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Chapow":8vf8lbzm said:
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I think Belichick will use this as motivation to get his players even more motivated for this game to prove a point. This will light a fire under them...

What?

They got caught cheating. Most people find that sort of thing more embarrassing than motivating.

Nobody likes getting caught knowingly doing something wrong/cheating.

You're not putting yourself into the minds of athletes and coaches and how they use things to motivate themselves.

It's called "bulletin board material".

Coaches and players use anything they can as motivation.
 

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How about it hurts them? Brady hasn't thrown a properly inflated ball for years and will have fumbling problems and issues with the ball slipping out.

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What is the legal limit on the lower end of deflation that you can set the PSI at on a football? And how far under the lowest legal limit were the Pats' footballs?

12.5 to 13.5 psi apparently Pats balls about 10.5

Here's the thing. Brady is one of the greatest QB's to ever play the game and one of the most accurate. He doesn't need perfect accuracy to throw down field since he rarely ever throws down field bombs, heck he rarely throws it past 25 yards, so the PSI doesn't have much effect on the little dinks and dunks Brady throws.

The short passes it would be a benefit to have a softer ball coming on a rope than hard easy to deflect.



No one is stopping Gronk unless the Seahawks go for a dirty cheap shot.


Yeah its presently the Seahawks accused of being dirty and cheap deflect much?

If the Seahawks can barely beat the Packers at home where the Packers really blew the game by their own mistakes who controlled the game for 95% of the game and the Pats put up 34 on the Ravens and 40+ on the Colts the edge goes to the Pats.

Its ok i hope the whole team judges the Seahawks by those first 3 quarters.
 

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Pats fan1":vmrvsgfy said:
Chapow":vmrvsgfy said:
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I think Belichick will use this as motivation to get his players even more motivated for this game to prove a point. This will light a fire under them...

What?

They got caught cheating. Most people find that sort of thing more embarrassing than motivating.

Nobody likes getting caught knowingly doing something wrong/cheating.

You're not putting yourself into the minds of athletes and coaches and how they use things to motivate themselves.

It's called "bulletin board material".

Coaches and players use anything they can as motivation.

Off topic, but I don't think you know about the NFC West. You aren't putting up 28 points. Seattle dominated the best division in football. You guys are going to get your shit kicked in. You guys don't have a chance at all. Look forward to being 3-8 in the super bowl.
 

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RationalNiner":2tu0pjaq said:
Pats fan1":2tu0pjaq said:
Chapow":2tu0pjaq said:
Pats fan1":2tu0pjaq said:
I think Belichick will use this as motivation to get his players even more motivated for this game to prove a point. This will light a fire under them...

What?

They got caught cheating. Most people find that sort of thing more embarrassing than motivating.

Nobody likes getting caught knowingly doing something wrong/cheating.

You're not putting yourself into the minds of athletes and coaches and how they use things to motivate themselves.

It's called "bulletin board material".

Coaches and players use anything they can as motivation.

Off topic, but I don't think you know about the NFC West. You aren't putting up 28 points. Seattle dominated the best division in football. You guys are going to get your shit kicked in. You guys don't have a chance at all. Look forward to being 3-8 in the super bowl.

Seahawks played in a weak NFC West.

Rams? No QB and weak offense.
Cardinals? No QB and weak offense. <<<<<Seahawks never once played a Carson Palmer Cardinal team in 2014.
49ers? Internal chaos inside the organization between coach, front office, players. Coach fired for not being some liberal who believes "it takes a village". I guess he doesn't support gay marriage for the San Francisco/Nanci Pelosi fan base.

The Seahawks played in a division in 2014 with no real dominant offense with no real dominant QB.

The Pats would have beat all NFC West teams. They beat the Bengals, Broncos, Colts, Lions, Bears, Chargers who all have decent to super star elite QB's with explosive top offenses with top elite WR's that are far better than any WR's on the Seahawks. Yeah, the Seahawks really have better WR's and TE's than the Bengals (AJ Green) and Broncos (Julius and Demaryius Thomas) Colts (TY Hilton, Moncrief) Lions (Calvin Johnson) Bears (Brandon Marshall) Chargers (Antonio Gates)

Your excuse? "Well the Seahawks have the greatest defense in the HISTORY of the NFL." Well they looked downright mediocre and below average against the Packers AT home.

