How good is Geno?

[Rock_the_Hawk]

I dont understand the question

What parts of Geno's game are the Hawks coaching Geno up? I mean its really impossible to know but just from your perspective...

 

[Rock_the_Hawk]

I can see massive improvement in his game from when he played the Niners and Detroit just in the way he steps up in the pocket to avoid pressure. The way he is playing now is much better he wouldnt have taken half of the sacks in those two games.

I think his mechanics are solid and that most of the coaching is in prepperation, small tweeks to his game depending on the opponent and constant reinforcement of the mental side of the game.

 

[toffee]

What parts of Geno's game are the Hawks coaching Geno up? I mean its really impossible to know but just from your perspective...

Coaching and system counts, but you can only do so much with coaching and system. Case in point, Russell Wilson, same coaches, same system, but Wilson refused to do certain things coaches wanted him to do. Geno will do what coaches asked him to do. When it comes to God given talent, Geno has enough arm talent to make throws with accuracy, at age 31, his is still quick athletic. In games played this season, Geno seems to have as much speed, if not more, as Russell Wilson.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Geno's a company man.

Meaning he bided his time, did ALL the things that were asked of him like working out to get stronger and faster, working his ass off to learn Waldron's system, and now completely buying into what his coaches are asking him to do play by play, series by series and game by game.

There's no resistance to how he's being coached like his predecessor, and when that happens within the confines of an extremely well coached and playcalled offensive system?

You get what we're seeing now, a QB that the entire league wrote off balling his ass off.

 

[Rock_the_Hawk]

Geno's a company man.

Meaning he bided his time, did ALL the things that were asked of him like working out to get stronger and faster, working his ass off to learn Waldron's system, and now completely buying into what his coaches are asking him to do play by play, series by series and game by game.

There's no resistance to how he's being coached like his predecessor, and when that happens within the confines of an extremely well coached and playcalled offensive system?

You get what we're seeing now, a QB that the entire league wrote off balling his ass off.

Its a beautiful thing!

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Whatever he's doing, or how he's being coached up.....it's working. Good enough for me.

 

[keasley45]

What parts of Geno's game are the Hawks coaching Geno up? I mean its really impossible to know but just from your perspective...

According to Pete, everything they're giving him, he's taking and incorporating into his game. Pete's on record as saying with Geno, there's zero resistance to the guidance he's given. He absorbs it all.

So I think to answer your question, he's taking in everything; being coached on everything. I think he's always had the aptitude to run a pass heavy system. It's why he was so highly touted coming out of college. But the degree to which he's been accurate, the patience and trust he has in his reads and calls. The way he protects the ball. I'm sure all of those things have been pressed into him while he's been here by Pete and Shane. He's taken his own God given ability and allowed his coaches to apply it to the way Shane and Pete believe things should be done. He trusts them and they obviously trust him.

It's been a perfect match.

And the great thing to see, whether he's being coached up on it or not, is that he's careful to not get lulled into the same reads and throws. There were a few games up and until I think maybe the Chargers game, where he was going to Tyler on a hook route designed to sit Tyler down between defenders, out of the slot to Geno's right. He'd gone to that play in the preseason and a few times during the regular season. When a defender almost jumped the pattern on a first down conversion, Geno recognized the well was running dry and when he had the opportunity again, double clutched the ball, pulled it down and went elsewhere. Whether that's just a vet knowing his game or him being coached to beware, I can't say. But he's been growing in similar ways, game over game.

Bailing the pocket the way he did against Arizona on a few critical occassions... also a newer wrinkle that wasn't there as often early in the season.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Can even YOU admit that he should have been picked 3 times though? Or that he held on to the ball way too long on a few plays?
He finished strong, but he is not w/out criticism. He made some legit bonehead decisions. However, he bounced back and made up for them.
They got the W, truly what matters. I'm sure he's watching a ton of film right now to avoid just throwing it up to defenders. Shoot, two of those were in the red zone.
Getting blasted because I dare say something negative about Geno in 3....2....1......

