Draft is Gonna be Interesting

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I can definitely see trading our first round pick and maybe grabbing a 2 & 3 out of it.

I’d take that all day.

I’ve said I’m not sure we have a #1 RB on the roster (injured or not) but, CB and Edge are the priority imo.

Like it or not, we’re hitting this season with a ‘running back by committee’ mindset 🤷.
 

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A likely comparison should reveal itself between the 2021 COVID draft and the upcoming draft. I can certainly discern similarities as to how John Schneider is approaching the 2026 draft. As well as Day 4 signings of undrafted development prospects.
 

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Maybe he one learned from his past mistakes. That'd be even more admirable than having to give him a scapegoat.

The last draft Pete was there for was tremendous anyway. I think he got fired more for the coaching stuff that passed him by than anything else.
That last draft, Pete was stripped prior of being VP of operations.
He had no power other than being just HC, since then with Pete out
of his way John has done a great job.
 

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You state it would be a failure to draft for need over BAP at #32, while conveniently branding Price the absolute BAP at 32? Says who?
Says me.

And then you pick him because of our implied NEED of a #1 RB. You've annoited Price our saviour, the only player that is a worthy pick for us at 32.

Then you go on to say there are no 1st round CB's when most mocks show 4 CB's going on the first round and cornerback being one of the few strengths of this draft. Then the statement, "CBs can be found in the 2nd and 3rd rounds."

Way to micro-analyze everything.

I stated it was my opinion and you're practically acting like what I am saying is proven fact or something. 😂

It's an opinion.

I would either be proven wrong or right this coming draft regardless.

Relax. It's not that deep. (what I'm saying, that is)
 
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I can definitely see trading our first round pick and maybe grabbing a 2 & 3 out of it.

I’d take that all day.

I’ve said I’m not sure we have a #1 RB on the roster (injured or not) but, CB and Edge are the priority imo.

Like it or not, we’re hitting this season with a ‘running back by committee’ mindset 🤷.
Then Sammy D is going to have a massive target on his back 'cause our Offense is more than likely going to be far more one-dimensional than we'd like unless one of our Depth-RBs gets HOT or Charbs comes back earlier from injury (and that's if he's close to what he was). 🤷‍♂️'

That's why drafting JP at #32 (if he's there, mind you) would be preferable as having him would show teams that we still have a bonafide RB1 (though not to the level of K9 but still an RB1, nonetheless) for them to think about.

'Cause let's be honest here : Are teams really going to fear a RB trio of Holani, MacIntosh, and Velus Johnson? 😒
 
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Then Sammy D is going to have a massive target on his back 'cause our Offense is more than likely going to be far more one-dimensional than we'd like unless one of our Depth-RBs gets HOT or Charbs comes back earlier from injury (and that's if he's close to what he was). 🤷‍♂️'

That's why drafting JP at #32 (if he's there, mind you) would be preferable as having him would show teams that we still have a bonafide RB1 (though not to the level of K9 but still an RB1, nonetheless) for them to think about.

'Cause let's be honest here : Are teams really going to fear a RB trio of Holani, MacIntosh, and Velus Johnson? 😒
I agree with you. Is Charb even a #1? Like K9, he split carries.

I wouldn’t have paid K9 what he got with KC.

As I agree that we’re looking like we don’t have a true #1 RB, I’m not so sure JS sees it like that. Picking up Wilson sort of confirms my ‘fear’.

I believe JS is happy where we’re at…and is willing to roll with it until Charb comes back.

I 100% believe he won’t be taking a RB at 32 but may grab a guy with our 3rd or 4th pick…which leaves the door open for Arkansas’ RB. Still feeling like that’s even a long shot…

I’d be shocked if he didn’t grab a CB or Edge first.

I’d be happy with Price…just don’t see it happening.

Lots of ‘I’ and ‘believe’. It’s a bigger issue than what folks would like to think imo. But, I’m definitely optimistic as we’re no doubt in good hands with JS and MM.
 
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Maybe he one learned from his past mistakes. That'd be even more admirable than having to give him a scapegoat.

The last draft Pete was there for was tremendous anyway. I think he got fired more for the coaching stuff that passed him by than anything else.
Just a quick reminder, the previous few drafts were so-so, and there were rumblings about changes to their draft process. I’d say John’s team got a bit more say in the draft rather than Pete. Since then, Hawks have been nails at drafting. Obviously, the change started then. Next year, Pete’s gone after another so-so disappointing season.
 

