Is Anthony Richardson worth pick 5?

[Sgt. Largent]

I don't disagree with any of that. What I would add though is Pete really values special physical tools and abilities, which Richardson certainly has. Cowherd was just on today and he spoke to this, he specifically cited Richard Sherman, Kam Chancellor and DK Metcalf. All guys who were unique talents at their respective positions that just needed the right program to flourish. It's a total hunch on my part, but I just have a gut feeling they view Richardson that way.

True, but these are all examples of undervalued bargain picks later in the draft. Low risk and high upside.

This doesn't apply to the #5 pick where if you're wrong you just wasted a once every 20-25 years opportunity.

 

[Aircrew]

True, but these are all examples of undervalued bargain picks later in the draft. Low risk and high upside.

This doesn't apply to the #5 pick where if you're wrong you just wasted a once every 20-25 years opportunity.

Yeah, good point. If Carter is there, I can imagine that would be a tough player to pass on in the draft room. Out of curiosity, who do you see Pete and John potentially grabbing at 5?

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Yeah, good point. If Carter is there, I can imagine that would be a tough player to pass on in the draft room. Out of curiosity, who do you see Pete and John potentially grabbing at 5?

I think their targets are Carter, Anderson and Wilson.

If one of these three are available? We use the pick. OR if they think they can get away with dropping down a pick or two and still grab Wilson if Carter and Anderson are gone? We do that.

 

[chris98251]

Hmmm Shadows of Akili Smith follow this player for me.

 

[SonicHawk]

Do you think they really see themselves as a playoff contender?

 

[toffee]

Richardson is the most athletic QB prospect in NFL history.

Vick and Lamar might beg to differ lol

 

[AgentDib]

Vick and Lamar might beg to differ lol

Comparing against those guys should give people an idea of just what a freak athlete Richardson is. Lamar was 2" shorter, Vick was 3" shorter, and both were 30+ pounds lighter. Neither of them ran official times or tested at the combine other than Vick's vertical which was stellar at 38". Their 40s are unofficial from a pro day for Vick, and not even a pro day for Lamar.

Richardson on the other hand now has the QB record for vertical (41.5"), record for broad jump (10'9"), and third fastest 40 time (4.43) despite his size. His Relative Athletic Score is a perfect 10.00.

 

[EverydayImRusselin]

Considering we made the playoffs last year and are about to massively upgrade the defense and O-line with the 2nd largest draft capital haul of the past decade, I'd have to say the answer to your question is yes.

The OL is mostly going to be the same players as last year, except for at center. The DL is already down a player or two, and likely a few more get cut to make cap space.

There are no rock star 1st round centers in this draft. Additionally, DL usually take a year or three to fully develop. Even Bosa his first year only had 9 sacks before becoming the dominant edge player he is. Additionally, there is almost no cap space to sign FA.

Again, I say that 2023 isn't the year that the hawks are going to compete for a title (compete, not sneak over .500 and lose in the 1st rd of the playoffs). Another great draft like 2022's sets the team up for a run in 2024/2025, which aligns with the end of Geno's tenure and a new rookie QB developing into a starter.

 

[WarHawks]

I don't think he'll be there at 5 either, but if he is, it all boils down to whether or not Pete and John think he can progress enough to be our qbotf in a year or two. If not, then this is all moot. And if so, then buckle up.

 

[Nv_Hawks]

I’ve been on the fence on a qb at 5. Then I remembered this is a freebie. Our pick is 20, so picking a qb at 5, thank you Russ for sucking. When all is said and done with the trade of RW in 3 years, look at the potential pro bowlers we may have landed. Cross and whomever we get at 5.

 

[Bear-Hawk]

The OL is mostly going to be the same players as last year, except for at center. The DL is already down a player or two, and likely a few more get cut to make cap space.

There are no rock star 1st round centers in this draft. Additionally, DL usually take a year or three to fully develop. Even Bosa his first year only had 9 sacks before becoming the dominant edge player he is. Additionally, there is almost no cap space to sign FA.

Again, I say that 2023 isn't the year that the hawks are going to compete for a title (compete, not sneak over .500 and lose in the 1st rd of the playoffs). Another great draft like 2022's sets the team up for a run in 2024/2025, which aligns with the end of Geno's tenure and a new rookie QB developing into a starter.

