Geno traded!

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I'd prefer Ewers to Dart. Dart is going to need an eternity before he's anywhere near the realm of ready to lead a team with expectations. It's crazy to me how overrated that guy has become. I'll bet if his name was Jaxson Smith, he'd be considered a fifth-round prospect.
I honestly haven’t taken a look at any of the upcoming draft QBs. Given JS’ draft history and all…

Of course, watched all of Will Howard’s games (don’t want) and a few of Colorado.

Just throwing around ‘buzz’ names in this end.

I did watch Shough’s highlights. 6’5” (prior injury history though). Ofc, everyone looks like a top pick in their highlight film. But, definitely intriguing.
 

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I am now interested in Shough. A lot of people really like him and they seem to think he can step in right away.
 

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I honestly haven’t taken a look at any of the upcoming draft QBs. Given JS’ draft history and all…

Of course, watched all of Will Howard’s games (don’t want) and a few of Colorado.

Just throwing around ‘buzz’ names in this end.

I did watch Shough’s highlights. 6’5” (prior injury history though). Ofc, everyone looks like a top pick in their highlight film. But, definitely intriguing.
I like Shadeur a lot. I would absolutely make a move up the board if he falls out of the top 10, which I don't think will happen despite some whispers that he's falling.

That wouldn't be popular around here though.

I appreciate Will for what he did for OSU this year, but I don't really want anything more to do with him. After Ewers, I like Gabriel best among the mid-round prospects. Maybe McCord could have some promise.
 

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Yeah I disagree with maelstrom completely. There is no guarantee Feno after three years of getting worse was going to instead at 35 drastically play better and if you pay him the 45 he wants you’re handcuffed in fixing some of your issues
And then there's just the issue that there will be some kind of giant outrage if we take a small step back. The effing Mariners have taken a 20 year step back, and now the ownership won't even pay up for a few additional bats to make us WS contenders. And he's talking like there's going to be some kind of giant revolt if that Hawks have a step-back year (which may not even happen).

It doesn't work that way in Seattle...
 

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JMO but the talk about Sanders is from teams hoping he'll fall. Ward is going first (won't get past Browns) and imagine Sanders in top 5 easily. Titans probably PO'd at the Geno trade as Raiders would have been perfect to trade with them. With Titans, Browns, Giants all needing QBs, I imagine Ward and Sanders both don't last past the third pick.
 
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JMO but the talk about Sanders is from teams hoping he'll fall. Ward is going first (won't get past Browns) and imagine Sanders in top 5 easily. Titans probably PO'd at the Geno trade as Raiders would have been perfect to trade with them. With Titans, Browns, Giants all needing QBs, I imagine Ward and Sanders both don't last past the third pick.
I’m torn you may be right but often when there is so much chatter there’s something to it. Basically nothing would shock me at this point
 

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I agree, but it also seems pretty unfair to dismiss a 6 year sample size where he was mostly pretty awful in favor of a 1 year sample size where he played really well when he was surrounded by an ultra talented roster.

There's an entire off-season ahead of us, but at the moment we're coming off of a season where we had a bottom 5 OLine, bottom 5 rushing game, and an absolutely terrible OC. If they trade DK, we will have 1 good receiving option (and we all know any decent NFL DC will have a field day if they're facing a team with only 1 good receiving option).

Based on his 7 year history in the NFL, I think it's much more likely that we would get something closer to his first 6 years in the league than his 1 good year. The situation in Seattle is much more difficult for a QB than the situation he had in Minny last season.

Yes, my second line addressed this whole post :cool:

But thanks!
 

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Does anyone really think that MM is going to be here any less than 4 years minimum (with present ownership)?
 

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Yes, my second line addressed this whole post :cool:

But thanks!

Considering you didn't even mention or acknowledge his first 6 years in the league, I'm gonna have to go ahead and disagree that your 2nd line addressed my whole post.

But you're welcome!
 

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Rather surprised at this news, but not completely.
I definitely do NOT want to see them go after Darnold and I doubt Dart lasts to the second round. Wouldn't mind seeing them make a play for Fields. Otherwise that leaves us looking for a miracle from another source, but I would prefer the draft be that source rather than ponying up bigtime to any of the FA QBs out there.
I wouldn't mind seeing them grab a backup that was drafted last year but hasn't played yet. Hooker is one of those. There are a couple of guys that looked promising but went to teams with an established starter.
 
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Considering you didn't even mention or acknowledge his first 6 years in the league, I'm gonna have to go ahead and disagree that your 2nd line addressed my whole post.

But you're welcome!

What did you think I was referring to when I said "how much of his sudden resurgence is due to the stacked Vikings roster"

His "resurgence" would be because he sucked previously right?

Not sure what you are missing. I am directly speaking to the possibility that he only got "good" because his team was stacked
 

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I also just hate when we “they better or we revolt” comments because it seems like people are almost rooting for failure.

It could fail drastically but the process is still right. You have post season success by taking chances and not being the Seattle Mariners. Why anyone would want a Mariner safe approach when we can’t win a playoff game is wild to me
A lot of the fan base is happy with 9/10 win seasons rather than having one bad one. Its the worst place to be. They need to take some swings/risks to break that cycle. If it goes wrong then at least they tried and we still get a better pick
 

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JMO but the talk about Sanders is from teams hoping he'll fall. Ward is going first (won't get past Browns) and imagine Sanders in top 5 easily. Titans probably PO'd at the Geno trade as Raiders would have been perfect to trade with them. With Titans, Browns, Giants all needing QBs, I imagine Ward and Sanders both don't last past the third pick.
Everything I've saw about sanders is that he is essentially geno Smith 2.0
 

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What did you think I was referring to when I said "how much of his sudden resurgence is due to the stacked Vikings roster"

His "resurgence" would be because he sucked previously right?

Not sure what you are missing. I am directly speaking to the possibility that he only got "good" because his team was stacked

Look man, you said you think it's unfair to dismiss 16 really good games because his last 2 were bad. I agreed with that. I was just adding that I also think it's unfair to dismiss 6 bad seasons because he had 1 good season. It didn't seem like your post addressed that to me. It also didn't seem like your post addressed that it will be a much more difficult situation in Seattle than what he had in Minny last season.
 

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Yeah I disagree with maelstrom completely. There is no guarantee Feno after three years of getting worse was going to instead at 35 drastically play better and if you pay him the 45 he wants you’re handcuffed in fixing some of your issues
I didn't say that. What I was saying is that the team is now facing increased pressure to improve given the gravity of the moves they've made and how unpopular they seem to be with the current roster with a likely DK trade looming on the horizon as well.

Plainly obvious organizational dynamics.
 
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I didn't say that. What I was saying is that the team is now facing increased pressure to improve given the gravity of the moves they've made and how unpopular they seem to be with the current roster with a likely DK trade looming on the horizon as well.

Plainly obvious organizational dynamics.
Fair enough but I’m not convinced the Geno trade is as unpopular as people think it is with the players.

DK trade is a good point though, although I think he stays
 

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Look man, you said you think it's unfair to dismiss 16 really good games because his last 2 were bad. I agreed with that. I was just adding that I also think it's unfair to dismiss 6 bad seasons because he had 1 good season. It didn't seem like your post addressed that to me. It also didn't seem like your post addressed that it will be a much more difficult situation in Seattle than what he had in Minny last season.

Not sure there is any other way to interpret what I said

When you're so busy trying to prove a point that you argue with someone who's agreeing with you it might be time for a break lol

take care:)
 

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