The "credible opponent" narrative

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Yep, the 9rs with a HC that's been there for quite a while and player continuity squeaked out a win against a second year HC and new OC by what 4 points?
they had all of training camp to figure to offense out. They put up 31 points week 2. I just think it's funny that you guys are criticizing the media for the "credible opponent" theory but in the same thread making excuses against the credible opponents.

You talk about player continuity but 1/2 the niners defense week one was new and they were the major reason for the win
 

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they had all of training camp to figure to offense out. They put up 31 points week 2. I just think it's funny that you guys are criticizing the media for the "credible opponent" theory but in the same thread making excuses against the credible opponents.

You talk about player continuity but 1/2 the niners defense week one was new and they were the major reason for the win

Week #1 was the starting offense's first game together with a new offensive coordinator and starting quarterback (i.e., they only played a couple series across the preseason). Kubiak also called a strange game. FWIW, this was one of the two quality wins by the 49ers this season such as it was, so project away based on this result.
 

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they had all of training camp to figure to offense out. They put up 31 points week 2. I just think it's funny that you guys are criticizing the media for the "credible opponent" theory but in the same thread making excuses against the credible opponents.

You talk about player continuity but 1/2 the niners defense week one was new and they were the major reason for the win
Of course you don't follow Seattle enough to know that 7 of those 31 points were falling on a ball in the endzone. Not the O. And week 1 the Niners D being "half new". Seattle: New OC, new QB, new #2 WR. We could do this all day.
 

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I don't thing there's a more pessimistic group of fans that Seahawk fans. Even when we're doing well, we manufacture a reason to not believe in it. And full disclosure, I'm guilty of it too. It's kind of amusing.

Between that and cries of east coast bias. National broadcasts are praising Seattle yet it's not enough for Seahawk fan.
 

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100% agree

Yesterday Texans barely beat Raiders and Texans were at home

Were they playing bad all of a sudden? Are we supposed to count how good they were playing on a week by week basis? or should we acknowledge that the makeup and coaching of teams makes them better against some opponents and worse against others?

Seattle barely beat Colts with a backup old QB - were we that bad or did the Colts figure some things out?
Agree.

All 32 teams can win on any given Sunday.
 
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Niners played you week one. You were healthy and so were we. "weren't as good" is just a bad excuse. You were plenty good against the Steelers week two
This is absolutely stupid.

Kubiak called a game where he handcuffed the entire offense 98% and only opened things up a bit late in the 4th quarter.

BTW, he called only 1 playaction Pass all game.

*ONE*.

And it still took a big Bosa play late in the game for your sh*tty Niners team to escape with a win.

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This is absolutely stupid.

Kubiak called a game where he handcuffed the entire offense 98% and only opened things up a bit late in the 4th quarter.

BTW, he called only 1 playaction Pass all game.

*ONE*.

And it still took a big Bosa play late in the game for your sh*tty Niners team to escape with a win.

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So if you are making crappy excuses I will as well. Kittle was out for 85 percent of the game and Purdy injured his toe seriously impacting his plant foot
 
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So if you are making crappy excuses I will as well. Kittle was out for 85 percent of the game and Purdy injured his toe seriously impacting his plant foot
It's not crappy excuses.

The gameplan between Game 1 and Game 2 (and onward) is night and day.

Would've scored far more than just 13 points against you guys if Kubiak didn't outsmart himself and overestimate Saleh.

I know you don't give a s--t since it's the Hawks and you worry yourself about the niners (which makes sense 'cause..duh!) but yeah. Night and day, man.
 

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It's not crappy excuses.

The gameplan between Game 1 and Game 2 (and onward) is night and day.

Would've scored far more than just 13 points against you guys if Kubiak didn't outsmart himself and overestimate Saleh.

I know you don't give a s--t since it's the Hawks and you worry yourself about the niners (which makes sense 'cause..duh!) but yeah. Night and day, man.
So have a better game plan?
 

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It's not crappy excuses.

The gameplan between Game 1 and Game 2 (and onward) is night and day.

Would've scored far more than just 13 points against you guys if Kubiak didn't outsmart himself and overestimate Saleh.

I know you don't give a s--t since it's the Hawks and you worry yourself about the niners (which makes sense 'cause..duh!) but yeah. Night and day, man.
Also it’s not as though your offense has been on fire every game all season. There were a few defensive battles in several games this season. Game one was just the same thing
 
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Also it’s not as though your offense has been on fire every game all season. There were a few defensive battles in several games this season. Game one was just the same thing
Eh. Again...1 Playaction Pass all game.

Darnold excels in Playaction. (this wasn't a new development. He's been good at doing that his entire career)

So like I said : Kubiak handcuffed Darnold and the offense for most of the game.
 
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The game was a "Defensive battle" because Kubiak made it so with him calling a stupid game.

Whatever, though. We'll see when week 18 comes how the Niners defend the actual gameplan.

Based on how the Niners have been giving Rivers all day to throw (with next-to-zero pass rush), I wouldn't be popping the champagne cork if I was a niners fan with 1 seed aspirations....
 

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Also it’s not as though your offense has been on fire every game all season. There were a few defensive battles in several games this season. Game one was just the same thing
You completely missed the point. Has nothing to do with the offense being on fire or having to adjust to defensive game plans late season. Week 1 the game was called completely different than every other game this season. The 49ers had the same coach calling the offense for years, with the same QB and most of the same players from last year. We had new OC, new QB, new #1 WR, new OL coach, 3 new OL starters, etc. They all have chemistry now and Kubiak is much more in tune with his play calling.

Week 1 games are the most worthless games to judge teams by, especially when dealing with news coaches and QBs. The Raiders beat the Patriots for crying out loud.
 
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The game was a "Defensive battle" because Kubiak made it so with him calling a stupid game.

Whatever, though. We'll see when week 18 comes how the Niners defend the actual gameplan.

Based on how the Niners have been giving Rivers all day to throw (with next-to-zero pass rush), I wouldn't be popping the champagne cork if I was a niners fan with 1 seed aspirations....
It’s not anywhere near the same strength defense as week one. They have 16 sacks all season
 
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It’s not anywhere near the same strength defense as week one. They have 16 sacks all season
Of course it isn't the same strength.

You lost your main source of a Pass rush for the season (Bosa).
 
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So if you are making crappy excuses I will as well. Kittle was out for 85 percent of the game and Purdy injured his toe seriously impacting his plant foot

Speaking of whom....He was limping right there. Not a good sign, bud.
 
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