CamanoIslandJQ
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I'll start by saying, I'm bored for a few more days so my mind keeps coming up with all kinds of off the wall stuff. I have a feeling that my thoughts below may actually have a slight chance of going down come draft day with trades of current Seahawks players. IMO- The Seahawks frequently make a big splash “TRADE” prior to (or during) the draft. I see no reason that this draft will be any different. In my mind, the two highest possibilities to facilitate a trade involve trading Bruce Irvin and/or Kam Chancellor, or more likely than not, BOTH. I like them both, but their time is probably over.
Potential trade partners and their draft capital (per draftsite.com), Note: these teams are coached by former Seahawks defensive coaches that know the players very well and could use a pass rusher and/or enforcer type strong safety.
Oakland.............1/14, 2/44, 3/75, 4/115, 5/143, 5/154, 6/197, 7/232.
Jacksonville.......1/5, 2/38, 3/69, 4/104, 5/146, 6/184, 6/204, 7/224.
Atlanta...............1/17, 2/50, 3/81, 4/116, 6/208, 7/236.
----Irvin: On his lame duck season, Trade would require Irvin getting a new contract with his new team and the complications with same. Irvin has previously indicated a desire to go back to Atlanta to be closer to home. If the Seahawks had hopes for a 3-rd round comp pick next year, why not get it a year earlier and move on?
IMO-his value would return 3/75 from Oakland or 3/69 from Jacksonville or 3/81 from Atlanta and I feel those to be fair, conservative and realistic returns. I believe Atlanta is the most probable, but Oakland has our old LB coach, lots of picks and cap $, so I wouldn't count them out.
----Chancellor: I don't think Kam is going to be around next year. The fact that trade speculation hasn't started much yet fits the annual JS/PC splash with nobody having a clue - prior to their annual big deal(s).
IMO-Atlanta won't be able to go after both Kam and Irvin, mostly due to their limited draft capital, even though they could probably use both. The primary trade partner is probably Jacksonville, I think JS could rob them for their 2/38 & 5/146. If Oakland wanted KAM, I'd expect JS to get back their 2/44 & 5/143, and I feel those to be fair, conservative and realistic returns. The 5th round pick is something JS would probably demand because the Seahawks have a big gap between their 4/125 and 5/172 picks (that the 5-th rounder would fit in the middle of) & he doesn't like to sit idle that long. I suppose the trade could go down without those 5-th's if necessary to make the deal sweater for their side.
Summary: If the Seahawks trade Bruce and/or Kam what do they get and who can they draft with those additional picks? Having 6 PICKS IN THE TOP 98 - would allow for a lot of manipulation in the draft and could realistically provide for a couple of additional starters or at least key backups.
Additional Seahawks Picks:
2/38 & 5/146 --or-- 2/44 & 5/143 …........For Kam.
3/69 --or-- 3/75, --or-- if above occurs then most likely 3/81 ….........For Bruce.
Potential replacements in the draft for Kam: (xx) = current rank @ cbssports.com
SS-Jeremy Cash(54), SS-Miles Killebrew(80) are IMO the only really viable possibilities, I like them both as good fits.
Potential replacements for Irvin: OLB-Kyler Fackrell(70), OLB-Deion Jones(84), OLB-Jordan Jenkins(94), OLB-Kameli Correa(107), AND/OR: DE-Carl Nassib(68), DE-Bronson Kaufusi(79), DE-Shawn Oakman(92).
Even if it takes both a DE/edge guy and an OLB to replace Bruce, any additional pass rushers are a HUGE positive-IMO. (remember when Avril went down in the super bowl?). I think an early 2-nd and a 5-th is pretty darn good compensation for Kam and for Bruce a 3-rd is not too bad considering that's the maximum he would fetch as a comp pick next year & his cap reduction helps. A change of teams would probably be good for both Kam & Bruce.
Am I way, way, way off base here (as I pop another beer) or what?
Potential trade partners and their draft capital (per draftsite.com), Note: these teams are coached by former Seahawks defensive coaches that know the players very well and could use a pass rusher and/or enforcer type strong safety.
Oakland.............1/14, 2/44, 3/75, 4/115, 5/143, 5/154, 6/197, 7/232.
Jacksonville.......1/5, 2/38, 3/69, 4/104, 5/146, 6/184, 6/204, 7/224.
Atlanta...............1/17, 2/50, 3/81, 4/116, 6/208, 7/236.
----Irvin: On his lame duck season, Trade would require Irvin getting a new contract with his new team and the complications with same. Irvin has previously indicated a desire to go back to Atlanta to be closer to home. If the Seahawks had hopes for a 3-rd round comp pick next year, why not get it a year earlier and move on?
IMO-his value would return 3/75 from Oakland or 3/69 from Jacksonville or 3/81 from Atlanta and I feel those to be fair, conservative and realistic returns. I believe Atlanta is the most probable, but Oakland has our old LB coach, lots of picks and cap $, so I wouldn't count them out.
----Chancellor: I don't think Kam is going to be around next year. The fact that trade speculation hasn't started much yet fits the annual JS/PC splash with nobody having a clue - prior to their annual big deal(s).
IMO-Atlanta won't be able to go after both Kam and Irvin, mostly due to their limited draft capital, even though they could probably use both. The primary trade partner is probably Jacksonville, I think JS could rob them for their 2/38 & 5/146. If Oakland wanted KAM, I'd expect JS to get back their 2/44 & 5/143, and I feel those to be fair, conservative and realistic returns. The 5th round pick is something JS would probably demand because the Seahawks have a big gap between their 4/125 and 5/172 picks (that the 5-th rounder would fit in the middle of) & he doesn't like to sit idle that long. I suppose the trade could go down without those 5-th's if necessary to make the deal sweater for their side.
Summary: If the Seahawks trade Bruce and/or Kam what do they get and who can they draft with those additional picks? Having 6 PICKS IN THE TOP 98 - would allow for a lot of manipulation in the draft and could realistically provide for a couple of additional starters or at least key backups.
Additional Seahawks Picks:
2/38 & 5/146 --or-- 2/44 & 5/143 …........For Kam.
3/69 --or-- 3/75, --or-- if above occurs then most likely 3/81 ….........For Bruce.
Potential replacements in the draft for Kam: (xx) = current rank @ cbssports.com
SS-Jeremy Cash(54), SS-Miles Killebrew(80) are IMO the only really viable possibilities, I like them both as good fits.
Potential replacements for Irvin: OLB-Kyler Fackrell(70), OLB-Deion Jones(84), OLB-Jordan Jenkins(94), OLB-Kameli Correa(107), AND/OR: DE-Carl Nassib(68), DE-Bronson Kaufusi(79), DE-Shawn Oakman(92).
Even if it takes both a DE/edge guy and an OLB to replace Bruce, any additional pass rushers are a HUGE positive-IMO. (remember when Avril went down in the super bowl?). I think an early 2-nd and a 5-th is pretty darn good compensation for Kam and for Bruce a 3-rd is not too bad considering that's the maximum he would fetch as a comp pick next year & his cap reduction helps. A change of teams would probably be good for both Kam & Bruce.
Am I way, way, way off base here (as I pop another beer) or what?
