Desmond Ridder

[seabowl]

IMO Ridder should be a guy the Hawks trade down and take. He’s got it all, strong arm, big, can scramble and run plus he’s got a ton of college experience leading a lesser program to a bowl game. I think in Petes offense he’d be a great fit.

 

[Yxes1122]

My only issue with Ridder is the accuracy problems.

If they are correctable, he has a shot to be really good. If they aren't, I fear he is another Jake Locker.

I'll add that he is working with Jordan Palmer, and he claims the accuracy problems are issues with the strength/conditioning he received in college. If so, then it is correctable.

 

[Seahawkwalt1967]

I really like Jack Coan ND QB in later rounds.

 

[hieroglyphics]

I tend to dislike tall running QBs. They are SUCH a target to get injured. He seems to have that same RGIII type frame, only he's the same weight as him and 2 inches taller.

Part of the brilliance of Wilson was his ability to maintain control of his body, and though its not always practical to have a shorter QB, if you're getting a faster QB who can make plays with his feet, a shorter guy who has a lower center of gravity, it makes sense why Wilson could avoid major injuries despite being hit way more over his career.

If you draft a guy as tall as Ridder, I don't think he has the weight needed to stay healthy given that height.

 

[James in PA]

Ridder looks like he's about 40 years old. [emoji38]


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[seabowl]

I really like Jack Coan ND QB in later rounds.

Been watching Coan his whole career and even in HS as I live where he grew up. He's very accurate and has a good arm. Definitely a pocket passer with little mobility. In the right system (Pats,Colts,maybe Hawks) I think he could produce but could end up a backup. Fifth round worth a look.

 

[Yxes1122]

I’m becoming pretty convinced that Ridder is the QB (if any) that Seattle has identified as a target in this draft. Ridder is mobile, all he did was win at Cincy, he has 10”+ hands, and Seattle was openly absent from his Pro Day. We have to remember that when Wilson was their target, they met at the Senior Bowl and then avoided him for the rest of the process.

 

[UK_Seahawk]

I’m becoming pretty convinced that Ridder is the QB (if any) that Seattle has identified as a target in this draft. Ridder is mobile, all he did was win at Cincy, he has 10”+ hands, and Seattle was openly absent from his Pro Day. We have to remember that when Wilson was their target, they met at the Senior Bowl and then avoided him for the rest of the process.

He also did well at the Senior Bowl which is also a useful barometer to measure potential Seahawk targets.

I'm with you, the more I think about it the more I think this guy is the pick at 40 / 41.

 

[Spin Doctor]

Don't like the guy. He's a hot mess, if he's a round three QB I would be all for it -- but dang does he have a lot of work to do to be NFL ready. I've watched a lot of his games and walked away really unimpressed and sometimes I thought to myself WTF did I just watch. He can make plays but he is about as unrefined as you can get for a QB.

 

[Yxes1122]

Don't like the guy. He's a hot mess, if he's a round three QB I would be all for it -- but dang does he have a lot of work to do to be NFL ready. I've watched a lot of his games and walked away really unimpressed and sometimes I thought to myself WTF did I just watch. He can make plays but he is about as unrefined as you can get for a QB.

This is closer to how I feel about him as a prospect as well. Major questions about accuracy and arm strength.

If I had to take a QB in this draft, I'd take Carson Strong in the 3rd. I think he's undervalued based on mobility but ran the offense from the LoS while at Nevada, played last year on a bum leg which messed with his mechanics, has above average pocket presence and is still an overall accurate QB.

But in general, I'd prefer to wait it out and get one in 2023.

 

[Spin Doctor]

This is closer to how I feel about him as a prospect as well. Major questions about accuracy and arm strength.

If I had to take a QB in this draft, I'd take Carson Strong in the 3rd. I think he's undervalued based on mobility but ran the offense from the LoS while at Nevada, played last year on a bum leg which messed with his mechanics, has above average pocket presence and is still an overall accurate QB.

But in general, I'd prefer to wait it out and get one in 2023.

I too really like Carson Strong. I've researched his condition and it's likely to get better after the surgery. Whenever I see him play I come away impressed with how refined he is as a passer in the NCAA. I think he could start from day 1. I could see him being as successful as Mac Jones was in NE in his first season.

 

[Yxes1122]

I too really like Carson Strong. I've researched his condition and it's likely to get better after the surgery. Whenever I see him play I come away impressed with how refined he is as a passer in the NCAA. I think he could start from day 1. I could see him being as successful as Mac Jones was in NE in his first season.

For me it comes down to whether he can get that River/Ryan/Brady elite pocket presence. And I think he’s already close.

But, in a weird way, I think he maximizes the players on our roster. He loved TEs at Nevada (Fant) and loved the deep ball (Lockett/Metcalf). I just worry about him behind a bad OL.