John Michael Schmitz is the top center in this draft. He should be high on the Seahawks board. Center is a huge hole. Take him at #20 and Carter at#5. That’s two long-term Pro Bowl caliber players. That’s what you’re supposed to get from first round picks.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

The OL is mostly going to be the same players as last year, except for at center. The DL is already down a player or two, and likely a few more get cut to make cap space.

There are no rock star 1st round centers in this draft. Additionally, DL usually take a year or three to fully develop. Even Bosa his first year only had 9 sacks before becoming the dominant edge player he is. Additionally, there is almost no cap space to sign FA.

Again, I say that 2023 isn't the year that the hawks are going to compete for a title (compete, not sneak over .500 and lose in the 1st rd of the playoffs). Another great draft like 2022's sets the team up for a run in 2024/2025, which aligns with the end of Geno's tenure and a new rookie QB developing into a starter.

I don't even know where to begin.

1. Having to replace 2 out the 5 OL positions is not "the same players as last year." Especially when one of those positions is center.

2. This is one of the deepest center drafts in a long time, with 5-6 centers expected to go in the first 2-3 rounds.

2023 NFL Draft Prospects: Center – WalterFootball

walterfootball.com

Add in cap space and the most picks we've had in decades to overhaul the defensive holes, AND all the rookies last year taking the usual big leap in year 2? So yes, I do think the Hawks consider themselves playoff contender.

The team in 2023 will be better than the team in 2022, and that team................wait for it....................made the playoffs. So I don't even know how you can stand behind that statement.

 

[Bear-Hawk]

I don't even know where to begin.

1. Having to replace 2 out the 5 OL positions is not "the same players as last year." Especially when one of those positions is center.

2. This is one of the deepest center drafts in a long time, with 5-6 centers expected to go in the first 2-3 rounds.

2023 NFL Draft Prospects: Center – WalterFootball

walterfootball.com

Add in cap space and the most picks we've had in decades to overhaul the defensive holes, AND all the rookies last year taking the usual big leap in year 2? So yes, I do think the Hawks consider themselves playoff contended.

The team in 2023 will be better than the team in 2022, and that team................wait for it....................made the playoffs. So I don't even know how you can stand behind that statement.

I agree. The Seahawks and Bears are are both greatly positioned to upgrade the OL and DL this off-season. I can’t wait to see what happens in free agency and draft. Both my teams are going to be a lot better in 2023— maybe meet in the playoffs.

 

[EverydayImRusselin]

I don't even know where to begin.

1. Having to replace 2 out the 5 OL positions is not "the same players as last year." Especially when one of those positions is center.

2. This is one of the deepest center drafts in a long time, with 5-6 centers expected to go in the first 2-3 rounds.

2023 NFL Draft Prospects: Center – WalterFootball

walterfootball.com

Add in cap space and the most picks we've had in decades to overhaul the defensive holes, AND all the rookies last year taking the usual big leap in year 2? So yes, I do think the Hawks consider themselves playoff contender.

The team in 2023 will be better than the team in 2022, and that team................wait for it....................made the playoffs. So I don't even know how you can stand behind that statement.

I should clarify, I meant actual contenders, like win multiple playoff games. I don't see the team doing that in 2023.

 

[Rock_the_Hawk]

True, but these are all examples of undervalued bargain picks later in the draft. Low risk and high upside.

This doesn't apply to the #5 pick where if you're wrong you just wasted a once every 20-25 years opportunity.

Everybody is assuming that Richardson is going to be a top 5 draft pick. I don't think so... i think its combine hype... The Hawks might be interested in Richardson, that might be a true statement look at what happen to Malik Willis..true he didnt have the measurables that Richardson has but he was supposed to be a 1st round pick and he ended up being a 3rd round pick. Aaron Rodgers was supposed to be the first over all pick and he dropped to 23. Maybe im wrong but i just dont see Richardson as a top 5 pick. If the Hawks want him i could see them trading up with their #20 pick some where between 10 and 15... just my take

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Everybody is assuming that Richardson is going to be a top 5 draft pick. I don't think so... i think its combine hype... The Hawks might be interested in Richardson, that might be a true statement look at what happen to Malik Willis..true he didnt have the measurables that Richardson has but he was supposed to be a 1st round pick and he ended up being a 3rd round pick. Aaron Rodgers was supposed to be the first over all pick and he dropped to 23. Maybe im wrong but i just dont see Richardson as a top 5 pick. If the Hawks want him i could see them trading up with their #20 pick some where between 10 and 15... just my take

You've got like 11 of the top 15/16 teams in this year's draft order that need QB's...........and you've got 4 consensus 1st round QB's in Levis, Stroud, Richardson and Young.

