Jamal Adams hand injury

[Mistashoesta]

Tough crowd. It's July. Relax.

 

[Spohawks]

Adams is the most exciting player on defence and he racked up 9 sacks in 1 year. Name 1 other player that can drop the QB 9 times and be called a bust? Injuries happen.

He has hands of stone, he wasn't catching anything any ways...cast it up and put him on the field.

 

[GemCity]

If we get the Jamal Adams we traded for, we’ll be in great hands (no pun intended). The haters will still find a way to hate though. They alway do.

I was all for the trade but, no matter how folks say “it’s only training camp, calm down”, it’s a reoccurring injury. Mitigating the talk around it really isn’t fooling anybody. He’s played through quite a bit and if this injury is enough to keep him off the field, training camp or not, it’s a problem.

 

[AgentDib]

In my view the trade itself is in the history books and had a very poor outcome. They knew the writing was on the wall with Russ and went all-in by trading for a key defensive piece who would be underpaid for two seasons. If we had won the Superbowl in either 2020 or 2021 then it would have been worth it, but the dominos didn't fall that way. Adams did significantly outplay his (cheap) contract for those two seasons, but didn't push us over the top and we would have been much better off hanging onto the draft capital with the benefit of hindsight.

That being said, the past is sunk. When it comes to making decisions now what matters is whether Adams is worth the contract we are paying him going forwards. That's a probable 'yes' this season at $9.1m cap, a 'maybe' next season at $18.1m, and a 'probable no' in 2024 at $23.6m.

Either way, we certainly aren't going to move on from him prior to 2024 given the amount of dead cap that would be involved. That gives us the next two years to gather information about how effective he is in our revamped defense and how available he is on gamedays. There's really no reason to root against him over the next two years just because he was part of a poor trade previously.

 

[Lagartixa]

What an absolute bust of a trade this turned into.

I used to frequent Field Gulls. There was one guy there who was convinced at the time that the trade for Adams, which I thought was likely to turn out badly because of how much the Seahawks gave up for him, was the final piece that was going to give the Seahawks at least one more Lombardi. I don't miss Field Gulls at all, but I confess I would have liked to go back and find that guy's posts on the subject and ask him how he feels about that trade now.

 

[Lagartixa]

While I’m not happy Adams could be out for an extended time. Is it really that big of a deal now?

Seattle traded a lot for him, yes, no question, however, it’s not like Seattle was predicted to win this division this year. In a rebuilding year, Adams being out isn’t necessarily a bad thing. His contact and cost of opportunity lost is bad but Seattle’s season was not going to be predicated on if Adams played or does not play this year.

We’ll just have to see how this plays out before we condemn this season.

Bad mouth Adams contract all you want but I’m still excited to see how the team does this year, Adams in or not.

Given how Adams played in 2021 (yes, with a lot of injury issues, but "health is a skill," and Adams doesn't appear to have it), I'm not all that convinced his absence in 2022 would hurt the Seahawks on the field all that noticeably even if the Seahawks had been expected to contend this season.

We can't go back and undo what now looks like a terrible trade, so I'm now trying to see the capital traded for him and the cap space wasted on committed to him as sunk costs, so I'm just thinking about how the team can do going forward, given that the earliest realistic exit from Adams's contract is after the 2023 season (and even that would involve over $14M in dead money). At this point, if the Seahawks get any positive value from Adams over the next two season, it'll be gravy.

 

[Ozzy]

This trade seemed terrible from the beginning and out of character so I'm curious who pushed for it. It feels like a trade Pete pushed for but who knows? multiple firsts and players for a box safety(league best at the time) just didn't make sense. Greg Williams alluded to him not working here and while Seahawks fans laughed at him for it, I think he knew something most of us don't. Having said all of that, assuming he can stay healthy maybe the new faces on the coaching staff can figure out a way to utilize him like he was used in NY. It's still probably not a great trade but lets make the best of it.

 

[FrodosFinger]

Given how Adams played in 2021 (yes, with a lot of injury issues, but "health is a skill," and Adams doesn't appear to have it), I'm not all that convinced his absence in 2022 would hurt the Seahawks all that noticeably even if the Seahawks had been expected to contend this season.

He had a great year tbh

 

[Ozzy]

Great? He had a better year. No where near worth what they gave up for him. They gave up almost as much for him as the Rams did for Stafford.

But its all sunk cost. I'm just hoping the new voices on the staff can use him how they should.

