Eagles Sign Woolen

[chris98251]

Woolen has holes in his game, no doubt about that mental lapses too. With all of his problems, he is average to slightly above average?

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Literally no one showing 4.2 .3 .4 speed in the combine is going to show that on the field unless they also have the route ability or coverage ability. I think scouts hold TOO much onto that "straight line speed" thing. Need vision as well or its useless

Did you ever watch Darrell Green Play, hell even Earl and many others, Riq was always catching up, most DB's go stride for stride, some guys like Green embarrass you being so fast by baiting the QB and closing.

 

[Natethegreat]

Again, you make incorrect statements because you don't frame the argument correctly. This is not a below avg contract which is easily proven with available data.

As of the 2025-2026 NFL season, the average annual salary for a cornerback is approximately $2.6m, with the market for top-tier cornerbacks exceeding $30 million per season. While the top 20+ corners earn over $10 million to $15+ million annually, the median is significantly lower due to the inclusion of rookie contracts and depth players.

He was paid top-20 annual because of his skills.
His contract is a shorter (1-year) deal because of his maturity.


This is correct, even though it's surrounded by conjecture and speculation. They did not re-sign him and likely did not pursue this because of his maturity and cost. Stop beating the dead horse.

You didn't qualify the original argument this way. All you said was (paraphrased) "because they didn't sign him, they don't agree that he's average or better". This provoked my questioning and counter-point.

You wanna say "I'm glad he's gone" or "dude wasn't worth the $$ we'd have to pay" or "his errors outweighed his abilities", I can get behind.

Saying "The FO must think he's not average or above" is speculative, irrational, and just isn't supported by any reasonable facts. If they thought he was below avg, he would not have played as much as he did.

• Super Bowl LX vs. New England Patriots: Woolen played at least 30 defensive snaps. He was reported as playing the fourth-most snaps on Seattle's defense during the 29–13 victory.
• Postseason Average: Across the entire 2025 playoffs (Divisional Round, NFC Championship, and Super Bowl), Woolen cleared the 70% defensive snap barrier, averaging over 30 defensive snaps per game throughout the run.

If you're not gonna base your takes on facts or reasonable/supportable assertions, then they're lame.
Lame definition: uninspiring and dull.

Woolen got a one year prove it deal. It shows VERY CLEARLY THEY DID NOT WANT HIM BACK. It shows very clearly that they don't consider him an above average CB when factoring in his numerous mental lapses on the field.
If they did they could have easily signed him. They are well below the cap.

D.K. and Walker did not get one year prove it deals. D.K. was first signed for a huge deal then traded and signed for another huge deal.
Ken Walker got a big three year deal that is top tier. No comparison between them.

 

[OGHawkDawg]

had a feeling he couldn't find a long term deal. He is the most likely to get a payday then flop.

 

[LeveeBreak]

Woolen got a one year prove it deal. It shows VERY CLEARLY THEY DID NOT WANT HIM BACK. It shows very clearly that they don't consider him an above average CB when factoring in his numerous mental lapses on the field.
If they did they could have easily signed him. They are well below the cap.

D.K. and Walker did not get one year prove it deals. D.K. was first signed for a huge deal then traded and signed for another huge deal.
Ken Walker got a big three year deal that is top tier. No comparison between them.

moving on...

 

[IndyHawk]

I’m afraid he learned that lesson and someone else may reap the rewards..

Ok not afraid but like he might be a superstar

Nah, if anything he's going to choke even more in Philly after getting
that money bag he didn't deserve.
I'm very happy he's far away from Seattle; I'm a results guy and he
failed in delivering besides his rookie year.

 

[HawkRiderFan]

Listened to the Ringer Football show today. Here's a non-Seahawk fan or media take on the Woolen signing from Sheil Kapadia and Dionte Lee

-high variance signing. By late in the he's either going to give the Eagles an amazing secondary with Mitchell and Dejean or we will hear by October that Fangio refused to play him anymore
-Loves his man to man coverage skills
-Lack of discipline, not just the penalties but how he plays in coverage causing him to get beat.
-Tackling. They had a stat that he had a 20% missed tackle rate. That one stood out to me as I can see MacDonald not tolerating that.

 

[TwistedHusky]

What? Without Reek we don't make the SB? Huh? Um..........without SPOON saving his a**, we don't make the SB, because of HIS STUPID SELFISH DECISION to put HIMSELF IN FRONT OF THE TEAM.
And then finish with more Rams worship? Come on Twisted, you're better than that.