That leaves at LEAST 8-10 teams desperate to be one of these four teams that gets 1st round QB talent.

So yeah man, one of them is going to jump up to get Richardson. This happens almost every year, overrated or prospects that need bigtime development get drafted too high. The position is too important for teams not to overdraft them.

Especially when you're talking about a QB like Richardson who's skillset jumps off the screen at you.


Just in the last decade.

The 49ers traded up for Trey Lance.
The Packers traded up for Jordan Love.
The Jets traded up for Sam Darnold.
The Cardinals trade up for Josh Rosen.
The Rams traded up for Jared Goff.
The Eagles traded up for Carson Wentz.
The Broncos traded up for Paxton Lynch.

 

[Rock_the_Hawk]

You've got like 11 of the top 15/16 teams in this year's draft order that need QB's...........and you've got 4 consensus 1st round QB's in Levis, Stroud, Richardson and Young.

That leaves at LEAST 8-10 teams desperate to be one of these four teams that gets 1st round QB talent.

So yeah man, one of them is going to jump up to get Richardson. This happens almost every year, overrated or prospects that need bigtime development get drafted too high. The position is too important for teams not to overdraft them.

Especially when you're talking about a QB like Richardson who's skillset jumps off the screen at you.


Just in the last decade.

The 49ers traded up for Trey Lance.
The Packers traded up for Jordan Love.
The Jets traded up for Sam Darnold.
The Cardinals trade up for Josh Rosen.
The Rams traded up for Jared Goff.
The Eagles traded up for Carson Wentz.
The Broncos traded up for Paxton Lynch.

Yeah there are a lot of clubs that need QBs... no doubt. There are also a lot of good qbs that are not getting the press...We will see what happens. It should be a exciting draft.

 

[sc85sis]

Everybody is assuming that Richardson is going to be a top 5 draft pick. I don't think so... i think its combine hype... The Hawks might be interested in Richardson, that might be a true statement look at what happen to Malik Willis..true he didnt have the measurables that Richardson has but he was supposed to be a 1st round pick and he ended up being a 3rd round pick. Aaron Rodgers was supposed to be the first over all pick and he dropped to 23. Maybe im wrong but i just dont see Richardson as a top 5 pick. If the Hawks want him i could see them trading up with their #20 pick some where between 10 and 15... just my take

I’m feeling that way too. We could be surprised, but I think people may be getting too caught up in combine hype.

Take a listen to Matt Stinchcomb from the SEC Network on Brock and Salk yesterday (about 21:40 in at https://omny.fm/shows/brock-and-salk/hour-3-85?in_playlist=mike-salk!podcast). He was blunt in his assessment.

 

[Lagartixa]

The OL is mostly going to be the same players as last year, except for at center. The DL is already down a player or two, and likely a few more get cut to make cap space.

The awful Gabe Jackson and his large cap hit for negative production should be gone, allowing the Seahawks to use the extra $6.5M in cap space on players who can actually contribute in a positive way.

 

[Rock_the_Hawk]

You've got like 11 of the top 15/16 teams in this year's draft order that need QB's...........and you've got 4 consensus 1st round QB's in Levis, Stroud, Richardson and Young.

That leaves at LEAST 8-10 teams desperate to be one of these four teams that gets 1st round QB talent.

So yeah man, one of them is going to jump up to get Richardson. This happens almost every year, overrated or prospects that need bigtime development get drafted too high. The position is too important for teams not to overdraft them.

Especially when you're talking about a QB like Richardson who's skillset jumps off the screen at you.


Just in the last decade.

The 49ers traded up for Trey Lance.
The Packers traded up for Jordan Love.
The Jets traded up for Sam Darnold.
The Cardinals trade up for Josh Rosen.
The Rams traded up for Jared Goff.
The Eagles traded up for Carson Wentz.
The Broncos traded up for Paxton Lynch.

Did you watch tape on this guy?