 

[haroldseattle]

I liked Strong a lot on first viewing. Good arm, can make all the throws short, intermediate, or long and doesn't favor one over the other. On second viewing I realize that he forces a lot of his passes, trying to get it to receivers that are covered, maybe he had decided to go to a receiver from the moment he called for the snap? Transitioning from a air raid offense to Pete's offense is a lot to ask. He'd definitely have to rein in those dangerous passes he throws or he'll be racking up interceptions in the pros. His arm is good, but not THAT good, Still I do like that he'll throw it over the middle or to the sidelines, go long or go to his check down. So many of the other QBs seem to avoid or favor certain area of the field or leave the pocket at a drop of a hat. The knee of course is the big problem. Can he pass his physical? Can he hold up under a beating? If so he might be someone the Seahawks can wait until 3rd round or maybe later to draft and has some good potential.

 

[Yxes1122]

I liked Strong a lot on first viewing. Good arm, can make all the throws short, intermediate, or long and doesn't favor one over the other. On second viewing I realize that he forces a lot of his passes, trying to get it to receivers that are covered, maybe he had decided to go to a receiver from the moment he called for the snap? Transitioning from a air raid offense to Pete's offense is a lot to ask. He'd definitely have to rein in those dangerous passes he throws or he'll be racking up interceptions in the pros. His arm is good, but not THAT good, Still I do like that he'll throw it over the middle or to the sidelines, go long or go to his check down. So many of the other QBs seem to avoid or favor certain area of the field or leave the pocket at a drop of a hat. The knee of course is the big problem. Can he pass his physical? Can he hold up under a beating? If so he might be someone the Seahawks can wait until 3rd round or maybe later to draft and has some good potential.

It’s hard to judge Strong because of his knee injury. He’s discussed how it affected his mechanics and how Jordan Palmer is helping him focus on engaging his whole body on throws which would generate more velocity and help with his shaky accuracy. Every throw he made last season is almost pure arm.

To your other point, I think it’s easier to reign in an aggressive QB than teach one to be aggressive. Strong will always take a vertical shot if he sees a one on one match up. Russ did this consistently. There’s a play he makes against Air Force in Q1 where he climbs through two points of pressure, and throws a deep ball into double coverage that hits Doubs in the chest. It’s a tough catch, but it is a play a better WR catches. And he does this consistently. It’s that confidence to know he’s going to just beat the coverage.

I’m not saying Strong is a franchise QB. But the way he plays, to me, has the makings of an NFL starter. The biggest question to me is the health of the knee (two knee surgery’s) and his pocket mobility.

If I had to risk a pick this year, Strong in Round 3 seems like a better gamble than a Corral or Ridder in Round 2. And that has a lot to do with the value of other positions in R2 than what I think of Corral or Ridder.

 

[Maelstrom787]

He's the only quarterback I see in this draft that processes the field at an impressive level. Throws with anticipation. He's not simply reactive.

His accuracy is a huge concern, but I think the fundamentals there can be worked on. I like the rest of what I see from him.

 

[SNDavidson]

Desmond Ritter is my dream QB pick this year! He's our savior! Get er done John!
But, here's my twist; draft and start his favorite target too! Cmon John!!

Ritter to Pierce TD

 

[hawkfan68]

I'm high on what Desmond Ridder can bring to the Seahawks too. I think he is better fit for what the Seahawks do than the others in the draft. I'd be ecstatic if the Seahawks chose him. It's not like Russell Wilson was a top name in his draft class either but he panned out well. Ridder has the potential to do the same.

 

[Nv_Hawks]

I liked Strong a lot on first viewing. Good arm, can make all the throws short, intermediate, or long and doesn't favor one over the other. On second viewing I realize that he forces a lot of his passes, trying to get it to receivers that are covered, maybe he had decided to go to a receiver from the moment he called for the snap? Transitioning from a air raid offense to Pete's offense is a lot to ask. He'd definitely have to rein in those dangerous passes he throws or he'll be racking up interceptions in the pros. His arm is good, but not THAT good, Still I do like that he'll throw it over the middle or to the sidelines, go long or go to his check down. So many of the other QBs seem to avoid or favor certain area of the field or leave the pocket at a drop of a hat. The knee of course is the big problem. Can he pass his physical? Can he hold up under a beating? If so he might be someone the Seahawks can wait until 3rd round or maybe later to draft and has some good potential.

I live in Reno. I have inside info on Carson as I know family friend. His knee is apparently doing well and he had a productive pro day tryout.

 

[SNDavidson]

Alex Pierce

 

[Double Tribble]

His tape against Alabama is underwhelming at best. I don't see anything elite in him at all. I'd rather wait for '23. Meh.