Maelstrom787
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Their past two drafts have been pretty meat-and-potatoes.
Regardless, I was speaking more about the way they handle contract restructuring specifically.
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Regardless, I was speaking more about the way they handle contract restructuring specifically.
Oh ok, so you'll attribute just as much of the successful roster moves to Pete as John
Or are we "glossing over" moments we've had the same back and forth before?
I dunno call me crazy but I'd pin the blame on both, but we've had this discussion before so I'm not sure why you're being obtuse
Maelstrom787
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The hell are you talking about man?
I'm not attributing any of this to either Pete or John. I'm simply saying the Seahawks in this era have traditionally been fairly conservative with pushing money into future years when handling multi-year contracts.
That is all. I'm not saying anything about blaming either one of these dudes for success, failure, or anything in between.
I'm *just talking about contract tendencies*
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Geno's a low probability of getting us to a championship. Yeah I would trade for Mac Jones if the Pats would eat a large part of Geno's salary next year. Mac would provide veteran leadership for a rookie we might draft this year and then he is a free agent next year. Then we don't eat the full 38 million next year. I feel like Grubb can turn any of these young free agent QB's into dangerous weapons next year. Doesn't everyone say Brock Purdy is garbage? Look how far he got. Geno is a sunk cost they should have cut him before his clause went into effect.
Lol
" Hey guys, haven't lord of the rings tv shows and movies been great recently? I haven't followed closely since 2003, so I could be wrong"
Similar tier nonsense just inverted
Sorry, I was letting previous discussions leak into this one.
I'd healthily disagree though, and you don't need to look any further than wr cap hit this year vs the previous two.
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You're only on the hook for $13.5m next year (rather than $8.7m), should they decide to cut ties. It's really not a big difference in money. This move basically makes it easier for them to get under the cap before March 13th & makes him more attractive to other teams (trade). There's really not a ton of downside to this move.
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Mac gives vet leadership geno doesn't, and is apparently not "low probability" for championship next year
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. I watch the draft and catch a Seahawks game on TV now and again. Even read Fieldgulls! 
. I don't follow everything about them like I used to, but know enough by watching a game or two they are poorly constructed team and Pete needed to be fired after the 2 Superbowl. John Schneider probably needed to fired, too. Still think Schneider isn't long for this team, but maybe he will prove me wrong.
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Spoiler: They're trying to win now, not in 3 years.
This is how NFL teams/FO's operate. They're not trying to actively put out a worse product. They want to win & keep their jobs. This isn't the NBA or other sports, where tanking is a real thing. So yes, they're going to try & win as many games as possible this year, with or without Geno.
I agree with pretty much everything you just said, but
it's not about immediate compliance. I don't know the date, but theres a significant amount of time until that point, at least in terms of league happenings between now and then.
I also think the trade ship sailed, I find it difficult to believe 4.8 million this year alone would be the tipping point of a trade happening or not
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Mac doesn't give you more leadership than Geno. Mac is just cheaper and walks in 2025? Mac has a better chance to win a Superbowl under Grubb than Geno. Geno will get his stats and not take you anywhere. Poor man's verison of Matt Ryan.
He reads field gulls, shut it down boys
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CactusJack
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The start of the league year I believe is the 13th of March.
Pretty much this.
I liked Pete more than most here, but I wasn't a fan of him having power over John for reasons like this.
Ironically a lot of people here that defend Schneider, assume that Pete was making selfish moves to save the end of his career....
Yet despite literally no evidence assume John wouldn't do the same thing now without a scapegoat lol
I lliterally hope every bad decision was Pete's, but less upsetting at the end of the day to at least attempt to operate in reality.
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Saving 4.8 million on this year's dead cap number wasn't necessary unless there was someone specific, they were making room for.
Without doing anything else, the Seahawks are now under the cap for 2024.
That includes the projected 2024 draft pool numbers but doesn't include any free agent pickups.
I imagine by cutting Adams and someone else, they will have some money to bring in a free agent or two.
Just don't expect that free agent to be Cousins, Mayfield, or someone that carries that big of a price.
Without doing anything else, the Seahawks are now under the cap for 2024.
That includes the projected 2024 draft pool numbers but doesn't include any free agent pickups.
I imagine by cutting Adams and someone else, they will have some money to bring in a free agent or two.
Just don't expect that free agent to be Cousins, Mayfield, or someone that carries that big of a price.
It's something like that for new negotiations/fa/tag deadline etc, but I don't think that's cap compliance date, unless cuts are going to be NUTS over the next month....
I've never even looked into the penalty to being over so I'm not entirely sure what the hypothetical punishment would be, if there's ever even been one.
Maelstrom787
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One of John's tendencies has been to go into the draft with few to no outright "holes" on the roster. With a new staff, I suspect they'll be keen to bring in a decent volume of low-priced options to get some of "their guys" on the roster. Free up the draft for BPA approach.
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John definitely shares part of the blame. Afterall, he's the one pulling the trigger on deals.
I put most of the blame on Pete when it came to gamedays. Not fully evolving as a coach.
But when it comes to the draft, trades & free agent signings, John definitely plays a big part. Always has.
