JSN @ 40+ million per?

[SoulfishHawk]

I hope they wait until after the 2026 season but probably won't happen.

 

[Rat]

I've been banging the drum harder than anyone that DK gets a criminally bad rap among Seahawks fans, to the point that it has become straight disrespect, and I genuinely wish we had been able to get something done with him, but even I was concerned about how his game would age. In particular, I worry that with his body type, we might start to see the injuries rack up.

JSN, however, is as safe an extension as they come. He's only 24 and he's already the most cerebral and technically-sound wideout the league has seen in forever. There's no reason to believe he's not going to be very, very good for a very long time. The longer we take to pay him the more it will cost, and after a few years, these contracts hardly never prove to be as debilitating as they looked at first anyway. Pay him. It would be a true shame if this future legend's HOF career involves him wearing any other uniform.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Great points. The restructures, moving money around, etc. SO often, the deal isn't nearly as scary as it sounds at first blush.
Just my OWN though on this, but I can't see any way they replace what he brings to the table for this team.

 

[Trackhawk]

If you think you can replace them in the draft, you might be right.

There’s nothing that says you can’t sign him to a contract commensurate with his value, and trade him if you happen to hit on that draft pick. You also have that draft pick free to use elsewhere, and it doesn’t hurt you as bad if you use it on a wide receiver, who doesn’t pan out

If you let him walk, then you’re stuck. You have to hit on that draft pick.

Whether or not he is the best receiver in the league in terms of technique and statistics is kind of a moot point. I’d much rather have a JSN who is 90% of Puka, then have to deal with Puka’s clear mental descent. (Not saying JSN is only 90% of Puka)

 

[Year of The Hawk]

Love me some JSN and he is worthy of a top dollar contract. But….the overall philosophy of sinking that much money on one player even if he is a generational talent seems risky. Injury always comes into the equation. That would be a lot of money sitting out for however many games. IMHO I would have many good players over one or two elite players. how many ass teams have generational talent but are not winning games? Raiders/Crosby, Browns/Myles Garrett ect. Also it also depends on who else we decide to pay top dollar for on defense. We have some top tier talent on defense. Witherspoon will want (and deserve) a top contract. Emmanwori although several years away will be worth top dollar if he keep it up. There are a lot of variables other than "should he get it". I say pay hime if we can make it work without stripping down to much other talent on the team. Otherwise let him make his snaps elsewhere. I would miss him though.

 

[TraderGary]

I think the only thing you're missing is NONE of that $107M (or $152M with a 5th year) is guaranteed... and therefore your proposal would be a non-starter with Jaxon and his agent.

Otoh, if years one, two, and three were fully guaranteed... $67M in escrow... I believe it would also be a non-starter because Jaxon would not be protected from a serious injury... so a signing bonus would likely become a necessity for Jaxxon and his agent... they would require money up front.

So, let's hypothetically add a 5th year at your suggested $45M... bring the total up to $152M. Top of the market fully guaranteed money for WRs is currently $110M... so let's assume Jaxon would get $115M for the time being.

Now the question becomes... how much signing bonus do you want to give Jaxon and keep his 2026 cap hit somewhat team-friendly (currently projected to be $4.6M). Anything less than $20M would be insulting imo... so let's assume it's $20M, which John and his cap management team would balk it.

What this little exercise tells me is... it makes no good sense to extend Jaxon until after the 2026 season... when the Hawks have the 5th year option to work with salary cap-wise.

The only potential sticking point with waiting is Jaxon's 2026 salary is only $2.7M... not even 2x what he was physically paid in 2025 ($1.55M).

I hear what you're saying, but IIRC, we have the 2nd most cap space of any other team in the league, with a projection of 63M to 73M. We have 4 draft picks, and holes at RG, CB, Possibly RB, and WR to take some of the heat off JSN. I do have high hopes for Horton for the role. An added luxury would be a disruptive OLB/DE who would make this defense downright scary. Someone like a Crosby if he becomes available.

Point being, there's money available to front load JSN's contract with a generous signing bonus and still have enough left over to fill any other holes. It would also lessen the hit in the later years when we don't know what our cap situation will be, and free up money for guys like Emanwori. I realize Spoon also needs to get paid. JS is a master and that's why he gets paid the big bucks to figure these things out.

I'm not a contract guy, and I'm not as young as I used to be, so I may be completely out in left field on this. But it just makes sense to me, both from a team and JSN standpoint.

From a team perspective, they desperately need him to open up the running game. There's no one else on the current roster capable of that. And from a JSN perspective, he would be beyond foolish to risk a debilitating injury and play 2026 under his current contract with no financial security for the future.

I don't see him risking that, and I think that's why both JS and JSN are motivated to get a deal done before next season.

