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I mean I know folks only read what they want to read. Thats how it works around here. But truth is I never once commented on his career outside Seattle.

I said the majority of his career here , he was playing at a pro bowl level. I also said he was an exemplary teammate, and a great representative of this organization. Again for the people in the back, what he did outside of Seattle is none of my concern, nor do I care.

Did his play fall off once he left here? Yes, but i dont care, because ot didnt effect my team. so I never commented on it nor did I claim his play didnt decline.

But let's not sit here and pretend thay douchbag Peyton ever gave him a fighting chance. And the giants? Nuff said.
Ok so you don't care about his career outside of Seattle but yet you want give him all the credit for the winning in Seattle and blame everything that went wrong with the offense only on Pete. :rolleyes:
 

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I never said I give all the credit to wilson for anything, show the post where I said that please.

I said was he was a great QB, a good teammate, an exemplary representative of this franchis in the community while he was here.

And facts are facts. Pete lost us the next SB, broke up the band, and has been chasing that same magic every year and has failed miserably. After 2014 Pete was ineffective as a coach, and should have been given his walking papers years ago.
Here we are back to blaming Pete for everything that went wrong for Russ
 

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Ok so you don't care about his career outside of Seattle but yet you want give him all the credit for the winning in Seattle and blame everything that went wrong with the offense only on Pete. :rolleyes:
Again show me where I blamed everything on Carroll and gave RW all the credit. I'll wait.

Once you do, I'll then show you the post where I said the LOB and Lynch were the reason we got to the SB and won. And yes I give Pete credit for putting that team together.

Again I said, after 2014 when he blew the SB in historic fashion , is when he started his decline. Which means there was 3 seasons I give him credit for.
Maybe you should go back and re-read my post before you falsely put words in my mouth. Good grief.
 

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His fault or his decision?
Doesn't matter to me. I'm not sure we'll ever know all the details to his request for a trade, but his departure was at his request.

I'll say this: Russ knows he fuct up. He had a Hall of Fame trajectory, then he didn't. Because he left.
 

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Doesn't matter to me. I'm not sure we'll ever know all the details to his request for a trade, but his departure was at his request.

I'll say this: Russ knows he fuct up. He had a Hall of Fame trajectory, then he didn't. Because he left.
Left or got ran out? Like his career wasnt going to flourish here under a coach who never invested in the trenches. Please.
 
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Again show me where I blamed everything on Carroll and gave RW all the credit. I'll wait.

Once you do, I'll then show you the post where I said the LOB and Lynch were the reason we got to the SB and won. And yes I give Pete credit for putting that team together.

Again I said, after 2014 when he blew the SB in historic fashion , is when he started his decline. Which means there was 3 seasons I give him credit for.
Maybe you should go back and re-read my post before you falsely put words in my mouth. Good grief.
So calling Pete a fool and saying he ignored improving the O-line isn't blaming it all on Pete? What proof do you have that Pete didn't try to give Russ a good O-line to work with?
 

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Remember when the Broncos went from bottom third OL to statistically the best in the league, after only switching centers to a fifth rounder they drafted two years earlier, and switching out Russ with a rookie QB?

Weird how he ALWAYS has a bad OL. He must be the unluckiest QB ever. Or maybe the problem isn't everyone else.
 

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So calling Pete a fool and saying he ignored improving the O-line isn't blaming it all on Pete? What proof do you have that Pete didn't try to give Russ a good O-line to work with?
Whats my proof? Every Draft he was a part of after 2014.

Because he drafted defensive lineman and tried to convert them into Oline. He drafted a corner back when he could of had a generational talent in Carter. And then followed that with a reciever, when we desperately needed help in the trenches. I could go on and on but what's the point.

So ya, I think he's is a fool, and ya he ignored the trenches. To say he didnt is just not being honest and quite frankly makes you sound like a homer.

Was it all Petes fault? Of course not. But he sure played a big part in the downward spiral of this franchise during the early 2020s.

But believe what you want, I'm done with this conversation.
 
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Because he drafted defensive lineman and tried to convert them into Oline. He drafted a corner back when he could of had a generational talent in Carter. And then followed that with a reciever, when we desperately needed help in the trenches. I could go on and on but what's the point.

So ya, I think he's is a fool, and ya he ignored the trenches. To say he didnt is just not being honest and quite frankly makes you sound like a homer.

Was it all Petes fault? Of course not. But he sure played a big part in the downward spiral of this franchise during the late 2020s.

But believe what you want, I'm done with this conversation.
and Russ couldn't make any presnap reads or step up in the pocket when he actually did have time. He also held on to the ball way too long. Russ played a big part in the O-line looking like trash as well. You sound like a homer for Russell.
 

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and Russ couldn't make any presnap reads or step up in the pocket when he actually did have time. He also held on to the ball way too long. Russ played a big part in the O-line looking like trash as well. You sound like a homer for Russell.
All the old talking points, nice work. You forgot he was too short. 👍
 

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Russ throws the pass. Enough said.
He wouldn't have thrown it if Pete and Bevel weren't idiots and just handed the ball to Lynch. Even Carroll puts that blunder square in his own shoulders. But you continue with the Pete circle jerk. Not making you look like a fool at all. 😳
 

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He wouldn't have thrown it if Pete and Bevel weren't idiots and just handed the ball to Lynch. Even Carroll puts that blunder square in his own shoulders. But you continue with the Pete circle jerk. Not making you look like a fool at all. 😳

Rigghhttttt, I'm the fool when you are doing the same thing with Pete that you accuse Wilson haters of doing. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 

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I know it doesn't make sense to you since you can't see anything past how great you think Wilson is. Have a wonderful night (y)
Lol, I couldn't give two shits about RW. I don't think he's great at all. I think he was great when he played here. And his stats will back that up.

But you obviously can't distinguish the difference between the past and present and that's ok. Emotions are tough. I get it. Go Raiders. Ooops, Too soon?
 
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