Organization is cheap

Ycrew said:

The organization has a lot of money to spend on to it's players, yet they are so cheap.

I think Walker got overpaid, but the prices that Bryant and Mafe got, were very close to what the team should had paid for FA.



Lucas and Cross and Sam is paid. Is the organization just going to save up money to pay JSN and Spoon?


If this is the case, I would feel bad for the players that did get drafted and are not stars like Spoon or JSN.

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Next you'll have Emmanwori and his draft mates . I'm sure they've looked at this from all angels and decided they had their limit.
Remember these guys are unrestricted, they don't have to give Seattle a chance to match or beat the deal offered. Sometimes these guys want to get closer to family etc.

I'm not saying this is the case this time and to answer the question if Seattle is cheap. I don't know. Maybe . IDGAF, these cheap bastards just won another SUPER BOWL!!!!

We should be in week 3 of an alcohol and drug fueled midget orgy of Seahawk celebration! ( I mean little people )

Okay Pearl's clutched got it

IIRC last year free agency after day 1 or 2 was a failure because John didn't get Ryan Kelly and another lineman whose name escapes me. We seemed to survive

MORGULON said:

Next you'll have Emmanwori and his draft mates . I'm sure they've looked at this from all angels and decided they had their limit.
Remember these guys are unrestricted, they don't have to give Seattle a chance to match or beat the deal offered. Sometimes these guys want to get closer to family etc.

I'm not saying this is the case this time and to answer the question if Seattle is cheap. I don't know. Maybe . IDGAF, these cheap bastards just won another SUPER BOWL!!!!

We should be in week 3 of an alcohol and drug fueled midget orgy of Seahawk celebration! ( I mean little people )

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Exactly! K9 was the biggest loss. Love the dude. He’s a baller.

But, he was splitting carries with Charb. Think KC will have the option to do that? K9 in pass blocking?

Im not slandering my dude but…we’ll be gtg.

Imo, there’s only four irreplaceable guys…and we’re lining it up to keep these guys around for their second stints. Your four may vary…

#compicks

HawkRiderFan said:

IIRC last year free agency after day 1 or 2 was a failure because John didn't get Ryan Kelly and another lineman whose name escapes me. We seemed to survive

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Will Fries? That dude got paid a ton and hasn't been good for them yet.

We just won the Super Bowl after JS got full control of the finances, crushed the draft and FA signings, and people are calling the team cheap lol lets also remember JSN and Witherspoon are going to be paid HANDSOMELY soon and there needs to be cash ready to do it. Giving average/above average guys enormous contracts means they probably can't afford both of them. Rotational/depth guys get poached from the SB winning teams every year, wish the guys well on their new squads and thank JS he doesn't give top $$$ to average dudes.

Ken Walker got an absolute bag of cash to a RB needy team. The Seahawks are going to run by commitee, they like Charbs too much not to. They aren't paying Walker $15 million a year to split carries. As much as I wished he stayed, he knew he would be the #1 on many other teams and got to go to a SB contender.

Mafe isn't worth nearly the amount of cash he got and was a rotational piece last year. Everyone hoped he would take the next step and just really didn't. Hall took his job and he was a situational pass rusher who got paid because he was on a great defense.

Bryant played well but again, that's a lot of money for a guy who plays 2 deep FS in this scheme and is asked to basically not get beat deep. They'll draft someone who can step right in.

GemCity said:

Exactly! K9 was the biggest loss. Love the dude. He’s a baller.

But, he was splitting carries with Charb. Think KC will have the option to do that? K9 in pass blocking?

Im not slandering my dude but…we’ll be gtg.

Imo, there’s only four irreplaceable guys…and we’re lining it up to keep these guys around for their second stints. Your four may vary…

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For the four, JSN, Spoon, and Murphy are the easy ones. Your fourth is... Darnold? Maybe Zabel I suppose but QB's are QB's.

BirdsCommaAngry said:

For the four, JSN, Spoon, and Murphy are the easy ones. Your fourth is... Darnold? Maybe Zabel I suppose but QB's are QB's.

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Nailed it! Emmanworri when it’s time.

GemCity said:

Exactly! K9 was the biggest loss. Love the dude. He’s a baller.

But, he was splitting carries with Charb. Think KC will have the option to do that? K9 in pass blocking?

Im not slandering my dude but…we’ll be gtg.

Imo, there’s only four irreplaceable guys…and we’re lining it up to keep these guys around for their second stints. Your four may vary…

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Your point spot on Walker . I was watching highlights of the NFCCG and I don't think he got enough credit . He played like an NFL top tier RB when it counted and I wish that dude well.

You're right re: KW benefited from Charbonet . I'm excited to see what the team has planned or whether they're comfortable with who they have .

Just won the fricken SB, let's call the organization cheap. My god this is a blast

Ycrew said:

Because players play their hardest and try to be successful, but they don't get re-signed with their team and have to rely on other markets.