The luxury we have now is that JSN is still playing under his rookie contract. One of the strategies the Mariners have been incorporating for a number of years under Dipoto is to buy out the cheap years of club control, add in the more expensive years on the back end, and average it out over the length of the contract. Granted, baseball money is fully guaranteed, vs NFL contracts which are typically not, which is why you include the generous signing bonus.

 

[TwilightError]

As others have already pointed out, apparently you missed a couple factors while forming your opinion.

We’ll see in the end, barring injury or trade to a shit team, JSN will be in the “all time great” conversation.

ETA:
I’m not talking about Seahawk all time great.

This. It’s his Third season and he has OPOY and All Pro, couple of Pro Bowls too. Everything points towards a Hall of Fame career. I dont want to watch him achieve that in some other team.

 

[SeahawkSteve80]

I’m more comfortable with giving JSN a mega contract over someone like Metcalf.

Imo, JSN is one of the rare talents that you give that big contract to. He’s that valuable

 

[SoulfishHawk]

You don't let guys like JSN go.

 

[Ad Hawk]

Maybe not.

But your SB window may close paying him.

If the option is watching your premier WR make outstanding plays (but not be able to afford other areas of the team) OR have a competitive SB-potential team, and the it really is between these two, which would you choose?

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Again. It sounds like a lot of people just want to get rid of any player coming up on a big contract. News flash: sometimes you have to pay big money to big time players.

 

[SNDavidson]

Six Seven, Forty-Two, mil/per

Anyone already know what the expected cap increase is for `27?

 

[Ad Hawk]

Again. It sounds like a lot of people just want to get rid of any player coming up on a big contract. News flash: sometimes you have to pay big money to big time players.

If you were replying to me, then you're not listening very well. At all. But like usual, Soul, you do you.

Sometimes teams pay big money. But they lose the SB opportunity. Pick your poison.

 

[TwilightError]

Having JSN in his Prime seems, to me, to be an action towards keeping the SB window open. Yes, one can have two cooperkupps with that money, but it will not bring the same impact than a Prime JSN does.

Anyway, I think there is no way they let JSN or Spoon walk. Core players. At the same time it is just as important as always to keep drafting well. Keeping them means we will need rookie deal contributors elsewhere.

 

[TwilightError]

Another reason why JSN should be paid early is that Puca will get paid soon and he will reset the market. So whichever one of these two gets paid first, the other one will demand (and get) more.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

If you were replying to me, then you're not listening very well. At all. But like usual, Soul, you do you.

Sometimes teams pay big money. But they lose the SB opportunity. Pick your poison.

Agree to disagree. It is ok to have my opinion, just like you. You can't just run a team by sending the high paid guys packing. JSN is a MASSIVE part of this team, you don't just go finding guys that can do what he does. And he's all of 24 years old. Legit top 3 WR in the entire league. Team leader. This offense drops significantly w/out him. Spoon is gonna' want a huge contract too, better trade him

 

[Rat]

Maybe not.

But your SB window may close paying him.

That window never would have opened without him, so if you decide to move on, you'd better have a damn good replacement.

 

[Ad Hawk]

That window is open now because many of our stars at important positions are on rookie contracts--Emmanwori, Zabel, Witherspoon, Hall, Charbs, JSN, Walker, and others are on FA contracts probably below their worth or how they played.

I think you confuse me with someone who doesn't want to keep them all. I don't want to let any of them go, especially JSN at receiver. I want to stack players like them at every position! Does he deserve a payday? Of course he does, he's earned it! The question is whether it's wise over all for the Seahawks to be the ones to pay him now or in a couple years.

The team doesn't go to the SB again with JSN and a bunch of scrubs everywhere else (because we cannot pay them). There's only so much money to go around and feeding one player a high % of your salary cap means that one player better be both your star WR and the best CB on the team at the same time.

I get it: teams pay the stars all the time. Injuries can happen to the highly-paid player, too, yet teams pay them and then suffer when they go down.

I'm going to trust JS on this. If he can structure a new deal in a way that keeps other quality players in other positions, and it involves keeping JSN, then I'll be thrilled. JS is a master at contract balance. But it's going to be hard to pay everyone; we've got a lot of worth on the field right now.

 

[flv2]

Another reason why JSN should be paid early is that Puca will get paid soon and he will reset the market. So whichever one of these two gets paid first, the other one will demand (and get) more.

The Rams have a lot of players to negotiate with. I expect the Rams to agree a provisional deal with Nacua fairly early but I don't expect either party to release the contract details until May. Essentially the Rams will wait to see how much cap space they need/want and then adjust the signing bonus accordingly. The Rams don't have a 5th year option available and they don't try to leverage player contracts down in the way that some teams do.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

But the rams don't have a cap so..........