Packers controlled the Seahawks for over 95% of the game. Seahawks couldn't get pressure on Rodgers. Packers ran a conservative offensive game plan. Kicked field goals inside their 10. Packers lost the game due to a trick play, hail mary 2 point conversion and on side kick because that Packers' player jumped in front of Jordy Nelson all in the last remaining minutes of the game. If Jordy Nelson caught that ball game over. Packers in the SB.

And you know the stupid thing? Aaron Rodgers and the Packers didn't once challenge and test an injured Sherman who only had use of one arm. Ridiculous. The Pats would have put Gronk over there right on Sherman and tested him.

Seahawks = Run a 4-3 D. Their D-line are undersized speed rushers like Dumervil on the Ravens. Patriots shut them down. Seahawks don't blitz. The Seahawks do NOT have the 2007 Giants super star elite D-Line of Michael Strahan and Justin Tuck. Neither do the Seahawks have the Giants' 6'4" to 6'5" tall WR's (Plaxico Burress) playing against and jumping up over 5'9" Ellis Hobbs.

Seahawks also have two key defensive players most likely not 100% for the SB. I hope they are but those injuries take more than 2 weeks to be 100%. If this was the regular season I wouldn't be surprised if they would be out for 4 to 6 weeks.

This super bowl is NOT the 2007 or 2011 Super Bowls. The Seahawks are not the Giants. And this Pats team is different.
 

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Pats fan1":z95cy10l said:
Seahawks played in a weak NFC West.

Rams? No QB and weak offense.
Cardinals? No QB and weak offense. <<<<<Seahawks never once played a Carson Palmer Cardinal team in 2014.
49ers? Internal chaos inside the organization between coach, front office, players. Coach fired for not being some liberal who believes "it takes a village". I guess he doesn't support gay marriage for the San Francisco/Nanci Pelosi fan base.

The Seahawks played in a division in 2014 with no real dominant offense with no real dominant QB.

The Pats would have beat all NFC West teams. They beat the Bengals, Broncos, Colts, Lions, Bears, Chargers who all have decent to super star elite QB's with explosive top offenses with top elite WR's that are far better than any WR's on the Seahawks. Yeah, the Seahawks really have better WR's and TE's than the Bengals (AJ Green) and Broncos (Julius and Demaryius Thomas) Colts (TY Hilton, Moncrief) Lions (Calvin Johnson) Bears (Brandon Marshall) Chargers (Antonio Gates)

Your excuse? "Well the Seahawks have the greatest defense in the HISTORY of the NFL." Well they looked downright mediocre and below average against the Packers AT home.

Packers controlled the Seahawks for over 95% of the game. Seahawks couldn't get pressure on Rodgers. Packers ran a conservative offensive game plan. Kicked field goals inside their 10. Packers lost the game due to a trick play, hail mary 2 point conversion and on side kick because that Packers' player jumped in front of Jordy Nelson all in the last remaining minutes of the game. If Jordy Nelson caught that ball game over. Packers in the SB.

And you know the stupid thing? Aaron Rodgers and the Packers didn't once challenge and test an injured Sherman who only had use of one arm. Ridiculous. The Pats would have put Gronk over there right on Sherman and tested him.

Seahawks = Run a 4-3 D. Their D-line are undersized speed rushers like Dumervil on the Ravens. Patriots shut them down. Seahawks don't blitz. The Seahawks do NOT have the 2007 Giants super star elite D-Line of Michael Strahan and Justin Tuck. Neither do the Seahawks have the Giants' 6'4" to 6'5" tall WR's (Plaxico Burress) playing against and jumping up over 5'9" Ellis Hobbs.

Seahawks also have two key defensive players most likely not 100% for the SB. I hope they are but those injuries take more than 2 weeks to be 100%. If this was the regular season I wouldn't be surprised if they would be out for 4 to 6 weeks.

This super bowl is NOT the 2007 or 2011 Super Bowls. The Seahawks are not the Giants. And this Pats team is different.

