Elijah Arroyo going forward

[Scout]

I’m looking forward to Arroyo as well. I could see a lot of two TE sets with Barner. Their skill sets should compliment each other well.

Yeah Barner is sneaky quick in the intermediate routes while Arroyo can excel downfield.

 

[LeveeBreak]

These ^^^

Adding Arroyo as a weapon isn't a negligable impact...that dynamic is gonna give fits to OC's already trying to figure out how to stop our WR's, RB's, and Barner. A TE that can split the seam like a speedy WR is a wrinkle they will struggle to address.

 

[flv2]

Inconclusive. He has potential but a player with a history of injuries is unlikely to become more explosive or have a long career.

nfl.com/prospects/elijah-arroyo/32004152-5262-9685-50ee-580fc8b42629

 

[Chevy]

I'm also super concerned about him being injury prone. But, if he can stay healthy I think he can be a great receiving threat.

 

[LeveeBreak]

Inconclusive. He has potential but a player with a history of injuries is unlikely to become more explosive or have a long career.

nfl.com/prospects/elijah-arroyo/32004152-5262-9685-50ee-580fc8b42629

Not sure inconclusice is the right term...maybe specutlative with caveats. I don't think anyone said its already happened or will definitely happen.

To your point, injuries can impact but they don't dictate foregone conclusions:

Frank Gore is perhaps the ultimate example, tearing both ACLs in college before becoming the NFL's number three all-time leading rusher.
Several other elite NFL players completely rewrote their narratives after being labeled "injury-prone" early in their careers.

Drew Brees: Suffered a potentially career-ending dislocated shoulder and torn labrum in 2005 with the Chargers. The Dolphins passed on him in free agency due to medical red flags, leading him to sign with the Saints, where he won a Super Bowl and became a first-ballot Hall of Famer.

Thomas Davis: Became the first player in NFL history to successfully return from three separate ACL tears in the same knee (2009, 2010, 2011). He went on to play another decade, making three Pro Bowls and winning the Walter Payton Man of the Year award.

Matthew Stafford: Missed 19 total games over his first two NFL seasons due to recurring shoulder dislocations and knee injuries, earning an unfair "glass" reputation. He bounced back to play 136 consecutive games, eventually winning a Super Bowl with the Rams.

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Keenan Allen: Missed 26 games across his first four seasons due to a broken collarbone, a kidney laceration, and a torn ACL. He completely altered his trajectory to become one of the league's most consistent 1,000-yard wide receivers.

Christian McCaffrey: Played in just 10 total games between 2020 and 2021 due to severe hamstring, ankle, and shoulder issues. After a trade to the 49ers, he won Offensive Player of the Year and cemented himself as the league's most dominant hybrid weapon.

 

[Wsumatt1982]

Inconclusive. He has potential but a player with a history of injuries is unlikely to become more explosive or have a long career.

nfl.com/prospects/elijah-arroyo/32004152-5262-9685-50ee-580fc8b42629

No offense to you but I always hate this argument. Any player at any given time is an injury away from having an injury history.

Arroyo had one in college and a fraction of his first season. He may end up being "injury prone" but it's far too early and soon to call

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Come on man, this is dot love to call someone injury prone

/sarcasm

 

[flv2]

Not sure inconclusice is the right term...maybe specutlative with caveats. I don't think anyone said its already happened or will definitely happen.

To your point, injuries can impact but they don't dictate foregone conclusions:

Frank Gore is perhaps the ultimate example, tearing both ACLs in college before becoming the NFL's number three all-time leading rusher.
Several other elite NFL players completely rewrote their narratives after being labeled "injury-prone" early in their careers.

Drew Brees: Suffered a potentially career-ending dislocated shoulder and torn labrum in 2005 with the Chargers. The Dolphins passed on him in free agency due to medical red flags, leading him to sign with the Saints, where he won a Super Bowl and became a first-ballot Hall of Famer.

Thomas Davis: Became the first player in NFL history to successfully return from three separate ACL tears in the same knee (2009, 2010, 2011). He went on to play another decade, making three Pro Bowls and winning the Walter Payton Man of the Year award.

Matthew Stafford: Missed 19 total games over his first two NFL seasons due to recurring shoulder dislocations and knee injuries, earning an unfair "glass" reputation. He bounced back to play 136 consecutive games, eventually winning a Super Bowl with the Rams.

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Keenan Allen: Missed 26 games across his first four seasons due to a broken collarbone, a kidney laceration, and a torn ACL. He completely altered his trajectory to become one of the league's most consistent 1,000-yard wide receivers.