 

[FrodosFinger]

He’ll be fine but Ryan Neal is a really good fill in if need be

 

[Sgt. Largent]

The piling on continues as far as Adams for the many folks who don't like him. This is more a precautionary situation than any reality that he has been re-injured.

Here is a more accurate version which includes his comments and those of PC:

https://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/nfl/seattle-seahawks/article263945016.html

My belief is he'll be back to camp shortly and will start the season as the team's SS

Has nothing to do with liking him or not.

When you give up two first round picks for a player, you're assuming the player you receive in return is going to be a cornerstone difference maker for your team.

Adam's has not been that difference maker, because he's suffered injury after injury.

So yeah, forgive us if we're a little salty with yet another injury reported........which won't be the last. Dude's broken. Carson, Kam, guys who play like that don't last long. Adams fits into this category.

 

[jammerhawk]

Thing is this injury was reported last season and was already the subject of surgery so he's actually being pro active in assuring he's recovered before the season starts.

Believe what you want but when the bullets start to fly Adams will be there and playing his usual aggressive style of ball.

 

[nanomoz]

I admire those trying to put a positive spin on this, but my gut just feels dread.

Exactly. And with the installation of a new defense, this year's training camp and preseason is more crucial than is usually the case for a vet like Adams (who was clearly negatively impacted by being absent for much of last season's preseason with the hold-in).

We'll be glad that they have Jones and Neal (and not Terrell Bierra).

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Believe what you want but when the bullets start to fly Adams will be there and playing his usual aggressive style of ball.

Until week 9 when one of his surgically repaired shoulders gives out again, and he missed the rest of yet another season.

He's broken dude. Safeties like Adams don't recover from double torn labrums, they just manage their contact and how they tackle.

Which is why he makes business decisions on the goalline not hitting RB's and arm tackles everyone now.

 

[AROS]

I really like Neal, kid has serious potential. I also am crossing my fingers (strange phrase given the contents of this thread) that Blair is going to finally have an injury-free season and prove his ability. Pete is really high on him.

 

[FrodosFinger]

Dude could have 3 sacks and a pick 6 against the Broncos and guys in here will be like “he missed a tackle though so he’s a bust”

 

[Own The West]

I don't think this is much of an issue. He's having problems with his hand, not his legs. He'll being playing week 1, just with or without a cast/splint.

 

[jammerhawk]

Until week 9 when one of his surgically repaired shoulders gives out again, and he missed the rest of yet another season.

He's broken dude. Safeties like Adams don't recover from double torn labrums, they just manage their contact and how they tackle.

Which is why he makes business decisions on the goalline not hitting RB's and arm tackles everyone now.

Adams doesn't make 'business decisions' to avoid contact which is why he has been nicked up. In fact I recall a situation where he stuffed the runner hard near the goalie ending the opponents possession, there was no 'business decision' there. I for sure don't recall any arm tackles as you allege. Don't let your personal biases make up factual allegations that are not substantiated in reality.

I don't get the continuing hostility by a hard core group here for Adams who is in my mind an elite player who doesn't leave anything behind when he plays. At present this thread is about his hand injury where he himself has had fingers fused to prevent them from being dislocated. The player did this himself to attempt to avoid time off during the season.

Sure he's injured and re-injured his repaired labrum and that situation will need to be assessed going forward. He got medical clearance so the team doesn't agree with your negative view. He was pretty darn upset that the team sat him last year b/c of the re-injury and had had another procedure to hopefully insure he can play the whole season. it is reasonable though to have some apprehension about his ability to play a whole season after last year's re-injury. Injuries happen, but it is an unfair characterization of the player that he doesn't play each play to the max. He brings an infectious take no prisoners approach to the way he plays in fact. When he plays he is an elite player.

Some huge perjorative assumptions are made in your post that he will never recover, is broken, etc., etc.. I just don't buy your view, and suspect if he hadn't cost the team the significant draft capital cost that paid for him you wouldn't be as negative. Sure the team paid a high price for the player who has since arriving made the Pro Bowl and set a S NFL sack record but has had some injuries. Of course it is fair to claim the team hasn't rec'd commensurate value for his cost but it is also fair to observe has has played well when healthy but has been poorly used by DC who had zero clue on how to most effectively reply Adams talent.

Oh, and it's only July yet.

 

[Appyhawk]

One upside is we've had a lot of practice at filling in for him when he's out.

 

[jammerhawk]

Update:

Adams has a broken finger on his left hand and it is one of the fingers he had fused to prevent repeated dislocations.

Injury Update: Jamal Adams has a broken finger

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