Come back here and say that after you guys get your shit kicked in. You haven't got a clue.
 

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Who the hell do the pats even have outside of Revis, Gronk, and Brady? Wilfork is old. The rest of their players are mediocre or below average. The only reason they are where they are is because of Brady and Belichick's scheming. What happened in 2012 when you faced the Seahawks? You lost. Played us in 2012 and you were getting the shit kicked out of you at home until justin smith went out and you guys were able to catch up for a little. The Seahawks are better than they were in 2012, and minor upgrades to your defense isn't gonna put you over the hump against them.
 

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Pats fan1":14swmq9b said:
Seahawks played in a weak NFC West.

Rams? No QB and weak offense.
Cardinals? No QB and weak offense. <<<<<Seahawks never once played a Carson Palmer Cardinal team in 2014.
49ers? Internal chaos inside the organization between coach, front office, players. Coach fired for not being some liberal who believes "it takes a village". I guess he doesn't support gay marriage for the San Francisco/Nanci Pelosi fan base.

The Seahawks played in a division in 2014 with no real dominant offense with no real dominant QB.

The Pats would have beat all NFC West teams. They beat the Bengals, Broncos, Colts, Lions, Bears, Chargers who all have decent to super star elite QB's with explosive top offenses with top elite WR's that are far better than any WR's on the Seahawks. Yeah, the Seahawks really have better WR's and TE's than the Bengals (AJ Green) and Broncos (Julius and Demaryius Thomas) Colts (TY Hilton, Moncrief) Lions (Calvin Johnson) Bears (Brandon Marshall) Chargers (Antonio Gates)

Your excuse? "Well the Seahawks have the greatest defense in the HISTORY of the NFL." Well they looked downright mediocre and below average against the Packers AT home.

Packers controlled the Seahawks for over 95% of the game. Seahawks couldn't get pressure on Rodgers. Packers ran a conservative offensive game plan. Kicked field goals inside their 10. Packers lost the game due to a trick play, hail mary 2 point conversion and on side kick because that Packers' player jumped in front of Jordy Nelson all in the last remaining minutes of the game. If Jordy Nelson caught that ball game over. Packers in the SB.

And you know the stupid thing? Aaron Rodgers and the Packers didn't once challenge and test an injured Sherman who only had use of one arm. Ridiculous. The Pats would have put Gronk over there right on Sherman and tested him.

Seahawks = Run a 4-3 D. Their D-line are undersized speed rushers like Dumervil on the Ravens. Patriots shut them down. Seahawks don't blitz. The Seahawks do NOT have the 2007 Giants super star elite D-Line of Michael Strahan and Justin Tuck. Neither do the Seahawks have the Giants' 6'4" to 6'5" tall WR's (Plaxico Burress) playing against and jumping up over 5'9" Ellis Hobbs.

Seahawks also have two key defensive players most likely not 100% for the SB. I hope they are but those injuries take more than 2 weeks to be 100%. If this was the regular season I wouldn't be surprised if they would be out for 4 to 6 weeks.

This super bowl is NOT the 2007 or 2011 Super Bowls. The Seahawks are not the Giants. And this Pats team is different.
Smoke and mirrors in a thread about how the Patriots are liars and cheats. While it is a virtual certainty that the Seahawks will win the SB whether the Patriots cheat or not, it in no way changes the fact that your Patriots organization has no integrity and is willing to cheat in order to win. That's just plain sorry.

What's worse are the mental gymnastics being done by the Patriots fans around here to rationalize the entire thing.
 

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Pats fan1":3pevomxl said:
Your excuse? "Well the Seahawks have the greatest defense in the HISTORY of the NFL." Well they looked downright mediocre and below average against the Packers AT home.

The Seahawks defense looked downright mediocre and below average against the Packers? Hmm.

Aaron Rodgers season averages compared to how he did that game:

Completion percentage: 65.6%. Against the Seahawks: 55.9%.
Yards per game average: 274. Against the Seahawks: 178.
Touchdown-to-interception ratio: 7.6:1. Against the Seahawks: 0.5.
Quarterback rating: 112.2. Against the Seahawks: 55.8.

