PFF 2025 QB Rankings (Projected) - such garbage

[GemCity]

And I'll just put it like this....

If Milroe sees the field as a QB during the regular season, it will be either because :

1.) It's a blowout Seahawks win and MM decided to toss him out there to get his feet wet

or

2.) Sam Darnold got hurt but Drew Lock is ineffective in relief.


Otherwise, aside from the "Milroe Package" being talked about, I don't see him being the QB this season (or even next season depending on how Darnold does).

Fair. I’ve estimated by ‘27.

We shall see!

 

[Sperrydogg]

Fair. I’ve estimated by ‘27.

We shall see!

Milroe actually becoming the starter at any point would be fun

 

[toffee]

At work, we often paid for outside consultants for their evaluation of stuff we knew well, as that was stuff we do every day with a high level of success. Outside consultants for not biased, and a different perspective.

Teams, from front office to coaches, utilize PFF the same way.

As for Sam Darnold and Geno Smith:

For Sam, after a wonderful season, the Vikings passed on him, as well as other teams, well, almost all the teams that needed a QB. Could all the scouts and coaches be wrong? Absolutely. Would the opinions from all the scouts and coaches affect his ranking? ya betcha.

For Geno, remarkably similar to Darnold as his service wasn't in demand from other QB-needing teams. There was no bidding war or lol, multiple offers.

Both Sam Darnold and Geno Smith are in a better place this season. As both Seahawks and Raiders will do whatever is necessary to make Darnold and Geno a success. In fans talk, both QBs will enjoy a season where they are loved by their teams.

 

[toffee]

I think the eagles showed how an elite team can destroy an elite quarterback

You nailed it.

 

[glenwo2]

Fair. I’ve estimated by ‘27.

We shall see!

Yeah I'm looking at it like this :


Darnold has two seasons to win a Superbowl here.

If he does, then he's the QB going forward for the next 8-10 years.

If he doesn't, then we move on to Milroe.

(or is that too high of a bar to clear for Sam?)

 

[glenwo2]

Milroe actually becoming the starter at any point would be fun

I would be stunned (pleasantly so) if that happened.

And if he did so while Darnold was healthy?

Then we have Lamar Jackson 2.0 here.

But I think that's just pie-in-the-sky thinking.


Reality is that he'll be ready the earliest in 2027 or something...

 

[Smellyman]

I would be stunned (pleasantly so) if that happened.

And if he did so while Darnold was healthy?

Then we have Lamar Jackson 2.0 here.

But I think that's just pie-in-the-sky thinking.


Reality is that he'll be ready the earliest in 2027 or something...

 

[rjdriver]

Wait…

Did I read the original post correctly?

A guy who won 14 games last year is five spots below his backup who:

1. Was the fifth QB taken in his draft class.
2. Has never thrown an NFL regular season pass. Literally . Ever.
3. Is coming off a complete tear/rebuild of his meniscus.

I color myself pretty objective to criticism against my Seahawks , but this shit is comedic.

 

[MD5eahawks]

Those last two games with the Vikings had quite an impact.

 

[Trackhawk]

Wait…

Did I read the original post correctly?

A guy who won 14 games last year is five spots below his backup who:

1. Was the fifth QB taken in his draft class.
2. Has never thrown an NFL regular season pass. Literally . Ever.
3. Is coming off a complete tear/rebuild of his meniscus.

I color myself pretty objective to criticism against my Seahawks , but this shit is comedic.

You should probably read the original article. It really didn’t rank McCarthy as better than Darnold. It said that young new guys have a higher potential (as a group) than old, replaceable vets, who have flashed in the past. Then, it ranked the QBs that fit into those categories.

It’s a fluke of the methodology they used, and it’s based on predicted future performance of the groups, not historical performance.

It’s not entirely unreasonable to say that, all things considered, a gamble on McCarthy is better than a gamble on Darnold, at this point.

 

[Runscott]

The text they wrote is correct. Was Darnold uniquely suited to the Vikings and he will revert to the player he was for the Panthers and Jets is a legitimate question. It is quite possible that Darnold does revert to his 2018-23 errors in which case a rank of 26th might be right but that is his floor. If we see 2024 Darnold he will be ranked about 12.