Christian McCaffrey: Played in just 10 total games between 2020 and 2021 due to severe hamstring, ankle, and shoulder issues. After a trade to the 49ers, he won Offensive Player of the Year and cemented himself as the league's most dominant hybrid weapon.

I don't think there's any point comparing Arroyo to previous high 1st round picks. Obviously those players had exceptionally high ceilings. People in this thread are talking about him becoming a deep threat at TE, which is rare for TEs. There are also comments about him being an asset as a WR, which also seems a bit unlikely. I'm not knocking him as a prospect but as an NFL player the clock is always ticking. The next man up will be looking to take his place. At this point he reminds me of TE Gerald Everett, who always seemed poised to breakout for 6+ years. I wish Arroyo well going into the 2026 season.

 

[Jville]

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I found it a relief to read that the Seahawks had resigned Eric Saubert as a number 2 tight end.

At the conclusion of last season, Elijah Arroyo was neither a complete route runner nor a complete tight end. Both Elijah and the coaching staff have a lot of areas of improvement on their agenda. Elijah needs to improve his change of direction and change in acceleration/deceleration. Better hand placement and blocking technique.

A whole lot of potential remains to be developed. Hope for the best and have a plan B.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Meanwhile, 710 ESPN just said that AJ Barner played thru 5 INJURIES last season. Fricken warrior.

 

[MontanaHawk05]

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I found it a relief to read that the Seahawks had resigned Eric Saubert as a number 2 tight end.

At the conclusion of last season, Elijah Arroyo was neither a complete route runner nor a complete tight end. Both Elijah and the coaching staff have a lot of areas of improvement on their agenda. Elijah needs to improve his change of direction and change in acceleration/deceleration. Better hand placement and blocking technique.

A whole lot of potential remains to be developed. Hope for the best and have a plan B.

Honestly, this is where I land. The Arroyo hype seems at this point to just be that, hype. His route-running led to at least one of Darnold's 4 picks against the Rams in the first game.

Far too early to call him a bust, but he really underachieved in his rookie year for a high second-rounder. We'll see what the next guy does with him, but it's not as if the last coaching staff to be working with him could exactly be called a bad one.

 

[flv2]

No offense to you but I always hate this argument. Any player at any given time is an injury away from having an injury history.

Arroyo had one in college and a fraction of his first season. He may end up being "injury prone" but it's far too early and soon to call

I totally get your point. If he had 3 full college seasons, 2 NFL seasons, and he was established as a starter then the injuries wouldn't be an issue. The problem is he really only has 1 college season behind him and no-one really knows if he a high-end starter in the making or a potential flame-out. At this point it's an unknown, (with injury concerns). Hence this thread. I'm not crapping on the guy but i'm not counting on him as a sure thing. Again, I wish him well.

 

[nwHawk]

Honestly, this is where I land. The Arroyo hype seems at this point to just be that, hype. His route-running led to at least one of Darnold's 4 picks against the Rams in the first game.

Far too early to call him a bust, but he really underachieved in his rookie year for a high second-rounder. We'll see what the next guy does with him, but it's not as if the last coaching staff to be working with him could exactly be called a bad one.

I’m glad you pointed that out. A lot of people thought that was on Sam, but it was clearly a rookie mistake. He’ll get better. But is he elite, not even close… yet. But, hopefully some day.

 

[Bobblehead]

I’m glad you pointed that out. A lot of people thought that was on Sam, but it was clearly a rookie mistake. He’ll get better. But is he elite, not even close… yet. But, hopefully some day.

One of the radio guest expert says, the trouble is his foot work, when he breaks, he slows way down allowing the defender to catch up..then goes on to say it's technique and technique can be taught... so he needs to work on that.

 

[seabowl]

One of the radio guest expert says, the trouble is his foot work, when he breaks, he slows way down allowing the defender to catch up..then goes on to say it's technique and technique can be taught... so he needs to work on that.

The problem I have is he was a second round pick that was another “surprise” and at least that the time didn’t seem to warrant that high of a draft pick. I’m not questioning JS but it was one of those head scratchers at the time and even now.

 

[Wsumatt1982]

The problem I have is he was a second round pick that was another “surprise” and at least that the time didn’t seem to warrant that high of a draft pick. I’m not questioning JS but it was one of those head scratchers at the time and even now.

More people had Arroyo as a 1st round talent than anything. He really only slipped because of an injury.