49ers taking over Lumen

[Mase]

-- I hope they get it to 60% Niner fans, we played better on the road last year anyway. Plus all those tears at the end will help wash the popcorn off the stairs.

-- The secondary market has a role, allowing fans to see "their" team entertainer anywhere in the country. But their pricing structure has pushed lower income folks out, and motivated others to become facilitators for the Vivids and StubHubs. Those markets are the ones that could help teams police their season ticket holders, but I highly doubt they will help.

-- A team should be able to get data on anytime a ticket to their home stadium is sold on the sites. I don't think having better Season ticket holder gifts would do anything, but having them stripped if you sell more than half of your tickets in a year would have an effect. And everyone has the sob stories about being injured, or not well enough to go to every game, but you can't set policy based on anecdotes.

-- The "you bought it you own it" theory is cute, but it's not real. The creator of the asset, partly because it is still on their property, can set guidelines and expectations. Like you paid for a full season, but get caught throwing a snowball and they can ban you and revoke your seats. Not exactly your's, huh?

Mase

 

[FLSeahawk]

Here's some random copies and pastes from various articles on the subject:

Yes, there’s a noticeable decline in sports interest—especially in youth participation—but it’s a nuanced picture.

Here’s what the data and experts are saying:

Youth Sports Are Losing Ground​

• Participation among kids aged 6–12 dropped from 45% in 2008 to just 37% in 2022.
• A study found that only 39% of high school seniors were involved in organized sports, down from nearly 90% in middle school.
• Football, once dominant in the U.S., has seen a sharp drop in youth and high school participation—from 2.5 million players in 2008 to under 1.9 million by 2019.

According to a 2021 study, only 23% of Generation Z describe themselves as passionate sports fans, as opposed to 42% of millennials, 33% of Generation X and 31% of baby boomers.

Further, a sizable 27% of Gen Z describe themselves as “anti-sports,” compared with single-digit percentages from other generations saying the same.

Football in particular, due to the declining participation rates, is heading towards marginalization. Safety issues and costs are turning more and more kids and parents of kids away from participating. It's a complicated game compared to other sports, and if a person hasn't played it and learned the game from the ground up as many of us did, they are less likely to become fans.

Anyhow, it's a good topic and deserving of its own thread.

Wow I had no idea. Thanks for the post.

Down here in Florida it seems like everyone’s sons play football, baseball, or soccer but that could just be my local area… I will say kids sports are freaking industries down here and have to be pricing families out of putting their kids in sports. It’s outrageous what some of my friends pay to have their kids on certain teams.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

They're not taking over sh**

They always bring a big crowd, that has always been the case. Meh. Get that W and watch how quick they run to the exits.

 

[toffee]

They're not taking over sh**

They always bring a big crowd, that has always been the case. Meh. Get that W and watch how quick they run the exits.

It's a matter of starting to run for the exits in 3rd or 4th quarter.

 

[AROS]

I'll be there. It's really all that matters.

 

[m0ng0]

Seattle has always been a bandwagon town

 

[CalgaryFan05]

"The Seahawks say their numbers show that report is inaccurate. The team says it expects about 7% of roughly 69,000-seat Lumen Field to be filled by 49ers fans who bought Seahawks tickets."

Read more at: https://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/nfl/seattle-seahawks/article311976844.html#storylink=cpy

Buried in a somewhat unrelated article......

 

[RiverDog]

Wow I had no idea. Thanks for the post.

Down here in Florida it seems like everyone’s sons play football, baseball, or soccer but that could just be my local area… I will say kids sports are freaking industries down here and have to be pricing families out of putting their kids in sports. It’s outrageous what some of my friends pay to have their kids on certain teams.

No sweat. I'm glad some of you guys liked it.

It's really no surprise to me. Back in the 70's, we had an entire conference of community college teams in the state of WA alone that played football. Now, not a single CC plays football. We had two small college (NAIA) conferences in WA, OR, and ID, the Evergreen Conference and Northwest Conference. Now, there are 4 small colleges (CWU, PLU, UPS, and Whitworth) in WA that still play football (not counting EWU, which is a BCS school).

Referencing my own interest in sports, I played football, basketball, and baseball from grade school age well into adulthood, and as a consequence, I've been a huge fan of those three sports. I've never played hockey or soccer and know next to nothing about it and could care less about their games. You take that many participants out of football and start including parents, brothers and sisters, girlfriends, et al, and it's inevitable that overall interest will decline.

Like I said, it's a good subject deserving of its own thread.

 

[Ostatehawk]

First and Foremost - F the niners directly in their collective sphincters.

Always be gracious to visiting fans - unless they are assholes - but the taste of their tears shed in defeat are like sweet sweet nectar.

Enjoy them this Sunday.

 

[RiverDog]

"The Seahawks say their numbers show that report is inaccurate. The team says it expects about 7% of roughly 69,000-seat Lumen Field to be filled by 49ers fans who bought Seahawks tickets."

Read more at: https://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/nfl/seattle-seahawks/article311976844.html#storylink=cpy

Buried in a somewhat unrelated article......

