If we win out at the CLink, we are Super Bowl bound

ChrisB Bacon · Nov 10, 2013

Even with losses at SF and at NYG, winning out at home guarantees us the #1 seed.

The two playoff games would be at home.

Russell Wilson has never lost at home.

The road to the Super Bowl runs through the CLink.

Jazzhawk · Nov 10, 2013

We aren't losing at both NY AND SF, but, yes.

Seahawk Sailor · Nov 10, 2013

That is such a wild, almost unimaginable concept so early in the season! Incredible thing, and doubly so given our propensity to win at home. This is a great year to be a Seahawks fan, that is for sure.

ChrisB Bacon · Nov 10, 2013

Jazzhawk":17yq7hm0 said:
We aren't losing at both NY AND SF, but, yes.

Not the point, but I agree.

Just gives us an added reassurance.

GeekHawk · Nov 10, 2013

Whaddya mean, if?

SalishHawkFan · Nov 10, 2013

Yep, ending the season tied with the Niners still gives us the tiebreaker because we will have the better record vs common opponents. Strength of schedule no longer applies. Which means the division is ours if we can go 4-2 the rest of the way. HFA is clinched if we beat NO. Well, mathematically, the Lions could tie with us but since I find that extremely unlikely I'm not even going to bother figuring out the tiebreaker in that scenario.

Sac · Nov 10, 2013

Has any QB ever been undefeated at home in their first two seasons?

C-Dub · Nov 10, 2013

Lions could be 13-3 if they win out.
Seahawks 13-3 if they lose two (one being the Whiners) and beat NO.
*NO 13-3 if they win out (aside from @SEA).
*SF 13-3 if they win out.

*NO and SF both play each other.

Not sure who the tiebreaker would go to in that scenario.
http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures

According to #1, SEA would have beaten NO. NO and SF play each other. If SF beats NO, they we have tiebreaker over SF from common opponents. Then we'd have tiebreaker over Lions for common games (Lions lost to Arizona). If NO wins against SF, I'm not sure if #1 is factored in with Lions not playing NO and SEA.
Seems like NO and Lions would get it according to #2 since they'd be undefeated in division, and SEA would have lost 1 to SF (assuming they end up 13-3 or 12-4 losing to NO).

Realistically, Detroit loses a few. They are not "great." Detroit could screw us in the tie-breaking would we drop two more games.

Also, losing to NO would throw a wrench into it as well.

Either way, we control our own destiny.

ChrisB Bacon · Nov 10, 2013

C-Dub":3b3xdn0g said:
Lions could be 13-3 if they win out.
Seahawks 13-3 if they lose two (one being the Whiners) and beat NO.
*NO 13-3 if they win out (aside from @SEA).
*SF 13-3 if they win out.

*NO and SF both play each other.

Not sure who the tiebreaker would go to in that scenario.
http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures

According to #1, SEA would have beaten NO. NO and SF play each other. If SF beats NO, they we have tiebreaker over SF from common opponents. Then we'd have tiebreaker over Lions for common games (Lions lost to Arizona). If NO wins against SF, I'm not sure if #1 is factored in with Lions not playing NO and SEA.
Seems like NO and Lions would get it according to #2 since they'd be undefeated in division, and SEA would have lost 1 to SF (assuming they end up 13-3).

Realistically, Detroit loses a few. They are not "great." Detroit could screw us in the tie-breaking would we drop two more games.

Also, losing to NO would throw a wrench into it as well.

Either way, we control our own destiny.

I didn't include the Detroit scenario because it won't happen.

But anyway, I don't think divisional record applies for anything except for divisional tiebreakers.

C-Dub · Nov 10, 2013

ChrisB Bacon":ltg0r2t8 said:
C-Dub":ltg0r2t8 said:

Lions could be 13-3 if they win out.
Seahawks 13-3 if they lose two (one being the Whiners) and beat NO.
*NO 13-3 if they win out (aside from @SEA).
*SF 13-3 if they win out.

*NO and SF both play each other.

Not sure who the tiebreaker would go to in that scenario.
http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures

According to #1, SEA would have beaten NO. NO and SF play each other. If SF beats NO, they we have tiebreaker over SF from common opponents. Then we'd have tiebreaker over Lions for common games (Lions lost to Arizona). If NO wins against SF, I'm not sure if #1 is factored in with Lions not playing NO and SEA.
Seems like NO and Lions would get it according to #2 since they'd be undefeated in division, and SEA would have lost 1 to SF (assuming they end up 13-3).

Realistically, Detroit loses a few. They are not "great." Detroit could screw us in the tie-breaking would we drop two more games.

Also, losing to NO would throw a wrench into it as well.

Either way, we control our own destiny.

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I didn't include the Detroit scenario because it won't happen.

But anyway, I don't think divisional record applies for anything except for divisional tiebreakers.

Then what are the first steps for deciding tiebreakers outside of division?

hawksfansinceday1 · Nov 10, 2013

AceBoogie715 · Nov 10, 2013

SacHawk2.0":5109i0vl said:
Has any QB ever been undefeated at home in their first two seasons?

