Can Cross handle Myles Garrett?

[Wsumatt1982]

I highly doubt there's a single NFL fan, let alone Seahawks fan, who wouldn't want that guy on their team.

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[IndyHawk]

For a 1 and a 3? In a heartbeat. They just don't have the cap for it. Now if they want DK and a 3rd for Garrett? I'd do it. And it's no secret I'm a DK fan. The Browns hold all the cards here.

And, for the record, I don't think there's a chance in hell Cleveland would do it. Still fun to talk about though

Throw in Geonoicre with Dk and Take Rodgers off the Jets hands for one year
or sign Trey Lance.
Just ideas to replace Genoicre.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Shoot, throw in geDIOCRE with DK and a pick. Hell no on Erin. Gross

 

[CallMeADawg]

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He still would probably take Myles on his team for more W’s

 

[gabel]

Dre jones, Nwosu, Fant and Lockett all get cut or restructured though. They will be fine

Ernest Jones and Jared Reed are free agents. Riq Woolen, Kenny McIntash, Mafe, Abe Lucas, Geno Smith and DK can be signed before they reach free agency next year. Seattle has the 3rd worst salary cap space in the NFL. I hope you are correct.

 

[TheLegendOfBoom]

Who knows if the Clowns will actually trade him but have to think Seattle would be a great destination for Myles Garrett. Is he worth 2/3 #1 picks and an extension? Not sure. But he definitely would look great in our D lineup.

Myles Garrett, would be awesome as he’s an unstoppable monster and always in the running for DPOY, but I’m so far done with Seattle continuously trading 1st round draft picks, I don’t want to trade anymore first rounders, even for Garrett’s caliber.

And Seattle is not a Myles Garrett away from the Bowl!

 

[Double Tribble]

We need to stop focusing on rearranging and adding deck chairs and focus on getting a captain who can steer us clear of icebergs.

 

[Rat]

Garrett is not only the best defensive player in the league, I'd argue it's not even close. You put him and Leonard Williams on the same line: how the hell do you even stop that?

If we're interested, I doubt we'd be able to put together the best package though. We don't have much in the way of premium draft picks or good trade assets.

 

[DarkVictory23]

Ernest Jones and Jared Reed are free agents. Riq Woolen, Kenny McIntash, Mafe, Abe Lucas, Geno Smith and DK can be signed before they reach free agency next year. Seattle has the 3rd worst salary cap space in the NFL. I hope you are correct.

Our salary cap space is bad, but not nearly as bad as people think.

The thing we have going for us is... we have basically no dead money on the books for next year. All the money we 'owe' is to players we can restructure, extend, or cut.

As smellyman pointed out, we have 3 guys we are almost certainly releasing (G. Fant, D. Jones, and PROBABLY Lockett ) and we are already out of our cap hell. Add on extending (or trading) Geno and DK, and we'd have plenty of space for both Jones IV and Garrett, and that's before we get into figuring out tougher calls like Noah Fant and Uchenna Nwosu.

We have work to do regarding our cap space situation, but most of it is in-house accounting stuff, not super tough personnel decisions. (If we bring on Garrett, we aren't re-signing Jarran Reed, so that's a contract we don't need to worry about).

The real issue is if we are choosing to make a big splash move at DE, we probably can't afford a big splash move at IOL.

 

[Hawkamaniac]

So, I guess everyone missed the part about wanting to play for a contender?

 

[Hawkinaz]

IMO trade compensation isn’t an issue or the salary cap you can extend players contracts ( kicking the can down the road which is how the Chiefs are keeping their team together during their Super Bowl run)

The one big question is would Garrett want to come to the Seahawk, the reason he wants a trade is he wants to play for a contender would he consider Seattle a contender?

Garrett will be 30 when the season starts I would expect 3 more seasons of elite production

 

[kidhawk]

If he wants to be here than it’s a no brainer. Bring him over and sign him to an extension quickly and that will minimize the cap hit in the early years.

As for compensation they won’t get the moon because he publicly is seeking a trade and limiting the teams he wants to go to.

As for going to a contender, Macdonald won 10 games in season 1 so if he likes us it’s not a stretch to call us a contender. It’s not like we went 4-12

I don’t think it’ll happen as we Seahawks fans know getting such a ridiculous talent via trade and having it work out is a rare occurrence here.

 

[silvergun]

Setting aside financials, yes getting Myles Garrett would be a huge defensive boon for the Seahawks. Anyone that says otherwise is on drugs.

I don’t think anyone would say that Garrett wouldn’t help the team but the cost is absolutely prohibitive. We’re not a team that’s one player away. No way could we make this move.

 

[flv2]

Well, not impossible, but they'd have to gut the rest of the team to do it.

No they wouldn't. The Seahawks will likely cut Lockett and restructure other contracts to delay the cap hits. That will put them under the cap limit. Technically Garrett is due a little under $20M in 2025 and $15M of that is scheduled to count after 2025. However, delaying isn't avoiding and you'd have to account for all of it eventually. The 2nd problem is that he'd like a market value contract. The 3rd problem would be the trade compensation. It's doable, but such a big move would mean not being able to make other, (possibly better), moves.

 

[CallMeADawg]

I don’t think anyone would say that Garrett wouldn’t help the team but the cost is absolutely prohibitive. We’re not a team that’s one player away. No way could we make this move.

Thus “setting aside financials” as a disclaimer. Apparently reading is hard.

 

[TheLegendOfBoom]

IMO trade compensation isn’t an issue or the salary cap you can extend players contracts ( kicking the can down the road which is how the Chiefs are keeping their team together during their Super Bowl run)

The one big question is would Garrett want to come to the Seahawk, the reason he wants a trade is he wants to play for a contender would he consider Seattle a contender?

Garrett will be 30 when the season starts I would expect 3 more seasons of elite production

The way Garrett trains (it’s on YouTube) this guy can have a Jared Allen type impact/production numbers at a mid/late 30s.

I’m convinced Myles Garrett is a HOF.

I would currently trade DK and Seattle’s first rounder to Cleveland for Myles Garrett.

Garrett, physically, and again, watch his offseason/in season training regiment and tell me if you do not believe this guy is BUILT to play at least 8 more seasons.

Garrett, is an ABSOLUTE athletic freak!

He probably play in his 40s!

 

[toffee]

Here, traded Geno Smith and 2nd round pick for Garrett, PFF has an over-valued opinion of Geno:

 

[DarkVictory23]

As for going to a contender, Macdonald won 10 games in season 1 so if he likes us it’s not a stretch to call us a contender. It’s not like we went 4-12

Completely.

Yeah, I get it: Being a pessimist is often mistaken for being a realist (spoiler alert: They aren't actually the same thing at all), but man all the 'We aren't close' people don't even bother to explain themselves in this (and various other) threads.

It's just treated like inherited wisdom that the Seahawks, despite 3 straight seasons of winning records and either making the playoffs or just barely missing them, are actually a TERRIBLE team, on the verge of collapse and have six million holes to fix. (I can only think of 2-ish spots where we are legitimately weak, so I don't know where all these holes we have to fix are coming from.)

 

[Hawkamaniac]

For what it's worth, my contender comment was made largely in jest, and directed at the "we can never win with Geno" crowd.

I actually think that Miles Garrett into this defense, coupled with a solid interior lineman or two and a ball-control/smash-mouth offensive philosophy, could make a deep run in the NFC.

 

[Aircrew]

Garrett is a freak of nature and we'd be lucky to have him. But ever since we fleeced the ever living shit out of Denver for DangerPuss, I worry we'd get served up another Jamal Adams by the universe.