On one side we see fan excitement that we are actually gointg to compete this year. On the other you see Veges predicting 7.5 wins (an staying there so the betting public think they got it right) and articles like this. I think the truth is somewhere between the two, we could be going something like 13-4 if the offence really fires but we could also be looking at a 7-10. I think mostl likely it is something inbetween, Darnold is a middle of the road QB, we might squeek into the play-offs but have little chance of progressing if we do.

I think Jalen Milroe could make it more difficult for opponents to prepare for Darnold. Gino did a lot with an average team. Darnold did a lot with a good team. Gino wasn't going to get us through the playoffs. A Darnold/Milroe combination might. My concern is that MacDonald is defensive-minded and Milroe might end up riding the bench.

But I'm excited about this year and plan to be at every game, including the pre-season. It will be a crucial part of my exercise program - climbing up and down from the top of the stadium.

 

[glenwo2]

Wait…

Did I read the original post correctly?

A guy who won 14 games last year is five spots below his backup who:

1. Was the fifth QB taken in his draft class.
2. Has never thrown an NFL regular season pass. Literally . Ever.
3. Is coming off a complete tear/rebuild of his meniscus.

I color myself pretty objective to criticism against my Seahawks , but this shit is comedic.

I think the fact that the QB he's replacing here is ranked #10 is just as comedic as well.

Oh and did you notice they even have Cam Ward ranked ahead of him, too.

It's absolute disrespect on a massive scale.

 

[glenwo2]

Those last two games with the Vikings had quite an impact.

Yeah. Most UNREASONABLY so, if you ask me.

Guy wins 14 games but people act like the Regular season consisted of just one game (the Lions game, despite some saying it was basically a playoff game...was still a regular season game).

And the playoff game was just as much Kevin 'O Connell getting his ass out-coached by McVay than it was anything Darnold did.

I can't understand why Darnold seems to be held to a higher standard than any other QB and why he's not afforded the same LEEWAY that others get? smh.

 

[bileever]

Wait…

Did I read the original post correctly?

A guy who won 14 games last year is five spots below his backup who:

1. Was the fifth QB taken in his draft class.
2. Has never thrown an NFL regular season pass. Literally . Ever.
3. Is coming off a complete tear/rebuild of his meniscus.

I color myself pretty objective to criticism against my Seahawks , but this shit is comedic.

I really don't think that McCarthy's ranking makes any sense. He hasn't played in a single real NFL game yet.

However, McCarthy wasn't Darnold's backup at Minnesota. McCarthy was supposed to be the starter until he got hurt in preseason.

The only part of the situation that gives me pause is that I think that Kevin O'Connell is as good a talent evaluator as anyone in the league, and the fact that he chose an unproven McCarthy over Darnold says one of two things: either (1) he's very high on McCarthy or (2) he doesn't think much of Darnold. I think it's more likely the former than the latter.

 

[toffee]

Regardless of PFF rank, on the all-important .NET ranking, Darnold is a solid top-10 QB in the league.

 

[glenwo2]

Regardless of PFF rank, on the all-important .NET ranking, Darnold is a solid top-10 QB in the league.

Good thing you said Top-10.

I would've been hard-pressed to figure out whether you were being sarcastic or not if you said he was around 16-18.

 

[glenwo2]

I really don't think that McCarthy's ranking makes any sense. He hasn't played in a single real NFL game yet.

However, McCarthy wasn't Darnold's backup at Minnesota. McCarthy was supposed to be the starter until he got hurt in preseason.

The only part of the situation that gives me pause is that I think that Kevin O'Connell is as good a talent evaluator as anyone in the league, and the fact that he chose an unproven McCarthy over Darnold says one of two things: either (1) he's very high on McCarthy or (2) he doesn't think much of Darnold. I think it's more likely the former than the latter.

or (3) The plan was ALWAYS to start McCarthy and that Sam was there on borrowed time from the get-go.

Sam would've had to have won the SuperBowl for them to deviate from that plan.

 

[toffee]

Good thing you said Top-10.

I would've been hard-pressed to figure out whether you were being sarcastic or not if you said he was around 16-18.

I disrespected Darnold, using PFF's own passing rating, he was top 8.

 

[toffee]

If he doesn't, then we move on to Milroe.

Or Drew Lock, he just needs opportunity and better coach. He had five TDs in one game last season.

 

[glenwo2]

Or Drew Lock, he just needs opportunity and better coach. He had five TDs in one game last season.

^^^ Drew Lock