The "credible opponent" narrative

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I suppose. But how they are playing now has nothing to do with how they weren't playing well when we faced them.
 

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I suppose. But how they are playing now has nothing to do with how they weren't playing well when we faced them.
That's the spirit!!!!
Dear God, it never ends. We beat a team that turns out to be a pretty damn good team. Nope, not good enough!!

/sarcasm


Here's a thought....maybe just maybe the Hawks outplaying those teams had something to do with it? And they ABSOLUTELY outplayed all but the Rams.
 

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I think its overstated for sure. We've beaten as many good teams as most teams. If we beat The Panthers and Niners there are two more as well.
 

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That's the spirit!!!!
Dear God, it never ends. We beat a team that turns out to be a pretty damn good team. Nope, not good enough!!

/sarcasm


Here's a thought....maybe just maybe the Hawks outplaying those teams had something to do with it? And they ABSOLUTELY outplayed all but the Rams.

First, we are 12 and 3, so there is no doubt we are an elite team. Nobody is downplaying how good we are because they simply acknowledge we had good timing in some of our wins.

Second, teams don't always start the year the way they end it. There is such a thing as catching a team at the right time.

If you wanna pretend that we haven't benefited from luck and timing. That's cool. The reality is both things are true. We are really good and we played a few teams when they weren't as good as they are now. Houston is a great example. They sucked before we played them. Same with Pittsburgh, maybe not to the degree Houston was stinking things up, but they weren't even picked to win their division until the last 3 weeks or so for how inconsistent they were.
 

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I think its overstated for sure. We've beaten as many good teams as most teams. If we beat The Panthers and Niners there are two more as well.

Yep. Considering the Panthers have won games vs the Rams and Packers this year there's no way anyone should be down-playing a win over them. On that note that game will be no gimme. I'm confident MacDonald will have them ready and they will need to be.
 

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We have a strength of victory of 0.447. Of all likely playoff teams only the Jags (0.466), Rams (0.515), Panthers (0.458) and Bucs (0.471). Of course the Bucs and Panthers have won 4 and 5 less games than us which means that really, comparatively, only the Rams and Jags are in the same ballpark.

And of course we've beaten both of those teams too.
 

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First, we are 12 and 3, so there is no doubt we are an elite team. Nobody is downplaying how good we are because they simply acknowledge we had good timing in some of our wins.

Second, teams don't always start the year the way they end it. There is such a thing as catching a team at the right time.

If you wanna pretend that we haven't benefited from luck and timing. That's cool. The reality is both things are true. We are really good and we played a few teams when they weren't as good as they are now. Houston is a great example. They sucked before we played them. Same with Pittsburgh, maybe not to the degree Houston was stinking things up, but they weren't even picked to win their division until the last 3 weeks or so for how inconsistent they were.

And the Niners and Bucs played us when we weren't as good and healthy as we are now too. So it's all swings and roundabouts really.
 

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We can only play the teams on our schedule. 🤷‍♂️
Yep. It's always the same thing. When the Hawks win it's because the other team had injuries, blah blah blah.
When the Clams or 29ers win, they're amazing, perfect, blah blah blah.

It's hilarious, and I'm here for it. The Hawks RARELY can win a game w/out people downplaying it.

Cool, looking forward to more downplaying of wins to come.
 

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First, we are 12 and 3, so there is no doubt we are an elite team. Nobody is downplaying how good we are because they simply acknowledge we had good timing in some of our wins.

Second, teams don't always start the year the way they end it. There is such a thing as catching a team at the right time.

If you wanna pretend that we haven't benefited from luck and timing. That's cool. The reality is both things are true. We are really good and we played a few teams when they weren't as good as they are now. Houston is a great example. They sucked before we played them. Same with Pittsburgh, maybe not to the degree Houston was stinking things up, but they weren't even picked to win their division until the last 3 weeks or so for how inconsistent they were.
Yes, you are downplaying it. And that's fine, we all see it how we want to see it.

Other teams win games when they play a team at the "right time"
It's just flat out CORNY, TO ME, that's all. Nothing more. Who gives a flying....when you play a team? You either win or you don't, nothing else matters. Welcome to the NFL, sometimes you get to play a team w/a backup, EVERY team gets breaks like that. Still gotta' play the games.
Since when did this become the BCS? Seriously. And WHY is it that "we played them at the right time" instead of the Hawks whipped their butts on the field????? At some point THAT is a real factor.

We can agree to disagree. It's f'ing ridiculous TO ME that you can't just enjoy wins. They're 12-3 and are sitting in the 1 seed.


Never mind, I just can't do this crap anymore. I'll happily bow out of this ridiculous never good enough crap. FFS, we're 12-3. This whole thing is just odd. TO ME.

Go Hawks
 
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And the Niners and Bucs played us when we weren't as good and healthy as we are now too. So it's all swings and roundabouts really.
Niners played you week one. You were healthy and so were we. "weren't as good" is just a bad excuse. You were plenty good against the Steelers week two
 
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