Seahawks had more first downs, more rushing yards, more passing yards, more total yards, more total plays, and better average gain per play (both passing and rushing), than the Packers, and held them to six points from 9:37 in the second quarter through the end of the game. This was all done giving them the ball inside or near the red zone. Repeatedly. And with their average starting position on the Seahawks' side of midfield. And they had a +3 turnover margin. All that, and the Seahawks still held them to over eight points under their season average.

I'd hate to see what you think is a great looking defense.
 

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Watching this Pats fan implode after charging in here pretending to be embarrassed by his team is more entertaining than the scandal itself.

My favorite part so far is that everything is the Colt's fault - they didn't even game plan, they spent all week trying to be detectives against the Pats and are in cahoots with the Ravens in this espionage. This never woulda happened if it was the Chargers. Those bad Colts, the "anti-pats" because they have morals and stuff. Hahahaa. This is great.

----

This is not quite as funny as ths Pats fan, but still amusing -

Bill Belichick vows “swift justice” for whoever failed to deflate 12th football

New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick said today that he is just as upset and angry as everyone else is over the latest news about his team, and will make sure there is “swift justice for those responsible.”

“I was very angry to hear that 11 of our 12 footballs in the AFC Championship Game were under-inflated,” said the coach, spitting out his words in an angry growl at a press conference today. “I gave explicit instructions that all of our footballs were to be deflated by exactly two pounds. I will find who failed to deflate the twelfth ball and they will be fired. I guarantee you that.”


http://www.sportspickle.com/2015/01/bil ... h-football
 

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Don't even feel like quoting but it is funny saying Packers blew it on their mistakes when they were in the position they were solely because of mistakes by Seattle that they haven't made all season long.

Secondly - you need to really go back and look at what Seattle Defense did in that game. If you consider where GB started in the first half then the number of points allowed is really amazing

The game will be played on the field -- I am just laughing about your original post saying how you can't support a team that cheats and then you simply convince yourself that somehow they haven't been cheating.... amazing ability to lie to yourself.

Then you further these internal lies with "Baltimore told Indy about it" -- which to any somewhat impartial person means they CHEATED when they played Baltimore as well, but to you means that they didn't CHEAT.
 

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Pats fan1":11knx21o said:
Seahawks played in a weak NFC West.

Rams? No QB and weak offense.
Cardinals? No QB and weak offense. <<<<<Seahawks never once played a Carson Palmer Cardinal team in 2014.
49ers? Internal chaos inside the organization between coach, front office, players. Coach fired for not being some liberal who believes "it takes a village". I guess he doesn't support gay marriage for the San Francisco/Nanci Pelosi fan base.
First, keep your politics elsewhere.
Second, yeah, your division is full of quarterbacks just kicking ass. Geno, Tannehill, and whatever Buffalo cares to wheel out onto the field?

Get out of here with that shit.
 

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Seahawk Sailor":2n8hswqh said:
Pats fan1":2n8hswqh said:
Your excuse? "Well the Seahawks have the greatest defense in the HISTORY of the NFL." Well they looked downright mediocre and below average against the Packers AT home.

The Seahawks defense looked downright mediocre and below average against the Packers? Hmm.

Aaron Rodgers season averages compared to how he did that game:

Completion percentage: 65.6%. Against the Seahawks: 55.9%.
Yards per game average: 274. Against the Seahawks: 178.
Touchdown-to-interception ratio: 7.6:1. Against the Seahawks: 0.5.
Quarterback rating: 112.2. Against the Seahawks: 55.8.

Seahawks had more first downs, more rushing yards, more passing yards, more total yards, more total plays, and better average gain per play (both passing and rushing), than the Packers, and held them to six points from 9:37 in the second quarter through the end of the game. This was all done giving them the ball inside or near the red zone. Repeatedly. And with their average starting position on the Seahawks' side of midfield. And they had a +3 turnover margin. All that, and the Seahawks still held them to over eight points under their season average.

I'd hate to see what you think is a great looking defense.

The Patriots held the Packers to 3 points in the entire second half at Lambeau Field where the Packers play better on grass than turf.
 

