Rex Ryan to the Bills

[SeatownJay]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12149 ... head-coach

So he goes from one AFC East team with a good defense but no QB to another AFC East team with a good defense but no QB.

 

[Sarlacc83]

Should have gone to Atlanta.

 

[FireHawk79]

Should have gone to Atlanta.

Agreed! Amkes no sense to me why he goes to the bills, only reason I see is he stays in NY. But Atlanta seemed like the better job to me.

 

[pehawk]

Well, Greg Roman is going with him. I think that's the only reason the Bills are doing it, Rex WITH Roman should work and counter any incompetence Rex may show offensively. If they can retain Schwartz, that's one hell of a staff.

That Bills squad is FULL of talent. Even on offense its full of talent. EJ hasn't shown much, but he was the closest to Wilson intangible wise in that draft. I think Roman will get the most out of him.

The Bills job is a good job...that's such a stacked roster.

 

[Scottemojo]

I wonder if having two shots a year at Woody had something to do with it?
Get him a QB, probably time to get another RB too. That D with rex is going to be something.

 

[Sarlacc83]

I wonder if having two shots a year at Woody had something to do with it?
Get him a QB, probably time to get another RB too. That D with rex is going to be something.

This is the truth. They had a borderline elite defense this year (#2 in weighted DVOA), and they almost assuredly take the next step in 2015.

 

[brimsalabim]

Kind of scary if they get the QB possition figured out. The Jets did have a tendency to make bad personelle choices that mostly had the offense losing out so they could stack the defense. I don't know how much of that was Rex though. Still ominous for the Bills.

 

[BlueTalon]

Well, Greg Roman is going with him.

I wouldn't count that as a positive. The Digits never figured out how to get plays called efficiently under Roman.

 

[pehawk]

Well, Greg Roman is going with him.

I wouldn't count that as a positive. The Digits never figured out how to get plays called efficiently under Roman.

Yeah, I think that has more to do with the 49ers QB.

 

[BlueTalon]

Well, Greg Roman is going with him.

I wouldn't count that as a positive. The Digits never figured out how to get plays called efficiently under Roman.

Yeah, I think that has more to do with the 49ers QB.

Perhaps, but if you were the OC with less-than-brilliant QB, would it take you four years to figure out how to get plays called in a timely manner?

 

[pehawk]

Well, Greg Roman is going with him.

I wouldn't count that as a positive. The Digits never figured out how to get plays called efficiently under Roman.

Yeah, I think that has more to do with the 49ers QB.

Perhaps, but if you were the OC with less-than-brilliant QB, would it take you four years to figure out how to get plays called in a timely manner?

Mike McCarthy once coordinated the 2nd worst offense in history, IIRC. Sometimes its the players on the field.

 

[Sarlacc83]

Well, Greg Roman is going with him.

I wouldn't count that as a positive. The Digits never figured out how to get plays called efficiently under Roman.

Yeah, I think that has more to do with the 49ers QB.

I think this is true.


I also think there is an outside chance Kaepernick gets traded to Buffalo for relatively cheap now that Harbaugh is gone and the Niners may want to outright cut Kaep after this year.

 

[hawkfan68]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12149930/buffalo-bills-hire-rex-ryan-next-head-coach

So he goes from one AFC East team with a good defense but no QB to another AFC East team with a good defense but no QB.

This was exactly my thought when I heard this on the radio this morning. EJ Manuel is slightly better but not by much to Geno Smith. Plus he's getting Greg Roman instead of Marc Trestman as OC. They mentioned on the radio that Ryan wasn't too interested in the Atlanta gig because he is still stewing that they had picked Mike Smith over him a few years ago.

 

[BlueTalon]

The Digits never figured out how to get plays called efficiently under Roman.

Yeah, I think that has more to do with the 49ers QB.

Perhaps, but if you were the OC with less-than-brilliant QB, would it take you four years to figure out how to get plays called in a timely manner?

Mike McCarthy once coordinated the 2nd worst offense in history, IIRC. Sometimes its the players on the field.