Just like after Lynch was gone, the way Seattle treated their RB's was disgusting. Rawls Carson, Penny.

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From a business standpoint, the hawks don't value RB like some other teams do. What I see is a trend that got us to the SB...and won it.

Mafe < Nwosu

We won the SB because we have great players. We cannot keep all of them. If you want to make the case we should have kept K9 over ???, fine make it. Just saying we're cheap and we need to pay everyone we've lost because...no real reason...is a waste of everyone's brain cells.

Ycrew said:

The organization has a lot of money to spend on to it's players, yet they are so cheap.

I think Walker got overpaid, but the prices that Bryant and Mafe got, were very close to what the team should had paid for FA.



Lucas and Cross and Sam is paid. Is the organization just going to save up money to pay JSN and Spoon?


If this is the case, I would feel bad for the players that did get drafted and are not stars like Spoon or JSN

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Ycrew said:

Just like how they offered Golden Tate to come back for 4mill a year?

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That’s what happens when you screw the cap early. You end up losing guys like Tate. Can’t keep everyone. Js and Mm know who the core of this team is and they’re prioritizing those pieces.

MORGULON said:

Your point spot on Walker . I was watching highlights of the NFCCG and I don't think he got enough credit . He played like an NFL top tier RB when it counted and I wish that dude well.

You're right re: KW benefited from Charbonet . I'm excited to see what the team has planned or whether they're comfortable with who they have .

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Bro, K-Mac had the highest YPC. Limited but, enough to let you know he could be a dang problem sans injury.

Venus Jones looked pretty damn dynamic too.

Charbs isn’t as explosive as K9. But, is he as good a back as K9? One could argue yes (I think JS and MM agree).

Again…can’t take anything away from K9. He was magnificent at the end. But, he’s getting full time RB money now. I won’t be surprised if he can’t shoulder the load like that. Similarly, he may tear it up in that offense.

Doubt I pay much attention. RB1 is Charbs. I’ll definitely be interested in who we go after rookie wise. There’s a couple projected 3rd rounders that I’d love for us to move on.

GemCity said:

Bro, K-Mac had the highest YPC. Limited but, enough to let you know he could be a dang problem sans injury.

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Kenny showed some burst through the holes when available. I'd love to see what he can do behind this improved OL. Health will always be a question, but that's why they always go 5+ deep including the PS. He could be day 1 starter.

Organization is more in tune with a players worth then the fans, they also have a medical report that we never see, they know how many times he has been dinged up, in fact he was questionable due to a Oblique injury during the run at the end he played thru. Give the kid credit for stepping it up, but I don't see the frame of a back that can take punishment.

I do encourage anyone worried about the perceived exodus of talent to consider the fact that a lot of the guys we had who are getting paydays right now are only getting them because we put a coaching staff in place who elevated these guys from what they were before to what they ended up becoming.

Each loss represents an opportunity for a younger talent to get on the field, and this staff has a track record of continually elevating and developing guys from mediocrity to competency, even close to stardom.

That's the way it works with great staffs. The turnover invites the next group of studs to make their names.

When you have a staff that turns castoffs and roster-fillers like Jobe, Drake Thomas, and Ty Okada into bona fide starters, or fringe players like Coby Bryant and Boye Mafe into 10M+ APY players ($20M in Mafe's case!), you should keep betting on that turnover as not necessarily representing subtraction of talent but instead as the addition of possibility for unrealized potential to become realized production.

Elite coaching and elite talent scouting is what any team wants to hang their hat on, above all else. We have both. We should leverage that advantage for all we can.

To say that the organization is "cheap" is meaningless in a salary cap league. The teams are all going to spend the money, it's just a question of how you allocate resources. MLB's Athletics are cheap. In the NFL, there are no "cheap" teams. There are smart teams and there are foolish teams.

This is an extremely strong draft class for Safeties, many many potential starters in this class which is why they let Bryant walk.

It's also a quality draft for EDGE.

We'll definitely draft replacements there.

The teams only concern is given Charbs health, this draft class is quite weak at RB so its curious we didnt sign anyone today. I do suspect given how they acted today they're likely targeting one of Mike Washington, Emmet Johnson, or Singletary (depending on health), the first two who'd be suitable replacements for Walker's athleticism.

Going through the list of RBs by team, I'm guessing the roll of the dice JS is making is that there's a good chance neither Washington or Johnson will be drafted before the 4th round, probably only have 4-5 teams even looking to invest draft capital that high on the position (MIN, DET, WAS + SEA all have a need and then maybe JAX/TEN/IND/CIN/ATL could go that early too). Given the class being so weak in general, JS probably just banking on the lack of necessity will make most teams who already have 2 quality RBs to not even bother that early on any of them. If he's wrong though, I'm guessing his plan is to just see how things shake out as the offseason + season progresses. He's known to make in-season trades and maybe he figures there's always at least one bad team looking to offload a quality RB if they can get something for him.