Irvin is really, REALLY underrated....

He sets the edge, gets pressure, is brilliant in space an in coverage. He's a just a very key cog of the defense. I know it's easy to point at his two glaring guffaws; Rivers and Romo are vets and played him. That's what they do.

He played great today. Love how he snuffed out the read option.

Kid's a baller.

I love him....as long as he remembers to stay on-sides.

Reaneypark":nq6cz6u9 said:

He played great today. Love how he snuffed out the read option.

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At his position, the fact you don't hear his name at times also means he's doing his job.

He's a great piece of the puzzle. Fans that don't really know X's and O's can't comprehend how good he is. (Unger for that matter also.)

If Hawk's mustered consistent interior pressure, he'd be among the league sack leaders. And he's playing way better against the run from DE than in 2012.

I will eat crow on this one. I called him out as mediocre and he is stepping it up lately. Awesome. This is something I love being wrong about.

So some of us were wrong and the kid is actually learning the game and becoming a key versatile player?

Grahamhawker":rexou3gt said:

If Hawk's mustered consistent interior pressure, he'd be among the league sack leaders. And he's playing way better against the run than in 2012.

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I think there are times when he is pass rushing and gets completely stymied and shuts off the motor, when he could keep trying and hopefully come back into the play, but he has developed a rudimentary spin move now and looks to be a bit more consistent in getting pressure. Plus, he's a Swiss Army Knife of player.

cdallan":3bgpu81v said:

Grahamhawker":3bgpu81v said:

If Hawk's mustered consistent interior pressure, he'd be among the league sack leaders. And he's playing way better against the run than in 2012.

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I think there are times when he is pass rushing and gets completely stymied and shuts off the motor, when he could keep trying and hopefully come back into the play, but he has developed a rudimentary spin move now and looks to be a bit more consistent in getting pressure. Plus, he's a Swiss Army Knife of player.

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Great point. Leave it to our Swiss poster to make this reference.

Agreed. Just the versatility Irvin offers is amazing. He was covering a speedy Ellington on some plays too. He hasn't even reached his ceiling yet. Once he puts everything together consistently, watch out.

pehawk":1z1uwatu said:

He sets the edge, gets pressure, is brilliant in space an in coverage. He's a just a very key cog of the defense. I know it's easy to point at his two glaring guffaws; Rivers and Romo are vets and played him. That's what they do.

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disagree. He 's improving and getting better but up until this game hasn't been very consistent. He needs to be playing like this. He hasn't been playing up to his potential.

Chukarhawk":t0iod85b said:

pehawk":t0iod85b said:

He sets the edge, gets pressure, is brilliant in space an in coverage. He's a just a very key cog of the defense. I know it's easy to point at his two glaring guffaws; Rivers and Romo are vets and played him. That's what they do.

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disagree. He 's improving and getting better but up until this game hasn't been very consistent. He needs to be playing like this. He hasn't been playing up to his potential.

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I disagree and ask how so? He's great in coverage, he sets the edge, gets pressure when asked. What say you, sweetie?

pehawk":1h2ehfiq said:

cdallan":1h2ehfiq said:

Grahamhawker":1h2ehfiq said:

If Hawk's mustered consistent interior pressure, he'd be among the league sack leaders. And he's playing way better against the run than in 2012.

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I think there are times when he is pass rushing and gets completely stymied and shuts off the motor, when he could keep trying and hopefully come back into the play, but he has developed a rudimentary spin move now and looks to be a bit more consistent in getting pressure. Plus, he's a Swiss Army Knife of player.

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Great point. Leave it to our Swiss poster to make this reference.

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Incorrect. I'm not neutral, and I will absolutely kick Chukarhawk's ass.

pehawk":2ta94v2e said:

Chukarhawk":2ta94v2e said:

pehawk":2ta94v2e said:

He sets the edge, gets pressure, is brilliant in space an in coverage. He's a just a very key cog of the defense. I know it's easy to point at his two glaring guffaws; Rivers and Romo are vets and played him. That's what they do.

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disagree. He 's improving and getting better but up until this game hasn't been very consistent. He needs to be playing like this. He hasn't been playing up to his potential.

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I disagree and ask how so? He's great in coverage, he sets the edge, gets pressure when asked. What say you, sweetie?

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Go look at his numbers. against KC and the Faders he had a grand total of 2 tackles combined.

So consensus is...

Resign him longterm on the cheap. 5 years 25mil?

Chukarhawk":1j5azo1u said:

pehawk":1j5azo1u said:

Chukarhawk":1j5azo1u said:

pehawk":1j5azo1u said:

He sets the edge, gets pressure, is brilliant in space an in coverage. He's a just a very key cog of the defense. I know it's easy to point at his two glaring guffaws; Rivers and Romo are vets and played him. That's what they do.

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disagree. He 's improving and getting better but up until this game hasn't been very consistent. He needs to be playing like this. He hasn't been playing up to his potential.

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I disagree and ask how so? He's great in coverage, he sets the edge, gets pressure when asked. What say you, sweetie?

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Go look at his numbers. against KC and the Faders he had a grand total of 2 tackles combined.

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His job is to funnel plays inside, most of the time. Then drop into coverage. If he does that well, guess what? No tackles or mentions. If he didn't do those things, it'd be pretty apparent.

Chukarhawk":25wplh99 said:

pehawk":25wplh99 said:

He sets the edge, gets pressure, is brilliant in space an in coverage. He's a just a very key cog of the defense. I know it's easy to point at his two glaring guffaws; Rivers and Romo are vets and played him. That's what they do.

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disagree. He 's improving and getting better but up until this game hasn't been very consistent. He needs to be playing like this. He hasn't been playing up to his potential.

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Well, the major knock on Bruce is that he hasn't played to his potential (or draft status). Let's just say he's a hell of a lot closer.

FortWorthSeahawk":w27bbog9 said:

I love him....as long as he remembers to stay on-sides.

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I think you've mistaken Irvin for Bennett. Must be damn near the record for offsides.