There's a paywall on the TNT website, so here's a copy and paste from that article of the relevant info:

A report by the 49ers reporter for The San Francisco Standard this week got a lot of attention: "For the first time ever, 49ers fans are expected to be the majority in.... Seattle. Vivid Seats (an online ticket seller) projects 53% of the crowd on Sunday will be 49ers fans," The Standard's David Lombardi posted on X/Twitter.

The Seahawks say their numbers show that report is inaccurate. The team says it expects about 7% of roughly 69,000-seat Lumen Field to be filled by 49ers fans who bought Seahawks tickets.

Within that 7%, ticket-tracking numbers by the team showed that as of Thursday 24% of the 100-level seats behind San Francisco's bench have been sold to Niners fans.

That number was 40% last season when the 49ers won at Seattle in October.

The Seahawks have about 63,000 season-ticket holders, plus a waiting list they call the "Blue Pride" list of 12,000 more wanting to buy season tickets.

The team leaves approximately 6,000 tickets available for each home game for fans to purchase on a single-game basis.

MSN

 

[HawkinNY]

Everyone who sold their seats to a 49er fan should lose their season tickets for next year. ESP opening game. Can’t stand people who get tickets just to make money.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I wouldn't sell my ticket to an opposing fan for 3 times face value. Nope

 

[CalgaryFan05]

There's a paywall on the TNT website, so here's a copy and paste from that article of the relevant info:

A report by the 49ers reporter for The San Francisco Standard this week got a lot of attention: "For the first time ever, 49ers fans are expected to be the majority in.... Seattle. Vivid Seats (an online ticket seller) projects 53% of the crowd on Sunday will be 49ers fans," The Standard's David Lombardi posted on X/Twitter.

The Seahawks say their numbers show that report is inaccurate. The team says it expects about 7% of roughly 69,000-seat Lumen Field to be filled by 49ers fans who bought Seahawks tickets.

Within that 7%, ticket-tracking numbers by the team showed that as of Thursday 24% of the 100-level seats behind San Francisco's bench have been sold to Niners fans.

That number was 40% last season when the 49ers won at Seattle in October.

The Seahawks have about 63,000 season-ticket holders, plus a waiting list they call the "Blue Pride" list of 12,000 more wanting to buy season tickets.

The team leaves approximately 6,000 tickets available for each home game for fans to purchase on a single-game basis.

MSN

thanks for that - I didn't see a paywall....

 

[SocialParasite]

I'll be there. It's really all that matters.

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[RiverDog]

thanks for that - I didn't see a paywall....

It wasn't really a paywall. They wanted me to disable my ad blocker, so I just highlighted what I could, hit search, and found it on my MSN feed. It's a good method of dodging that crap.

 

[toffee]

Here's some random copies and pastes from various articles on the subject:

Yes, there’s a noticeable decline in sports interest—especially in youth participation—but it’s a nuanced picture.

Here’s what the data and experts are saying:

Youth Sports Are Losing Ground​

• Participation among kids aged 6–12 dropped from 45% in 2008 to just 37% in 2022.
• A study found that only 39% of high school seniors were involved in organized sports, down from nearly 90% in middle school.
• Football, once dominant in the U.S., has seen a sharp drop in youth and high school participation—from 2.5 million players in 2008 to under 1.9 million by 2019.

According to a 2021 study, only 23% of Generation Z describe themselves as passionate sports fans, as opposed to 42% of millennials, 33% of Generation X and 31% of baby boomers.

Further, a sizable 27% of Gen Z describe themselves as “anti-sports,” compared with single-digit percentages from other generations saying the same.

Football in particular, due to the declining participation rates, is heading towards marginalization. Safety issues and costs are turning more and more kids and parents of kids away from participating. It's a complicated game compared to other sports, and if a person hasn't played it and learned the game from the ground up as many of us did, they are less likely to become fans.

Anyhow, it's a good topic and deserving of its own thread.

The orthopedic in the family wouldn't advise or allow our kids to play football due to the high rate of injury risks. He was the orthopedic for a SEC football team, so we respect his opinions.

 

[94Smith]

Well add one 49er fan to the mix . My friend who has season tickets just invited me as the person he was taking backed out … coming from BC

 

[Atradees]

-- ...all those tears at the end will help wash the popcorn off the stairs.

hahah

 

[RiverDog]

The orthopedic in the family wouldn't advise or allow our kids to play football due to the high rate of injury risks. He was the orthopedic for a SEC football team, so we respect his opinions.

It's ironic as my dad wouldn't let me go snow skiing or ride a motorcycle for fear of injury, yet he was enthusiastic about my playing football. But he played football in the days of the leather helmets and no face masks, so the era I played football in probably seemed pretty safe to him.

 

[AROS]

Well add one 49er fan to the mix . My friend who has season tickets just invited me as the person he was taking backed out … coming from BC

You’ve been a non-volatile 9ers fan and guest here for awhile. If the mood strikes you, feel free to stop by Temple Billiards (2nd and Jackson, two blocks dead north of the stadium) and we can chat about our respective teams over a drink. I’ll be wearing a Seahawks jersey with AROS on the back.