Percy Harvin and the 2014 Run to the Super Bowl

To make cap room for Percy Harvin's contract in 2014, we released Clemons, Bryant, McDonald, Thurmond, and Tate.This proved to be a mistake since we traded Harvin for basically nothing after about week 6 then there was locker room recovery. additionally, we lost defensive lineman such as Marsh, Mebane, and Hill. Not good since already lost dlineman. Also, we dealt with an injured Maxwell. Also, in the Super Bowl we lost Lane and Avril. And, Sherman, Thomas, and Chancellor played through injuries one of which is requiring surgery. in spite of all this, the Seahawks were on the door step of almost winning another super bowl. That tells you how great our coach, quarterback, running back and core players are. It's amazing.

Redemption 2015.

It is. I do have my concerns for next season. Teams now know that they have to be patient against us,,,,,,,no matter what the score is and if they break from that, it is over.

Even with that said at our weakest times last season, ie, Dallas, San Diego, KC, St Louis, we still could have pulled out a victory. Not only to mention how decimated we were in the SB (no excuses Pats played a good game)

This team's (Pete Carroll version) best trait has to be that they almost never get blown out. It's fun to watch a team that is almost always competitive. Even the 7-9 with Ole Hassy at the helm was fun to watch. :0190l:

farhat":33nvs0b1 said:

To make cap room for Percy Harvin's contract in 2014, we released Clemons, Bryant, McDonald, Thurmond, and Tate.This proved to be a mistake since we traded Harvin for basically nothing after about week 6 then there was locker room recovery. additionally, we lost defensive lineman such as Marsh, Mebane, and Hill. Not good since already lost dlineman. Also, we dealt with an injured Maxwell. Also, in the Super Bowl we lost Lane and Avril. And, Sherman, Thomas, and Chancellor played through injuries one of which is requiring surgery. in spite of all this, the Seahawks were on the door step of almost winning another super bowl. That tells you how great our coach, quarterback, running back and core players are. It's amazing.

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we released Clemons and Bryant only. The others went to the FA well and were rewarded more handsomely than we were willing to pay.

Also, I don't see the Clemons/Bryant releases to be mistakes.

Those moves were easily forecast. And in terms of roster building and sustained success -- necessary. But beyond that, Clemons and Bryant were released right about the time where they should have. Clemons is not the same player he was pre injury in Washington. And he's set to be released by Jacksonville already after only one season.

The defensive model simply was moving away from having a massive DE role already in Bryant's last year. His snap counts were dropping off a cliff. Simply put, we had better DE options on the roster. Bryant filled a void when he moved over. But once our talent levels at DE were sufficient to no longer need a one dimensional DE -- his contributions and opportunities shrank.

Clearly, the Harvin contract killed the possibility of keeping Tate. I never felt like the trade itself was a bad idea. But the committing of massive dollars to a player that they could have extended later and gotten a better understanding of how he'd fit I felt was rushed. Quite obviously, we traded Tate in addition to the picks by virtue of the cap commitment to Harvin.

farhat":3n0bqvxf said:

To make cap room for Percy Harvin's contract in 2014, we released Clemons, Bryant, McDonald, Thurmond, and Tate.

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You're oversimplifying our cap situation with this statement. We also had to clear space to give guys like Thomas, Sherman, Baldwin, Wright, Bennett and Avril new deals......as well as more money for Marshawn.

If you're nitpicking Harvin's impact on the cap in regards to allocating salary for position groups? Then Tate was the casualty.

my point was that the Harvin trade did not work out as hoped. but, even with that and all the injuries, we still almost won the super bowl. i feel good about our ability to not over pay for a big name wide receiver again in the future and look forward to the depth we will build this offseason.

It was a bad trade, oh well. I'm sure the team learned from that mistake and hopefully won't make a mistake in trying to add a personality that isn't team first or from what it sounded like from the outside, hence not going back into the Dallas game and complaining about not being used as much down field, even though that wasn't his strong suit.

The team was looking to add that explosive dimension to the offense to open up the running game even more (and look at what it did in those two Denver games, the Chargers game and the first Green Bay game), hopefully they can make a move to get a WR or TE that can be a game changer and open up the offense a bit more in the draft this year.

We never should have traded for that little harvin. He can't run routes & offers nothing in the red zone.

Don't get me wrong...Harbin can be a amazing move weapon as long as he has elite reciever pulling coverage and leaving him open on screens & such.

Hawks needed a big WR for the redzone & that can beat double coverage.

tb1689":2hnwvufo said:

This team's (Pete Carroll version) best trait has to be that they almost never get blown out. It's fun to watch a team that is almost always competitive. Even the 7-9 with Ole Hassy at the helm was fun to watch. :0190l:

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Pre-Russ they got blown out. I know, I know that's all credited to our D, but just sayin.

Harvin may not have been a good WR,But do discount his contribution in the Superbowl.

He broke the broncos hopes after the half . period ! The broncos said this !

I don't like him,but he helped .

hawksurething":1hqqenrk said:

Harvin may not have been a good WR,But do discount his contribution in the Superbowl.

He broke the broncos hopes after the half . period ! The broncos said this !

I don't like him,but he helped .

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Yup, as bad as he was the following year and as bad as the gamble didn't work in the long run. He had a couple big catches in the NFC Divisional game that definitely contributed to that win. In the SB he had some huge runs, a big catch, and like u said, the kick off return was probably the biggest. Coming out in the second half with a 22 point lead gave a high probability of winning, but had the Broncos stuffed the return, possibly ended up with a 3 and out or heck safety...momentum swing could have been huge. But no, Percy returned it. took away ANY game plan they had for the second half, momentum impossible to re-build outside of RW throwing 2 pick sixes in a row.

hawksurething":19fqx6gg said:

Harvin may not have been a good WR,But do discount his contribution in the Superbowl.

