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As we know points (or whoever pays the refs more) wins games, and whoever is our kicker next year will be the guy who creates the most points for the Seahawks.

Steven H is a free agent this off season and I think it is time to part ways with him.

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Thu, 14 Feb 2013 11:43:33 -0800

Seattle Seahawks impending free-agent PK Steven Hauschka has only hit three of his eight field goal attempts of at least 50 yards since joining the Seahawks.


The hawks have an amazing offence that can march down the field, however they are young and may not be the finishers that they will one day be. So a strong legged kicker is the answer to finishing those few drives that fall short. Yes talking about kickers is lame, but winning is not. So what FA would you take over Steven or how early in the draft would you pick a franchise kicker.

Here is a list of FA kickers...

Rob Bironas
Josh Brown
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Jason Hanson
Nate Kaeding
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Mike Nugent
Jake Rogers
Lawrence Tynes

I would spend a 5th on the best kicker in the draft. Just think how many games will be in his hands over the next ten years.


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Just think how many games will be in his hands over the next ten years.


Very few. We're going to blow 90% of our opponents out of the water. They will be crying to the league about being beaten like a red-headed stepchild.

(In all seriousness, I actually would like to see us draft a great kicker.)

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The noise that I make when I sneeze will be back with the Hawks.

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We have like 4 7th rounder right? Id like to see us use one on a kicker. How about that fat kid from Wazzu?


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We have like 4 7th rounder right? Id like to see us use one on a kicker. How about that fat kid from Wazzu?

I just LOL'd thinking of the commish up there saying, "With the 225th pick in the NFL 2013 draft, the Seattle Seahawks select the fat kid from Washington State."

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He'll be back. 3/8 from 50+ isn't "struggling." One of those was a nearly impossible 61 (?) yard attempt. Take that out of the equation and his numbers are right around the league average for 50+. And under 50 he's among the best in the game.


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Yeah take the 61 yarder out of his attempts and he is 3/7 from 50+ which isn't horrible, I mean look at what Mason Crosby did, or if fact didn't do, for the Packers this year. I am fine with keeping Steven, but would also be all for them bringing in some more competition, aside from Carson Wiggs who they just signed.

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Rob Bironas was the man from long distance a few years ago. Not sure what he's done since. I saw him hit a 60+ with ease, and it would have broken the record if he'd been back further. I just don't want to ever carry 2 kickers again like we did under Ruskell. We didn't even have enough healthy offensive linemen to play a game, and he was keeping Coutu on the roster. Moron.

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Keep him, replace him. Doesn't matter. As long as we don't spend an actual draft pick on a kicker and just get one of the many floating around out there (Hauschka included), I'm fine. There's very little difference between them, honestly.

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Why is talking about a kicker lame?

They are the butt of so many jokes, but that is the position will the most pressure on the team just below the quarterback. I always have respect for a good kicker and maybe moreso a good punter than can pin people behind the 10.


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I really like Hauschka. He's money from under 50, and though he doesn't have the strongest leg I'd rather someone who makes all the short & mid-range kicks. He'll only be 28 when the season starts so I'd keep him around as long as we can.

No reason to take a risk on a younger kicker who may not turn out so well. With our team we will score enough points we don't need someone banging 60 yard FGs.

I am confident whenever Hauschka goes out there - which is really what you want in a kicker.

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Unless Hauschka wants scads of money, I'm guessing he'll be back. Everyone wants a new kicker to replace a competent one until the new kicker blows a game-winning field goal.

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I love Steven from 45 and under, but when he walks out there for a 48+ yarder, its seems like he just chokes.

If an old man can kick a 63 yarder last year, I want my kicker to be pretty close to that. Any other thoughts are homer excuses


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Spokane wrote:
I love Steven from 45 and under, but when he walks out there for a 48+ yarder, its seems like he just chokes.

If an old man can kick a 63 yarder last year, I want my kicker to be pretty close to that. Any other thoughts are homer excuses


Not true at all, he's 12-13 from 40-50.

Missing a 50 yard field goal isn't choking, it's a low percentage kick. Unfortunately he doesn't kick in a dome like Blair Walsh.

I'd rather have a guy who we can depend on inside 50 then a guy who can make a 60 yarder but will miss a game winner >50 like Greg Z did.


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Could see us bringing in an UDFA or late draft pick to compete with Hauschka

That 3 of 8 from beyond 50 is misleading as I believe he's attempted 2 or 3 from 60+ .. Hauschka has been otherwise very reliable.

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I like him, but I think we could grab a good kicker in the draft. I'd like some distance on those kicks.


