Seahawks virtually assured of #1 Seed Now ...

[SoHo9erFan]

I'm just curious,how does SF win the tie-break if they win out and we lose out?

the 49ers would have a better divisional record. the 49ers would be 5-1 within the division, and the Hawks would be 3-3

 

[SoHo9erFan]

here's a weird thought. the Hawks could really mess with the 49ers playoff shot if they lost to the Cards next week. since the seahawks have virtually sealed the #1 seed, what if PC and the Hawks purposefully lose to the Cards by sitting all the starters...

electing to sit the starters week 16 and playing them week 17 also prevents the rustiness factor that plagues teams with 1st round bye

Pete doesn't rest starters.

yeah, again, i don't see any negatives to resting them week 16. you guys would still have a game week 17 to get back into the flow and what not

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

I'm just curious,how does SF win the tie-break if they win out and we lose out?

We'd lose the division because we'd be 3-3 in division and they'd be better than that. The teams would have the same overall record and first tie breaker to decide division winner is head to head (tied at one each) and second is division record.That would make the Hawks a 5 seed. No thanks. WIN NEXT WEEK HAWKS!!!

 

[BlueThunder]

technically that's not true. if saints won out and the hawks lose their next two, the saints would have the one seed.

This is incorrect. We own the tie-breaker. If we lost 2 and they won 2, we would be tied at 12-4 with us owning the head to head tie-breaker. Do your research.

 

[Scottemojo]

here's a weird thought. the Hawks could really mess with the 49ers playoff shot if they lost to the Cards next week. since the seahawks have virtually sealed the #1 seed, what if PC and the Hawks purposefully lose to the Cards by sitting all the starters...

electing to sit the starters week 16 and playing them week 17 also prevents the rustiness factor that plagues teams with 1st round bye

Pete doesn't rest starters.

yeah, again, i don't see any negatives to resting them week 16. you guys would still have a game week 17 to get back into the flow and what not

Negatives? Pete's Always Compete mantra would be hollow. He has said so, last year when our final game vs the Rams had no meaning.

 

[Canhawks]

I'm just curious,how does SF win the tie-break if they win out and we lose out?

the 49ers would have a better divisional record. the 49ers would be 5-1 within the division, and the Hawks would be 3-3

Ok,for whatever reason I thought it came down to common opponents,but that explains it.Aint gonna happen anyway

 

[SoHo9erFan]

technically that's not true. if saints won out and the hawks lose their next two, the saints would have the one seed.

This is incorrect. We own the tie-breaker. If we lost 2 and they won 2, we would be tied at 12-4 with us owning the head to head tie-breaker. Do your research.

yeah, but we were talking about the game today. if the saints won, they would still have 3 losses. and if they won out, they'd still have 3 losses while the seahawks would have 4

 

[SeahawksMSHing]

Division Record we would be 3-3 if lost next two and 49ers would be 5-1 hence we have not clinched division yet... just beat Az and clinch everything...

 

[SoHo9erFan]

here's a weird thought. the Hawks could really mess with the 49ers playoff shot if they lost to the Cards next week. since the seahawks have virtually sealed the #1 seed, what if PC and the Hawks purposefully lose to the Cards by sitting all the starters...

electing to sit the starters week 16 and playing them week 17 also prevents the rustiness factor that plagues teams with 1st round bye

Pete doesn't rest starters.

yeah, again, i don't see any negatives to resting them week 16. you guys would still have a game week 17 to get back into the flow and what not

Negatives? Pete's Always Compete mantra would be hollow. He has said so, last year when our final game vs the Rams had no meaning.

again, that was the final game. but, yes, the compete mantra would lose its mystic i guess

 

[Smelly McUgly]

Our starters play regularly on special friggin' teams, we'll get at least a half out of them in Week Seventeen and they will go balls out next week, too.

 

[Hawkscanner]

I don't know how many of you have connected the dots ... but by virtue of the Saints losing today ... they have officially been eliminated from the #1 Seed. The very best they can get to is 12-4 ... and of course Seattle holds the tiebreaker, which means Seattle would win the #1 Seed if for some reason they lose the final 2 home games.

The same thing is true with Carolina -- Seattle also owns the tiebreaker there as well.

The ONLY NFC team that could possibly pose a threat to the #1 Seed ... is San Francisco. Next Seahawks win OR San Francisco Loss and the #1 Seed and HFA throughout the playoffs is Seattle's. Simple as that. Just FYI for those who haven't realized that yet. :mrgreen:

The saints game today means absolutely nothing. As soon as we won today we only needed one more win to clinch hfa. After the saints loss that won't change. We still need one more win to clinch both our division and hfa

Sorry, but if the Seahawks had lost both of our last 2 games ... and the Saints had won out, they would have had the #1 Seed at 13-3. We would have finished 12-4.

 

[SoHo9erFan]

I don't know how many of you have connected the dots ... but by virtue of the Saints losing today ... they have officially been eliminated from the #1 Seed. The very best they can get to is 12-4 ... and of course Seattle holds the tiebreaker, which means Seattle would win the #1 Seed if for some reason they lose the final 2 home games.

The same thing is true with Carolina -- Seattle also owns the tiebreaker there as well.

