Patriot Fans being delusional part two…

[Jac]

I just don't think they appreciate the significance of us beating the Rams twice in meaningful games. It's just validating, much like the old school New England-Indianapolis or Seattle-SF games were.

 

[IronHawk87]

What I find curious is that when it comes to the patriots offensive struggles it's due to the bad weather. Ok fair enough, but when it comes to the offensive struggles of the teams the patriots played it's because the patriots defense has evolved into an elite unit the likes of which we've never seen before.

So somehow the bad weather only managed to hamper the patriots' elite offense while sparing the other teams.

 

[MORGULON]

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That girl don't have an ass.

 

[50yrpatsfan]

NE opened the season coming off a 4-13 season, with all new faces and coaches. They lost out of the gate against LV, then lost 2 weeks later to Pitt when they fumbled 5x including twice at the goal line. They were moving the ball that first month but it looked like another sub .500 season coming. Since then they've gone 16-1 to everyone's shock. Last place schedule - yes, but they've beaten enough good teams along the way, and many pundits had them losing to the Chargers, then to the Texans, then to the Broncos.

Milton Williams and Christian Barmore are as good as your DT's, plus Tonga thrown in, they'll raise hell with the Hawks' IOL. Front 7 as a whole has been killing it - Walker won't have a big day. Gonzales and Davis are probably better than your corners. Maye is better than Darnold, though Sam's very good and a nice guy. With 2 weeks rest and warm dry weather, Maye will look more like he did during the regular season. Solid group of NE weapons, though nobody like JSN. Coaching is close but the edge goes to NE. I wouldn't underestimate the Patriots, but yet most of you seem to be doing that.

You had some luck beating the Rams cause of their punt returner. But it's obvious the Seahawks are a real good team and the rightful favorite, so we'll see.

 

[Ad Hawk]

Curious why the edge goes to NE on some of these (coaching? Really?) besides you saying it does.

 

[50yrpatsfan]

Curious why the edge goes to NE on some of these (coaching? Really?) besides you saying it does.

The coaching staffs are very close. I'd give Vrabel a slight edge over McDonald due to experience, how far he's brought the Patriots this year, and also having played in 3 SB's, but McDonald has done a helluva job. I'd take Josh McDaniels over Kubiak again due to experience - this is his 7th SB as OC - but Kubiak has a good resume too. The Hawks get the edge at DC for the same reason, as our guy Kuhr is in his 1st year as a play-caller, he's a fill-in cause our DC had to drop out due to prostate cancer.

 

[Rat]

You had some luck beating the Rams cause of their punt returner.

At least the Rams didn't have their backup QB who hadn't played in more than two years out there.

 

[Bobblehead]

Curious why the edge goes to NE on some of these (coaching? Really?) besides you saying it does.

Could be, they have more SB experience(the coaches).. also, was listening to the Radio guys and one of the speakers were talking about defensive scheme run by NE..blitzing and so on.. which Rams didn't employ very much. THinks that is what rattles SD. Didn't say they would win, but that it might be a lot more competitive than what many may think.

 

[hawkfan68]

The coaching staffs are very close. I'd give Vrabel a slight edge over McDonald due to experience, how far he's brought the Patriots this year, and also having played in 3 SB's, but McDonald has done a helluva job. I'd take Josh McDaniels over Kubiak again due to experience - this is his 6th SB as OC - but Kubiak has a good resume too. The Hawks get the edge at DC for the same reason, as our guy Kuhr is in his 1st year as a play-caller, he's a fill-in cause our DC had to drop out due to prostate cancer.

Your team lost to the Raiders...I don't care if it's week 1. It's the Raiders and they only won 3 games all season. Let that sink in.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

EASIEST SCHEDULE IN THE NFL IN OVER 20 YEARS. Don't sit here and act like the Pats didn't have an easy road. Wow
And no, the Hawks did NOT get lucky. You clearly didn't watch the game.

 

[hawkfan68]

Could be, they have more SB experience.. also, was listening to the Radio guys and one of the speakers were talking about defensive scheme run by NE..blitzing and so on.. which Rams didn't employ very much. THinks that is what rattles SD.

Blitzing means less folks in the back to stop JSN, Kupp, and Shaheed. I dare them to blitz. It didn't work for the 49ers.

 

[glenwo2]

I wonder if they actually believe this crap. What on earth makes them think they can pressure Darnold into mistakes more than the Rams, or Texans who he beat soundly.

They have a good defense, but to say it's the hottest in the payoffs? maybe, but who have they played, Allen with no weapons outside of Cook, and a Stidham lead Boncos team.