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I agree with you. Is Charb even a #1? Like K9, he split carries.

I wouldn’t have paid K9 what he got with KC.

As I agree that we’re looking like we don’t have a true #1 RB, I’m not so sure JS sees it like that. Picking up Wilson sort of confirms my ‘fear’.

I believe JS is happy where we’re at…and is willing to roll with it until Charb comes back.

I 100% believe he won’t be taking a RB at 32 but may grab a guy with our 3rd or 4th pick…which leaves the door open for Arkansas’ RB. Still feeling like that’s even a long shot…

I’d be shocked if he didn’t grab a CB or Edge first.

I’d be happy with Price…just don’t see it happening.

Lots of ‘I’ and ‘believe’. It’s a bigger issue than what folks would like to think imo. But, I’m definitely optimistic as we’re no doubt in good hands with JS and MM.
I'd be shocked if he didn't pick Price if he was available at #32.

Now I did suggest he might trade down if Price wasn't there but you do bring up a valid point that if there is a CB or Edge he wants bad enough at #32, he will draft him but imo (that's "in my opinion", for Seahawker's benefit since he has no clue what that means apparently), I think JP is just a bit more of a BPA than any CB/EDGE available at #32 should he still be there.

I guess the term "Agree to Disagree" applies. Oh well. :)
 

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Woolen is an idiot so no big loss but Jobe is mediocre they need help at CB more than anything. If there is a good CB available, take him. RB can be found in later round and they already have a bunch
 

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I'd be shocked if he didn't pick Price if he was available at #32.

Now I did suggest he might trade down if Price wasn't there but you do bring up a valid point that if there is a CB or Edge he wants bad enough at #32, he will draft him but imo (that's "in my opinion", for Seahawker's benefit since he has no clue what that means apparently), I think JP is just a bit more of a BPA than any CB/EDGE available at #32 should he still be there.

I guess the term "Agree to Disagree" applies. Oh well. :)
I would not be mad at all if he’s there and we take him. His stock is rising tho…31 picks before us 😢
 

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I would not be mad at all if he’s there and we take him. His stock is rising tho…31 picks before us 😢
yeah. That's why I'm using the caveat "IF he's still there".

If not, then either JS sees a CB or EDGE he just has to have (and doesn't believe he will be there later on) or he just says "F it. Quantity over Quality this season)
 

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I think we trade our 1st for an upper 2nd rounder and then trade that too for a middle 2nd rounder and end up with 2 extra picks.
Id say MAYBE? if they think their CB is gonna fall to the second round there? I have a feeling CB is their best bet first pick... decent options for other soft needs in the third
 

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Seems like John has either traded our 1st rounders for a FA or traded down or out of the first round more than he's actually used the native pick.
An incomplete list for sure, but here are some teams that might want to trade into the first round to #32.

Ravens, total picks 11.
1)14, 2)45, 3)80, 4)115, five 5th rounders.

Bengals, total picks 8.
1)10, 2)41, 3)72, 4)110.

Browns, total picks 9.
1)6, 1)24, 2)39, 3)70, 4)107.

Texans, total picks 8.
1)28, 2)38, 2)59, 3)69, 4)106.

Chiefs, total picks 9.
1)9, 1)29, 2)40, 3)74.

Raiders, total picks 10.
1)1, 2)36, 3)67, 4)102.

Dolphins, total picks 11.
1)11, 1)30, 2)43, 3)75.
 

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I will root for a trade up. Need to get between 14 and 18 for a solid player. I don't know what that would cost. Future pick would be ok. I would pair S Thieneman of Oregon with Emmanwori. The second pick I would position to draft guard Pregnon. Thirdly I would grab RB Coleman late. It's very doable and aggressive like last year I would pair Coleman and Wilson. Two thick explosive backs
Trading up would be a pleasant surprise. I think they are looking hard at edge, CB & RB with their picks.
 

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Trading down saves some cap space and allows you to pick up more draft lottery selections. But the flipside is that you can use UDFA to try out players and see who sticks. So they might be choosing quality over quantity for their few remaining draft choices.
 

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Do we have any players from the one draft year we traded down a bunch? We were proud of the quantity ...it's difficult spot to be in for sure.
 
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