Hawks46":3fmf47uz said:Meh. I think it has more to do with vision.
He only pulls the trigger on receivers that are wide open, so the high completion % and low int % can be explained.
I'm more worried with the guys he's NOT seeing, and the passes he's not throwing.
Hawks46":1h26h569 said:Meh. I think it has more to do with vision.
He only pulls the trigger on receivers that are wide open, so the high completion % and low int % can be explained.
I'm more worried with the guys he's NOT seeing, and the passes he's not throwing.
Wilson, listed at 5 feet 11, struggles with anticipation from inside the pocket in part because there are targets he simply can’t see. He rarely attempts to throw short or intermediate passes over the middle. Most of his throws go outside in the flat or down the sideline.
“Even when guys are open over the middle of the field, and I’ve seen guys a lot of times open over the middle, a lot of times he just doesn’t have the vision to see those guys,” Warren Moon said. “That’s always going to be a detriment to him. If there’s a criticism of Russell’s game, that would be the criticism.”
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“When he’s late on his timing or he misses his receiver, you can see that a lineman was right in his path,” former NFL quarterback Hugh Millen said. “You can see that he momentarily freezes, and he can’t see. It’s very obvious. I don’t draw it as a problem anymore; it just is what it is.”
[/quote]DavidSeven":1ririoxe said:I guess what I would want to know before making conclusions based on this data is what the actual plays look like and how many times he maybe could have thrown but didn't.
DavidSeven":qhd64zza said:I guess what I would want to know before making conclusions based on this data is what the actual plays look like and how many times he maybe could have thrown but didn't. The efficiency won't go down by not throwing it. So, in a sense, his efficiency in the area improves because he only throws to very visible players in the area.
Regardless of whether or not the numbers bear out there being a true limitation, it is something that credible people have spotted too.
Jayson Jenks, Seattle Times:
Wilson, listed at 5 feet 11, struggles with anticipation from inside the pocket in part because there are targets he simply can’t see. He rarely attempts to throw short or intermediate passes over the middle. Most of his throws go outside in the flat or down the sideline.
“Even when guys are open over the middle of the field, and I’ve seen guys a lot of times open over the middle, a lot of times he just doesn’t have the vision to see those guys,” Warren Moon said. “That’s always going to be a detriment to him. If there’s a criticism of Russell’s game, that would be the criticism.”
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“When he’s late on his timing or he misses his receiver, you can see that a lineman was right in his path,” former NFL quarterback Hugh Millen said. “You can see that he momentarily freezes, and he can’t see. It’s very obvious. I don’t draw it as a problem anymore; it just is what it is.”
Hawks46":1hl9s6z2 said:Meh. I think it has more to do with vision.
He only pulls the trigger on receivers that are wide open, so the high completion % and low int % can be explained.
I'm more worried with the guys he's NOT seeing, and the passes he's not throwing.
MontanaHawk05":2onz6hck said:DavidSeven":2onz6hck said:I guess what I would want to know before making conclusions based on this data is what the actual plays look like and how many times he maybe could have thrown but didn't.
Recon_Hawk":3bfbbrut said:Or sack column (and not always because of poor protection).
aawolf":17oelwpv said:Hey, Laloosh:
Could you please do an all-22 of the offensive plays in the Fourth Quarter? Especially on third down. I tried watching the broadcast versions, but I couldn't see whether the receivers were open or not. I know we are on a short week, so I was hoping to see something. I check this site primarily for those posts, and I would greatly appreciate any effort you could make to do it. Thank you if you are able, if not, thanks anyway for insightful posts you bring. I was going to start a thread asking this question, but it seems even more presumptuous than me just posting it on a thread you started.
aawolf":1r2yjnca said:Hey, Laloosh:
Could you please do an all-22 of the offensive plays in the Fourth Quarter? Especially on third down. I tried watching the broadcast versions, but I couldn't see whether the receivers were open or not. I know we are on a short week, so I was hoping to see something. I check this site primarily for those posts, and I would greatly appreciate any effort you could make to do it. Thank you if you are able, if not, thanks anyway for insightful posts you bring. I was going to start a thread asking this question, but it seems even more presumptuous than me just posting it on a thread you started.
mrt144":2odctqyb said:Recon_Hawk":2odctqyb said:MontanaHawk05":2odctqyb said:DavidSeven":2odctqyb said:I guess what I would want to know before making conclusions based on this data is what the actual plays look like and how many times he maybe could have thrown but didn't.
Exactly. A lot of Seattle's passing plays end up in the rushing column.
Or sack column (and not always because of poor protection).