"I feel like if the Defense can force Darnold into an early mistake with a pick or a sack fumble he will be rattled and fall apart. Both of their playoff games were against teams within his division so there’s that comfort level. Let’s see how he plays against the hottest defense throughout the entire playoffs".

I saw Devin McCourty on ESPN actually sit there and say with a straight face that the reason the Rams lost was because they couldn't get any pressure on Sam Darnold.

.....

..........I'm not kidding.

And he's saying that the Patriots will blitz a lot more on Darnold which will hurt him 'cause he "can't handle pressure".

My god...I hope they blitz a ton then 'cause they'll be playing right into his hands.

For instance, Last year with Minnesota (against the blitz):

• Completions/Attempts: 80/109 (approximately 73.4% completion percentage)
• Passing Yards: 1,084
• Yards per Attempt: 9.9 (led the league)
• Touchdowns: 13
• Interceptions: 1
• Passer Rating: Around 130.8 to 140.4

His completion percentage is not as high with us (69%) this year (against the blitz) but he's still damn effective.

So go right ahead, Vrabel.

Do it. You won't. No balls.

 

[glenwo2]

They should make Joe Montana hand it to us.

Like they made Elway hand the Chiefs one of theirs. That had to hurt Elway deeply.

Joe likes Sam Darnold (I put up a new thread with a tweet of him saying so).

 

[Bobblehead]

Blitzing means less folks in the back to stop JSN, Kupp, and Shaheed. I dare them to blitz. It didn't work for the 49ers.

49ers..DId he even throw a pass in that game?

 

[Bobblehead]

I saw Devin McCourty on ESPN actually sit there and say with a straight face that the reason the Rams lost was because they couldn't get any pressure on Sam Darnold.

.....

..........I'm not kidding.

And he's saying that the Patriots will blitz a lot more on Darnold which will hurt him 'cause he "can't handle pressure".

My god...I hope they blitz a ton then 'cause they'll be playing right into his hands.

For instance, Last year with Minnesota (against the blitz):

• Completions/Attempts: 80/109 (approximately 73.4% completion percentage)
• Passing Yards: 1,084
• Yards per Attempt: 9.9 (led the league)
• Touchdowns: 13
• Interceptions: 1
• Passer Rating: Around 130.8 to 140.4

His completion percentage is not as high with us (69%) this year (against the blitz) but he's still damn effective.

So go right ahead, Vrabel.

Do it. You won't. No balls.

Well the Rams mostly rushed 4 down, but there were a couple times they blized and thats when sam was sacked.

 

[glenwo2]

Well the Rams mostly rushed 4 down, but there were a couple times they blized and thats when sam was sacked.

All 3 of this TDs were under pressure, though.

He was getting battered as soon as he let go of the ball.

The idea that he can't handle pressure is horseshit.

 

[hawkfan68]

49ers..DId he even throw a pass in that game?

He threw one pass for a TD and really that's all he needed to do. He's thrown for over 86 yards in any game he's played.

 

[Bobblehead]

He threw one pass for a TD and really that's all he needed to do. He's thrown for over 86 yards in any game he's played.

Yeah, probably didn't evern have to.lol

 

[Bobblehead]

All 3 of this TDs were under pressure, though.

He was getting battered as soon as he let go of the ball.

The idea that he can't handle pressure is horseshit.

It was amazing to tell you the truth, that he stood in there, and like you said.. soon as he released, he was getting clobbered.

 

[andyh64000]

From patsfans:

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This will be the worst defense the Patriots will have faced in the entire playoffs.

Spot on Tommy... they are an NFCW team and many ppl get caught up in the allure of them being like the legion of boom. Far from them.. that Seattle defense was loaded..

I think they are good..however I personally believe we play better team defense."

"The Patriots defense is on a playoff run nearly at the same level as the 2000 Ravens and 85 Bears."

"The Seahawks may win, but I don't think they are that good of a team. They had no business getting the #1 seed and would've lost week 18 had the 49ers not had the "The Replacements" (not the band) out there. Like the AFC, NFC was pretty weak. Rams should've at least had a chance to win last Sunday if not for McVay's awful decision going for it with over 5 minutes to play and 3 timeouts."

"Darnold doesn't scare me.. Seattle defense is good but let's not get them confused with the legion of Boom.
Patiots defense is playing at another level and is elite."

"The Seattle I'd say is lesser of the defenses we have seen so far IMO.. offense bounces back this game."

"The Seahawks defense's stats and rep has been propped up by playing a lot of average to below average to awful QBs"