The ONLY NFC team that could possibly pose a threat to the #1 Seed ... is San Francisco. Next Seahawks win OR San Francisco Loss and the #1 Seed and HFA throughout the playoffs is Seattle's. Simple as that. Just FYI for those who haven't realized that yet. :mrgreen:

The saints game today means absolutely nothing. As soon as we won today we only needed one more win to clinch hfa. After the saints loss that won't change. We still need one more win to clinch both our division and hfa

Sorry, but if the Seahawks had lost both of our last 2 games ... and the Saints had won out, they would have had the #1 Seed at 13-3. We would have finished 12-4.

exactly.. don't know what blue thunder is talking about

 

[Polaris]

The Saints have NOT been eliminated from the #1 seed. However, by vitue of the Saints losing today and Seattle winning (and by Philly losing), Seattle has been eliminated from the 2,3,4, and 6 seeds. Seattle is assured of a playoff berth, but it can only be the #1 or #5 seed.

The only way the Saints get the #1 seed is for them to win out, Seattle to lose out and for San Fran to win out. San Fran gets the divisional record, and New Orleans would get the #1 seed vs San Fran by virtue of head to head.

 

[SoHo9erFan]

Our starters play regularly on special friggin' teams, we'll get at least a half out of them in Week Seventeen and they will go balls out next week, too.

yeah, i guess i was thinking of a dumb hypothetical..

starters playing on STs happens on a lot of teams btw

 

[Polaris]

technically that's not true. if saints won out and the hawks lose their next two, the saints would have the one seed.

This is incorrect. We own the tie-breaker. If we lost 2 and they won 2, we would be tied at 12-4 with us owning the head to head tie-breaker. Do your research.

That isn't completely incorrect. SoHo8nerFan forgot to add that San Fran would also have to win out. Then and only then would the Saints get the #1 seed.

The Saints game is very meaingful because it means that Seattle is locked into either the #1 or #5 seed. All other seeds for Seattle are eliminated.

 

[BlueThunder]

I don't know how many of you have connected the dots ... but by virtue of the Saints losing today ... they have officially been eliminated from the #1 Seed. The very best they can get to is 12-4 ... and of course Seattle holds the tiebreaker, which means Seattle would win the #1 Seed if for some reason they lose the final 2 home games.

The same thing is true with Carolina -- Seattle also owns the tiebreaker there as well.

The ONLY NFC team that could possibly pose a threat to the #1 Seed ... is San Francisco. Next Seahawks win OR San Francisco Loss and the #1 Seed and HFA throughout the playoffs is Seattle's. Simple as that. Just FYI for those who haven't realized that yet. :mrgreen:

The saints game today means absolutely nothing. As soon as we won today we only needed one more win to clinch hfa. After the saints loss that won't change. We still need one more win to clinch both our division and hfa

Sorry, but if the Seahawks had lost both of our last 2 games ... and the Saints had won out, they would have had the #1 Seed at 13-3. We would have finished 12-4.

exactly.. don't know what blue thunder is talking about

I didn't know you were talking about had the Saints won and we lost today. I thought you were talking about after the results of todays games. Guess I should have paid more attention to the previous posts... I figured it was all moot since the games are already over.

 

[SoHo9erFan]

technically that's not true. if saints won out and the hawks lose their next two, the saints would have the one seed.

This is incorrect. We own the tie-breaker. If we lost 2 and they won 2, we would be tied at 12-4 with us owning the head to head tie-breaker. Do your research.

That isn't completely incorrect. SoHo8nerFan forgot to add that San Fran would also have to win out. Then and only then would the Saints get the #1 seed.

The Saints game is very meaingful because it means that Seattle is locked into either the #1 or #5 seed. All other seeds for Seattle are eliminated.

polaris, we were talking about the saints game today and how it was "meaningless" according to a poster.

if the saints won today, and then won out, they would be the #1 (if the hawks lost their remaining games, which is practically impossible)...

anyways, this whole discussion is kinda pointless considering the Seahawks will at least win 1 of their remaining games

 

[kidhawk]

The saints game today means absolutely nothing. As soon as we won today we only needed one more win to clinch hfa. After the saints loss that won't change. We still need one more win to clinch both our division and hfa

technically that's not true. if saints won out and the hawks lose their next two, the saints would have the one seed.

but the likelihood of that scenario playing out was slim to none

Re-read what I've said. After our win...once we won we had 12 wins.... I also said we need one more win to clinch. Win or lose the saints don't change that. Even if they won the could only get to 13. With 1 more win we will be at13 and hold the tie breaker.

 

[JGreen79]

technically that's not true. if saints won out and the hawks lose their next two, the saints would have the one seed.

This is incorrect. We own the tie-breaker. If we lost 2 and they won 2, we would be tied at 12-4 with us owning the head to head tie-breaker. Do your research.

Now if said scenario happend and SF wins out as well then NO gets the 1 seed SF the 2 and SEA the 5. Same thing goes if it's CAR instead of NO at 12-4 with SF and SEA.

 

[Polaris]

My point then for what it's worth is that the Saints game wasn't meaningless to us, but one more win by Seattle would render it so. Had San Fran lost, Seattle would have clinched the enchilda today. Oh well.

In fact Seattle's position depends extremely little on the rest of the league now. If Seattle wins or ties *OR* San Fran loses or ties, Seattle clinches HFA. The only way Seattle doesn't clinch HFA is for Seattle to lose out AND San Fran to win out. I think that combination is rather unlikely.