He broke the broncos hopes after the half . period ! The broncos said this !

I don't like him,but he helped .

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Percy's contributions are still grossly overvalued by you guys. Seahawks win by 30+ if he doesnt play in the game.

Did his TD count for 6 points like every other TD? Yes.

Did it have any effect on the game? No it did not. His TD came in garbage time.


Besides, you guys don't seem to comprehend the fact tuat if Harvin actually played the whole 2013 season we probably wouldn't have even made the Super Bowl. We were able to make the SB because he WAS NOT out there turning our offense into the crappy jet sweep offense we saw at the begining of 2014 season.

Feel free to pretend that Harvin contributed to our success, but his biggest contribution was that he was on the bench instead of the field for almost the whole season.

The opening kickoff of the 2nd half is garbage time??? :th2thumbs:
Now that is rich. The Defense of the Bronco's flat out had to game plan for the guy, so yes he DID contribute. You could see it on the field, his presence changed what the Defense had to do.

SoulfishHawk":2a4tm9t9 said:

The opening kickoff of the 2nd half is garbage time??? :th2thumbs:
Now that is rich. The Defense of the Bronco's flat out had to game plan for the guy, so yes he DID contribute. You could see it on the field, his presence changed what the Defense had to do.

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Yes, the ENTIRE 2nd half was garbage time. If you had watched the Super Bowl and been paying attention you would have seen that.

They flat out had to game plan for him? 100% disagree.

He can't run routes, and he can't run between the tackles. He is a RB who can only run to the outside.

Harvin is just about the easiest player to neutralize.

Why do you think he has sucked so bad for the last 2 years?

Harvin is the LEAST versatile "skill" player in the NFL due to him ONLY being able to run to the outside.

The NFL has already figured out that he doesnt need to be stopped because he never really starts. How do you stop a player that can't really do anything in the first place?

bjornanderson21":f1gd4jkf said:

SoulfishHawk":f1gd4jkf said:

The opening kickoff of the 2nd half is garbage time??? :th2thumbs:
Now that is rich. The Defense of the Bronco's flat out had to game plan for the guy, so yes he DID contribute. You could see it on the field, his presence changed what the Defense had to do.

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Yes, the ENTIRE 2nd half was garbage time. If you had watched the Super Bowl and been paying attention you would have seen that.

They flat out had to game plan for him? 100% disagree.

He can't run routes, and he can't run between the tackles. He is a RB who can only run to the outside.

Harvin is just about the easiest player to neutralize.

Why do you think he has sucked so bad for the last 2 years?

Harvin is the LEAST versatile "skill" player in the NFL due to him ONLY being able to run to the outside.

The NFL has already figured out that he doesnt need to be stopped because he never really starts. How do you stop a player that can't really do anything in the first place?

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BJ's 349th bash Harvin post.

Hilarious response to the truth. Watch the game, AGAIN. When they moved him around on the quick handoff's, you can see the entire defense following him. It happened when he didn't get it as well.

bjornanderson2[quote="hawksurething":zen6d3br said:

Harvin may not have been a good WR,But do discount his contribution in the Superbowl.

He broke the broncos hopes after the half . period ! The broncos said this !

I don't like him,but he helped .

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Percy's contributions are still grossly overvalued by you guys. Seahawks win by 30+ if he doesnt play in the game.

Did his TD count for 6 points like every other TD? Yes.

Did it have any effect on the game? No it did not. His TD came in garbage time.


Besides, you guys don't seem to comprehend the fact tuat if Harvin actually played the whole 2013 season we probably wouldn't have even made the Super Bowl. We were able to make the SB because he WAS NOT out there turning our offense into the crappy jet sweep offense we saw at the begining of 2014 season.

Feel free to pretend that Harvin contributed to our success, but his biggest contribution was that he was on the bench instead of the field for almost the whole season.[/quote]

Read !

I said harvin is NOT a WR !
Jeesh.

Peyton has came back from 28 points before. Broncos players said out of their mouth harvin broke their will for any chance of a come back. Did you see Peyton sink after that run back ?

Percy is not a WR. Never was. He is just a move weapon with I don't like. I like Stud WRs that must be double teamed or they won't be stopped by any CB including Revis. Like marshall.

Late in the 2013 season, the Seahawks offense was struggling. People were complaining about the offensive line and wide receivers (Sound familiar?). We couldn't do a whole lot at SF, or at home vs. AZ and lost both games. We did a little better at home vs. STL and won. When Percy Harvin came into the lineup against New Orleans in the divisional round of the playoffs he opened up the offense. There were larger holes for Marshawn Lynch. On Lynch's touchdown the safety chased Harvin instead of staying in the middle to defend Lynch. At halftime, prior to Percy's concussion, we were up 16-0. In the 2nd half without Harvin, we only scored 1 touchdown late in the 4th quarter.

Defense feeds off the offense. Offense feeds off the defense. Football is a game of momentum and energy. Of course, you could make a strong argument we would've beat Denver in the Super Bowl without Harvin. However, he clearly was a factor that Denver was not ready for. They had no idea that jet sweep was coming. Harvin had the longest run in that Super Bowl on that play. Harvin kept the Broncos on their heels and kept the momentum in our favor. And of course, he took the hearts out of the Broncos by beginning the 2nd half with a kickoff return for a touchdown.

So, while Percy Harvin's addition contributed to a lack of depth on our team and didn't pan out the way we wanted to, he did help us get to and win a Super Bowl in the 2013 season.