Ram worship? You know I hate the Rams right?
IF I had a monkey's paw and could make a deal where the Rams would miss the playoffs for the next 10 years, with the cost being the Seahawks cannot win or even make a SB for the next 10? I would do that deal in a heartbeat.
I hate them. I almost wish our LB coach HAD beat the ish out of one of their asst coaches in that elevator....instead of having to be held back.

So no. God no. No Rams worship. (Seething Rams hatred? sure)

Second, No we would NOT have made the SB without Riq. (and yes I hate that nickname too) Not really sure how that is debatable. Jobe was getting abused often enough. He just put it together near the end of the year. And for as well as Spoon played in the playoffs? We had plenty of games where his weaknesses were glaring and taken advantage of. For all the problems with Woolen, that he was left on the other side says all you need to know. He was better than the other options. Once he stopped trying for the INTs, he improved bigtime.

And yes, he screwed up in that game. But then again, we had other games where other players screwed up and almost cost the game for us...or did. His screwup did not cost the game. And his play after giving up that TD was solid, saving another TD if I recall correctly. Then again, our defensive coaches screwed up putting him on an island after that BS call, when he was already upset and emotional. Our defensive coaches gave up that TD just as much as he did, because every person in the free world knew the Rams would target him and that he was still distracted. But they stupidly kept him in, AND LEFT HIM ON AN ISLAND. Nobody was shocked when he gave up that TD. That was on the coaches' complete lack of situational awareness on that play.

He is gone so whatever. But it annoys me to no end that people want to pretend he had no role in getting us to that SB. When he had a CRITICAL role. We will find out later, when we suddenly no longer have both sides shutdown so our DL can wreck havoc.

We wouldn't have made the SB without him, period. But people can't even be thankful for the contributions he made in getting us there.

 

[Runscott]

We wouldn't have made the SB without him, period. But people can't even be thankful for the contributions he made in getting us there.

I realize that the word 'period' is meant to shut down all rebuttals, but I will rebut anyway.

Woolen needed to be replaced, but it couldn't be easily done during the season. So yeah, we needed him. We also needed almost every other starter in order to win the SB. You can't just easily replace people mid-season. As soon as we could, after the Super Bowl, we got rid of him.

So technically you're right, but should we be appreciative of his efforts (and non-efforts)? No.

 

[TwistedHusky]

Time

I realize that the word 'period' is meant to shut down all rebuttals, but I will rebut anyway.

Woolen needed to be replaced, but it couldn't be easily done during the season. So yeah, we needed him. We also needed almost every other starter in order to win the SB. You can't just easily replace people mid-season. As soon as we could, after the Super Bowl, we got rid of him.

So technically you're right, but should we be appreciative of his efforts (and non-efforts)? No.

He was a big part of why the secondary was as good as it was, and the defense was as good as it was. It wouldn't have been as good without him.

Now we don't have him, we will see if you are right. If the secondary is just as good or if we lose the ability to squeeze opponents into submission by choking out their offense.
Not really anything we can substantially prove one way or the other until we test it without him.

But we can acknowledge that without his contributions, that trip to the SB likely does not happen.

 

[Runscott]

Time

He was a big part of why the secondary was as good as it was, and the defense was as good as it was. It wouldn't have been as good without him.

Now we don't have him, we will see if you are right. If the secondary is just as good or if we lose the ability to squeeze opponents into submission by choking out their offense.
Not really anything we can substantially prove one way or the other until we test it without him.

But we can acknowledge that without his contributions, that trip to the SB likely does not happen.

This might sound obvious, but I only said what I said - you read extra into it. No, we won't see if I'm right - we can't replay the 2025 season without Woolen to see if we'd still win, and the 2026 team will be completely different.

I'm glad he's gone and I'm not appreciative - he was one of the few eyesores on the team in 2025. All the great teams have them.

edited to add: also, I appreciate that you're very civil about expressing your opinions, especially with someone whose opinions are very different from yours. And we've seen that there are many here who agree with you. As do the Eagles apparently, and they've got experts making these decisions - many of the GM's make decisions that have us scratching our heads, but they're getting paid a helluva a lot for 32 positions.

 

[Count Hawkula]

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Ram worship? You know I hate the Rams right?
IF I had a monkey's paw and could make a deal where the Rams would miss the playoffs for the next 10 years, with the cost being the Seahawks cannot win or even make a SB for the next 10? I would do that deal in a heartbeat.
I hate them. I almost wish our LB coach HAD beat the ish out of one of their asst coaches in that elevator....instead of having to be held back.

