($23 milion). That would have been less than the $27 million Liniderbaum got from the Raiders.
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I can't blame the Ravens for making that decision in 2024. Tagging him for a fully guaranteed $23.4M in 2026 when the 2024 franchise tag value for a LT was $20.985M made no sense. There was way too much injury or playing performance drop-off risk. The Ravens could still have franchise tagged him in February 2026 at $25.773M.
The downside to taking a C or G in the 1st round is that it's financially not viable to pick up the 5th year option. 2 years from now the Seahawks won't pick up Zabel's 5th year option, even if he plays at near ProBowl level. He'll have to be a top 4 NFL G to justify the risk.
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Yes, but that's the dilemma. The escalators like making the Pro Bowl multiple times is what gets the 5th year extension up there.
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My read on the announcement is the team is assuring Spoon and JSN that they both have long-term futures with the team... and the team will pay them accordingly.
And it's certainly not an indicator that the team and the players/agents are far apart on what their APYs will eventually be.
It's somewhat of an accolade that the Hawks announced Spoon and JSN as the FIRST players of their draft to have their 5th-year option exercised... leaving no doubt of how much they are valued by the team.
And it's certainly not an indicator that the team and the players/agents are far apart on what their APYs will eventually be.
It's somewhat of an accolade that the Hawks announced Spoon and JSN as the FIRST players of their draft to have their 5th-year option exercised... leaving no doubt of how much they are valued by the team.
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True, but that's kinda the point. A successful player should get a higher tag than a less successful player.
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There's some advantage to the players too. Depending on how the contact is structured they got more money now and not have to worry about an injury or something that can happen if they wait
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The idea we should trade guys like JSN and load up on draft picks instead of paying them reminds me of the Peter Griffin mystery box/ boat bit.
"Yeah it's JSN but with the draft picks you never know, we could draft another JSN"
"Yeah it's JSN but with the draft picks you never know, we could draft another JSN"
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You had me counting the contract years on my fingers.
Two of our dynamic superstars are locked down for our superbowl window. I was dreading the day we have to pay a record contract to one of our receivers and a cornerback. Now we have some time. 2 years is forever in the context of the salary cap and players longevity. Now Ihat I understand that a little better I feel some of that worry is lifted.And...in free agency this year I still want a difference maker on one of John's contracts that look bigger than they actually are. (A linebacker/edge from the Vickies?) If we are not getting better, we are going backwards. Not a desperate signing like the Rams; but a clever one. Some would say what assets do we have for a Greenard (sp?) Trade? We have now and the future.
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That actually is their argument to do that lol. If it pans out, you get a similarly valuable player at a substantially lower contract for half a decade and an additional player or two.
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Up for sale my ass as an excuse, business as usual, doing what they always do. The accountants and lawyers have no fricken involvement with the daily operations anymore then say Kid Rock does.
We are doing what we always do, did you come out of a recent coma for the last 14 years, quit spinning this Bullshit.
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I believe that they will try to get one of them done this year and the other the next. Doing the signing bonuses in the same season would be excessive. The most likely scenario is JSN this season, and Witherspoon in 2027.
I'm sure you're referring to the fact that up until we picked up Charles Cross's 5th year option last season, that we had never exercised that option since it became part of the CBA back in 2011 that we were the only team that had never picked one up. That was more a reflection on both our poor drafting performance, of which I lay a lot of that blame on Pete Carroll, and that we had traded away/wasted 6 of those first round picks. It's a sad commentary on that era of Seahawk football.
It was no coincidence that as soon as Pete leaves, we've picked up 3 5th year options in a row.
And I agree, they were smart moves for us to pick them up. But it was not unexpected, at least not by me.
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Reminiscing down Memory Lane. Those happy days when Smith-Njigba had a $2M+ contract. Then those other days, when there was a $2M final rookie contract year and a $23.85M 5th year option. Oh those cheap, happy days...
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