Great question. Does anyone know how to find this out?

C-Dub · Nov 10, 2013

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/standings/playoffrace

Ok. So regardless to the scenario, we'd hold the tiebreaker to SF from common games assuming we end up tied.

The two scenarios are 1. DET, NO, SEA and 2. DET, SEA if SF beat NO.

According to 1:
NO would have the best conference record. With SEA and DET having lost 2 within conference. SEA would have tiebreaker over Detroit with common games (Arizona [Detroit loss], Vikings, New York, Tampa).

According to 2:
SEA would have tiebreaker over Detroit with common games (Arizona [Detroit loss], Vikings, New York, Tampa).

Happy · Nov 10, 2013

AceBoogie715":10jtlld7 said:
SacHawk2.0":10jtlld7 said:

Has any QB ever been undefeated at home in their first two seasons?

Click to expand...

Great question. Does anyone know how to find this out?

Pro football reference. Look at the finder tools and try some different queries. Highly addictive.

pocketprotector · Nov 10, 2013

C-Dub":31yp73gp said:
Lions could be 13-3 if they win out.
Seahawks 13-3 if they lose two (one being the Whiners) and beat NO.
*NO 13-3 if they win out (aside from @SEA).
*SF 13-3 if they win out.

*NO and SF both play each other.

Not sure who the tiebreaker would go to in that scenario.
http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures

According to #1, SEA would have beaten NO. NO and SF play each other. If SF beats NO, they we have tiebreaker over SF from common opponents. Then we'd have tiebreaker over Lions for common games (Lions lost to Arizona). If NO wins against SF, I'm not sure if #1 is factored in with Lions not playing NO and SEA.
Seems like NO and Lions would get it according to #2 since they'd be undefeated in division, and SEA would have lost 1 to SF (assuming they end up 13-3 or 12-4 losing to NO).

Realistically, Detroit loses a few. They are not "great." Detroit could screw us in the tie-breaking would we drop two more games.

Also, losing to NO would throw a wrench into it as well.

Either way, we control our own destiny.

If SEA, NO, and DET are 13-3, with a SEA win over NO, NO would get the number one seed. They would have lost to only 1 NFC team while SEA and DET would have lost to two NFC teams.

pocketprotector · Nov 10, 2013

C-Dub":2gq8s4bf said:
According to 2:
SEA would have tiebreaker over Detroit with common games (Arizona [Detroit loss], Vikings, New York, Tampa).

In the win at home, lose on the road 13-3 Tie scenarios, SEA will lose the New York game that is credited here as a win.

Seahawk Sailor · Nov 10, 2013

pocketprotector":1q1okxxa said:
C-Dub":1q1okxxa said:

Lions could be 13-3 if they win out.
Seahawks 13-3 if they lose two (one being the Whiners) and beat NO.
*NO 13-3 if they win out (aside from @SEA).
*SF 13-3 if they win out.

*NO and SF both play each other.

Not sure who the tiebreaker would go to in that scenario.
http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures

According to #1, SEA would have beaten NO. NO and SF play each other. If SF beats NO, they we have tiebreaker over SF from common opponents. Then we'd have tiebreaker over Lions for common games (Lions lost to Arizona). If NO wins against SF, I'm not sure if #1 is factored in with Lions not playing NO and SEA.
Seems like NO and Lions would get it according to #2 since they'd be undefeated in division, and SEA would have lost 1 to SF (assuming they end up 13-3 or 12-4 losing to NO).

Realistically, Detroit loses a few. They are not "great." Detroit could screw us in the tie-breaking would we drop two more games.

Also, losing to NO would throw a wrench into it as well.

Either way, we control our own destiny.

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If SEA, NO, and DET are 13-3, with a SEA win over NO, NO would get the number one seed. They would have lost to only 1 NFC team while SEA and DET would have lost to two NFC teams.

True, they'd have lost to only one NFC team, but head-to-head matchups (which we'd have won under this scenario) are the first tie-breaker. Advantage Seahawks.

pocketprotector · Nov 10, 2013

What if (6-3)Carolina and Detroit win out. In the Win at home 13-3 scenario.

C-Dub · Nov 10, 2013

pocketprotector":q1r4ho1d said:
C-Dub":q1r4ho1d said:

According to 2:
SEA would have tiebreaker over Detroit with common games (Arizona [Detroit loss], Vikings, New York, Tampa).

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In the win at home, lose on the road 13-3 Tie scenarios, SEA will lose the New York game that is credited here as a win.

Good point. Then it would be SOV, which they would hold.

Also CAR could end up 13-3. But we'd have tiebreaker over them with conference.

pocketprotector · Nov 10, 2013

Seahawk Sailor":12urtsp6 said:
True, they'd have lost to only one NFC team, but head-to-head matchups (which we'd have won under this scenario) are the first tie-breaker. Advantage Seahawks.

Head to head only applies if one team beats the other two or if one team loses to the other two. It would not apply.

If we win out at the CLink, we are Super Bowl bound

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