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Olindo Mare was pretty good for us. I wouldn't mind bringing him back.

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The noise that I make when I sneeze will be back with the Hawks.


Easily one of my favorite posts ever. Just got some weird looks in the store cuz I laughed out loud over it.

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You would suggest Josh Brown be a Seahawk again??????

Whatever you're drinking/smoking stop, cause its clearly clouding your brain.

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We have like 4 7th rounder right? Id like to see us use one on a kicker. How about that fat kid from Wazzu?

I just LOL'd thinking of the commish up there saying, "With the 225th pick in the NFL 2013 draft, the Seattle Seahawks select the fat kid from Washington State."

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I vote for Josh Brown. I always liked that guy.


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Brown was money down the stretch for the Bengals last year. I wouldn't mind if he was brought back. He's kind of a douche, but this is the same coaching staff that gave the kicking job to Jeff Reed before Hauschka was released by the Ravens.


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therealjohncarlson wrote:
We have like 4 7th rounder right? Id like to see us use one on a kicker. How about that fat kid from Wazzu?

I just LOL'd thinking of the commish up there saying, "With the 225th pick in the NFL 2013 draft, the Seattle Seahawks select the fat kid from Washington State."

:laugh:

Yep, in the first place, he's too fat, AND, he's too fat in the second place too :P


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I wish we could get that fat polish guy from the raiders :D


Janikowski? He's a big boy, could play OT in a pinch :D

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It's officially offseason when we are talking about kickers


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It's officially offseason when we are talking about kickers


It was officially the off-season when we had threads about trading Sidney Rice and acquiring T Jack in the same week.

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Olindo Mare was pretty good for us. I wouldn't mind bringing him back.


Mare is going to be 40, kickers seem to lose distance as they age.


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Olindo Mare was pretty good for us. I wouldn't mind bringing him back.


Mare is going to be 40, kickers seem to lose distance as they age.


Isn't that the curse of all men? :roll:


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I'm no FG kicker expert, but I hate way the ball comes off his foot.

Wouldn't mind seeing a new kicker.


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You would suggest Josh Brown be a Seahawk again??????

Whatever you're drinking/smoking stop, cause its clearly clouding your brain.

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But if we bring him back, we could re-enslave him. Gotta be some upside to that.


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Hauschka is money from under 45 yards. It would be hard to find someone better in the area that should be automatic. I'd take a consistant kicker over a power kicker any day.


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Brown was money down the stretch for the Bengals last year. I wouldn't mind if he was brought back. He's kind of a douche, but this is the same coaching staff that gave the kicking job to Jeff Reed before Hauschka was released by the Ravens.


I thought Haushka was released by the Bronchos in the preseason and then we picked him up..

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I go back and forth on Steven! The dude is pure gold from under 45, maybe one of the best in the NFL. However he was the 2nd worst at PATs and 50+ last year. I just get a little ill watching him walk out there for the longer kicks. It would be nice to see the kicker line up for a 55 yarder and not know the outcome. (career long 54).


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Bigpumpkin wrote:
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Olindo Mare was pretty good for us. I wouldn't mind bringing him back.


Mare is going to be 40, kickers seem to lose distance as they age.


Isn't that the curse of all men? :roll:



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We have like 4 7th rounder right? Id like to see us use one on a kicker. How about that fat kid from Wazzu?

I just LOL'd thinking of the commish up there saying, "With the 225th pick in the NFL 2013 draft, the Seattle Seahawks select the fat kid from Washington State."

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Too damn funny!


I don't care if he's 600 pounds, if he can boot 55-yarders consistently. Having a consistent long-range kicker can help change what opposing defenses need to do at the end of a close game.

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If they lost him, I might break out in a yawn, there are so many kickers out there, it's a non-factor.

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Carson Wiggs was signed to a future contract back on Feb 1st. He's got a big leg (once kicked a 67 yard field goal at Purdue) and was actually with the Seahawks in camp last year. I'd say he's the front runner if Hauschka is left to find an offer in FA.


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Man if we would have kept Wiggs, that 65 yarder to win in the playoffs would have been fun to watch.

But we have chip shot boy, so I will have to hold off on getting pumped up until we get to the 25.

Wiggs could work, but PC must have seen something he didn't like last time. I hope we do keep Wiggs as our kicker, just coach him up!


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I do think it'd be a little scary to go into a potential Super Bowl run with basically a rookie Kicker. But I guess you have to do it at some point eh?


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The ravens had a rookie kicker? Honestly i usually feel like the rookie kickers are way better then the veteran kickers


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