So no. God no. No Rams worship. (Seething Rams hatred? sure)

Second, No we would NOT have made the SB without Riq. (and yes I hate that nickname too) Not really sure how that is debatable. Jobe was getting abused often enough. He just put it together near the end of the year. And for as well as Spoon played in the playoffs? We had plenty of games where his weaknesses were glaring and taken advantage of. For all the problems with Woolen, that he was left on the other side says all you need to know. He was better than the other options. Once he stopped trying for the INTs, he improved bigtime.

And yes, he screwed up in that game. But then again, we had other games where other players screwed up and almost cost the game for us...or did. His screwup did not cost the game. And his play after giving up that TD was solid, saving another TD if I recall correctly. Then again, our defensive coaches screwed up putting him on an island after that BS call, when he was already upset and emotional. Our defensive coaches gave up that TD just as much as he did, because every person in the free world knew the Rams would target him and that he was still distracted. But they stupidly kept him in, AND LEFT HIM ON AN ISLAND. Nobody was shocked when he gave up that TD. That was on the coaches' complete lack of situational awareness on that play.

He is gone so whatever. But it annoys me to no end that people want to pretend he had no role in getting us to that SB. When he had a CRITICAL role. We will find out later, when we suddenly no longer have both sides shutdown so our DL can wreck havoc.

We wouldn't have made the SB without him, period. But people can't even be thankful for the contributions he made in getting us there.

Fair enough. I call it Rams worship, you can call it whatever you want. The amount of Rams envy is just gross, and it's been that way for years.

 

[GemCity]

Riq is the one guy that I believe they didn’t want back. The rest, if the $$ was right….JS and MM likely wanted them back.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Riq has a great year. I’m sure he’s been through an emotional roller coaster. The day after the SB, his agent posted something about moving on (pic of him and Riq ‘walking off with their backs turned’),

Guaranteed that JS was professional about it…and let him know immediately that Riq was going to get better $$ elsewhere.

I think Riq and his agent overestimated what was going to be out there…what he was going to get in terms of ceiling and the number of years.

He may ball out this year. He has the athleticism. His biggest deterrent is his mentality. If he gets that in check for this next season, he may be looking at a longer term contract in Philly.

IF that happens, Philly will have fallen into the trap. Given some contract security, Riq will undoubtedly get lazy and that undisciplined play will strike again.

Philly has nothing to lose by signing him to a one year deal. They will have plenty to lose if he ends up getting extended.

As for Seattle, we already know that what I stated above is true. We know he’s NOT the guy you pay and keep long term.

Barring some massive mentality shift, Riqs resume will always be filled with ‘what if’s’. What if he got his attitude straight? What if he becomes disciplined? What if he tackles better with more/better coaching? What if we can get him to play at his maximum ability?

Bruh’s…JS and MM had seen enough. As fans, we did too.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

On 710, they said the Hawks were trying to get a deal done with Cobe before he hit the market.
They'll get called cheap for it, but we have NO idea what was offered. Mafe, Cobe and K9 all got overpaid, and I'm glad we didn't pay that kind of money. And I like all 3 players. Mafe is by far the most meh of all of them. Dude has to be laughing all the way to the bank. More power to the guy for getting that bag, but he's not close to worth that contract.
As far as Reek goes, it's interesting how when he changed his name, his play dropped.

 

[trharder]

I was suspicious of the phrase "up to" 15 mil.
Turns out I was right. It's 12 mil. This is still way more than he's ever made before in one year, so good for Woolen. https://overthecap.com/player/tariq-woolen/10198

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Glad he's gone though. It also shows that the league doesn't see him as a premier guy at all. Not even close. Some guys are getting 30 a year.

 

[GemCity]

Even at $12M, I’d rather bring in some hungry DBs…guys fighting for a contract as our 3rd and 4th options.

Not a $12M per year rate for a guy that got benched.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

No doubt. JS has done a great job of bringing in guys on 1-year deals who ended up being not only great contributors, but who sign extensions. Shoot, he's done it several times. Not something a "moron" would do.

 

[Natethegreat]

No free agent wants a one year deal and 12 mill isnt great. The league doesnt view him highly.
Probably goes back to why he lasted to round 5.

 

[Seahawkfan80]

On 710, they said the Hawks were trying to get a deal done with Cobe before he hit the market.
They'll get called cheap for it, but we have NO idea what was offered. Mafe, Cobe and K9 all got overpaid, and I'm glad we didn't pay that kind of money. And I like all 3 players. Mafe is by far the most meh of all of them. Dude has to be laughing all the way to the bank. More power to the guy for getting that bag, but he's not close to worth that contract.
As far as Reek goes, it's interesting how when he changed his name, his play dropped.

Will he bring back those 2 letters or not? And will that up his abilities by 2x?