You avoided my question.

Under Roman's system, it was reported that he called in two complete plays every time. Something about that process was exceptionally cumbersome, and it never got streamlined. The Digits often had to call timeouts just because of that, or got delay of game penalties.

Plus, there was a lack of urgency on the field. In the Tip game, the Digits wasted most of the last 2 minutes prior to the tip by staying inbounds, tying shoelaces, and sauntering.

Four years of that.

 

[pehawk]

You avoided my question.

One of the primary objectives of their offense is to milk the clock and protect their defensive starters. Their goal was to get the clock down to "1" as much as possible. Its their gimmick. That takes a very smart and cerebral QB to run that. And that worked for 3 years, for the most part; 3 NFCCG and 1 SB appearance.

 

[BlueTalon]

You avoided my question.

One of the primary objectives of their offense is to milk the clock and protect their defensive starters. Their goal was to get the clock down to "1" as much as possible. Its their gimmick. That takes a very smart and cerebral QB to run that. And that worked for 3 years, for the most part; 3 NFCCG and 1 SB appearance.

I think you're reaching here, to be honest. Their success wasn't due to running the play clock down to 1, their success was in spite of their inefficient play calling.

 

[pehawk]

You avoided my question.

One of the primary objectives of their offense is to milk the clock and protect their defensive starters. Their goal was to get the clock down to "1" as much as possible. Its their gimmick. That takes a very smart and cerebral QB to run that. And that worked for 3 years, for the most part; 3 NFCCG and 1 SB appearance.

I think you're reaching here, to be honest. Their success wasn't due to running the play clock down to 1, their success was in spite of their inefficient play calling.

Hmm, I disagree. The 49ers played their starters on defense more than anyone for a reason; they have no depth behind those starting 11. They protected that, a lot, IMO. Shorten the game and keep their defense fresh.

Also, I just flatly disagree with any assertion Roman held Kap back, or it was more about Kap's ability. Kap flourished only because it was the easiest QB gig in the NFL. As that diminished, Kap diminished. Kap just kind of sucks, period.

 

[jkitsune]

Well, Greg Roman is going with him.

I wouldn't count that as a positive. The Digits never figured out how to get plays called efficiently under Roman.

Greg Roman is 10x the whipping boy Bevell ever has been here. Niners fans will be delighted that he's finally leaving. Not sure that's a legitimate upgrade for the Bills.

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

Well, Greg Roman is going with him. I think that's the only reason the Bills are doing it, Rex WITH Roman should work and counter any incompetence Rex may show offensively. If they can retain Schwartz, that's one hell of a staff.

That Bills squad is FULL of talent. Even on offense its full of talent. EJ hasn't shown much, but he was the closest to Wilson intangible wise in that draft. I think Roman will get the most out of him.

The Bills job is a good job...that's such a stacked roster.

Agree, but until they find an NFL caliber QB they will be a .500 type team. EJ ain't it man. Trade for Glennon might be a good idea. He ain't Erin or Russ, but he's good enough to get you to 10-6 with the rest of that roster IMO.

 

[pehawk]

Well, Greg Roman is going with him. I think that's the only reason the Bills are doing it, Rex WITH Roman should work and counter any incompetence Rex may show offensively. If they can retain Schwartz, that's one hell of a staff.

That Bills squad is FULL of talent. Even on offense its full of talent. EJ hasn't shown much, but he was the closest to Wilson intangible wise in that draft. I think Roman will get the most out of him.

The Bills job is a good job...that's such a stacked roster.

Agree, but until they find an NFL caliber QB they will be a .500 type team. EJ ain't it man. Trade for Glennon might be a good idea. He ain't Erin or Russ, but he's good enough to get you to 10-6 with the rest of that roster IMO.

Roman's a perfect OC selection for Manuel. For whatever reason the Bills never let Manuel move around like Roman and Bevell did/do Kaep and Wilson. Imagine someone taking that from Wilson or Kaep from day one...that's what happened to EJ. Don't throw Manuel away, quite yet.