(relax, I'm just joking around)

 

[FlyingGunHawk]

 

[StoneCold]

Can even YOU admit that he should have been picked 3 times though? Or that he held on to the ball way too long on a few plays?
He finished strong, but he is not w/out criticism. He made some legit bonehead decisions. However, he bounced back and made up for them.
They got the W, truly what matters. I'm sure he's watching a ton of film right now to avoid just throwing it up to defenders. Shoot, two of those were in the red zone.
Getting blasted because I dare say something negative about Geno in 3....2....1......

(relax, I'm just joking around)

Hmm, funny, eh?. Are you trying to say no one is willing to criticize Geno? If so, I'm not getting that at all. He is balling, has room to grow and yes, he made a few mistakes on Sunday.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I'm just messing around. He seems overall immune to criticism often on here. Didn't see one person mention he should have had 3 picks.
Doesn't matter, he's ballin. We're in good hands with Geno.

 

[toffee]

Most QB wear a wristband, for a team with a QB that needed additional time in the huddle, information on that wristband helped. Guess what, Russell Wilson resisted wearing one, according to Pete, and we constantly wasted timeouts just to get plays in. All I can say is, Hello Hackett, having fun with your partner yet?

Here Geno with his:

 

[SoulfishHawk]

but that green tho

 

[toffee]

From "they wrote me off, but I ain't write back", to "I'm an English major but I was using ebonic". This guy is fun fun fun nothing corny there.

 

[keasley45]

Can even YOU admit that he should have been picked 3 times though? Or that he held on to the ball way too long on a few plays?
He finished strong, but he is not w/out criticism. He made some legit bonehead decisions. However, he bounced back and made up for them.
They got the W, truly what matters. I'm sure he's watching a ton of film right now to avoid just throwing it up to defenders. Shoot, two of those were in the red zone.
Getting blasted because I dare say something negative about Geno in 3....2....1......

(relax, I'm just joking around)

Yeah, he's absolutely held the ball too long, which is why inponted out that it was good to see him break the pocket when things didn't develop quickly enough.

And I did say he had a couple of poor throws last game. He had a couple against the Chargers as well.

He's had a couple in every game. AND I'm also aware that he's completing passes at league leading rate and improved upon that rate in a 'bad game.

He absolutley isn't flawless. All I can say is that when he's made mistakes, it seems he's learning from them. Doesn't mean he won't make new mistakes again.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

That's cool, just curious. What I love to see from the guy is the fire and passion out there. He was pisssssed, and that's a good thing. After that, it refocused him. This team has zero panic. This season in general has been shocking to say the least. And they're just getting started imo.
Also, they didn't just abandon the run. They talked about it a lot on post game. They kept telling the closer that he will get some 1 and 2 yard gains, but that eventually those holes will open up. And in back to back games, he closed it out in the 4th quarter. Kid is special.

 

[StoneCold]

I'm just messing around. He seems overall immune to criticism often on here. Didn't see one person mention he should have had 3 picks.
Doesn't matter, he's ballin. We're in good hands with Geno.

I remember the one in the endzone and of course the one actual pick, where was the third? I'd also phrase it as "could have" rather than "should", but that's splitting hairs, of which Geno and I have very few of.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

There was another in in the red zone that should have been picked. Even the announcer mentioned that he was extremely lucky to not have 3 picks.
I'm not just making it up, that's all I'm saying. It happened. And it doens't matter, because he overcame it.
Watched the replay last night, it was around the 11 yard line. Ball popped straight up after he forced it to Dis, somehow the guy dropped it.

 

[keasley45]

There was another in in the red zone that should have been picked. Even the announcer mentioned that he was extremely lucky to not have 3 picks.
I'm not just making it up, that's all I'm saying. It happened. And it doens't matter, because he overcame it.

I think that was the one the defender deflected in the air. He himself wasn't in position to make the interception as he came over one of our TEs backs to knock the ball away. We were lucky in that the deflection didn't come down in an Arizona players hands. But yes, Geno was late on that throw, but it wasn't remotely as errant a decision as the actual int he threw. The TE had position... just way late. He should have thrown it away.

 

[renofox]

Even the GOAT throws interceptions and balls that coulda shoulda woulda been intercepted in nearly every game they play.

Yes, Geno needs to constantly improve that area of his game. He SHOULD get better at this with more time playing in the system and learning his receivers.

No, I don't think it's currently a big problem in relation to his overall play.