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Pats fan1":12ft5r5w said:
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Pats fan1":12ft5r5w said:
Your excuse? "Well the Seahawks have the greatest defense in the HISTORY of the NFL." Well they looked downright mediocre and below average against the Packers AT home.

The Seahawks defense looked downright mediocre and below average against the Packers? Hmm.

Aaron Rodgers season averages compared to how he did that game:

Completion percentage: 65.6%. Against the Seahawks: 55.9%.
Yards per game average: 274. Against the Seahawks: 178.
Touchdown-to-interception ratio: 7.6:1. Against the Seahawks: 0.5.
Quarterback rating: 112.2. Against the Seahawks: 55.8.

Seahawks had more first downs, more rushing yards, more passing yards, more total yards, more total plays, and better average gain per play (both passing and rushing), than the Packers, and held them to six points from 9:37 in the second quarter through the end of the game. This was all done giving them the ball inside or near the red zone. Repeatedly. And with their average starting position on the Seahawks' side of midfield. And they had a +3 turnover margin. All that, and the Seahawks still held them to over eight points under their season average.

I'd hate to see what you think is a great looking defense.

The Patriots held the Packers to 3 points in the entire second half at Lambeau Field where the Packers play better on grass than turf.

How did they do against the Ravens?
 

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mikeak":28kh6hh4 said:
Don't even feel like quoting but it is funny saying Packers blew it on their mistakes when they were in the position they were solely because of mistakes by Seattle that they haven't made all season long.

Secondly - you need to really go back and look at what Seattle Defense did in that game. If you consider where GB started in the first half then the number of points allowed is really amazing

The game will be played on the field -- I am just laughing about your original post saying how you can't support a team that cheats and then you simply convince yourself that somehow they haven't been cheating.... amazing ability to lie to yourself.

Then you further these internal lies with "Baltimore told Indy about it" -- which to any somewhat impartial person means they CHEATED when they played Baltimore as well, but to you means that they didn't CHEAT.

Packers kicked field goals in their own 10 and 5 red zone and didn't go for it on 4th down. They gave the game away.

And all season the Packers didn't play well on turf. But they dominated 95% of the game on turf in Seattle.

Pats held the Packers to 3 points in the entire 2nd half at Lambeau Field where the Packers dominate on grass.

Now take the Hawks out of Seattle and take away the 12th man in a neutral site then the advantage edges towards the Pats.

Sherman and Thomas are injured and might not be 100% for the game.

Pats are just more balanced

"Waaa waaaa cheat cheat cheat sniffle sniffle, cheat cheat, you cheat, Cheatriots, Belicheat, cheat cheat! waaa waaa sniffle woodga pudga."
 

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Pats fan1":3t4qbvlr said:
mikeak":3t4qbvlr said:
Don't even feel like quoting but it is funny saying Packers blew it on their mistakes when they were in the position they were solely because of mistakes by Seattle that they haven't made all season long.

Secondly - you need to really go back and look at what Seattle Defense did in that game. If you consider where GB started in the first half then the number of points allowed is really amazing

The game will be played on the field -- I am just laughing about your original post saying how you can't support a team that cheats and then you simply convince yourself that somehow they haven't been cheating.... amazing ability to lie to yourself.

Then you further these internal lies with "Baltimore told Indy about it" -- which to any somewhat impartial person means they CHEATED when they played Baltimore as well, but to you means that they didn't CHEAT.

Packers kicked field goals in their own 10 and 5 red zone and didn't go for it on 4th down. They gave the game away.

And all season the Packers didn't play well on turf. But they dominated 95% of the game on turf in Seattle.

Pats held the Packers to 3 points in the entire 2nd half at Lambeau Field where the Packers dominate on grass.

Now take the Hawks out of Seattle and take away the 12th man in a neutral site then the advantage edges towards the Pats.

Sherman and Thomas are injured and might not be 100% for the game.

Pats are just more balanced

"Waaa waaaa cheat cheat cheat sniffle sniffle, cheat cheat, you cheat, Cheatriots, Belicheat, cheat cheat! waaa waaa sniffle woodga pudga.

so lets say they went for it? Are you saying it is a guarantee they would get touchdowns? I never get this logic. We just stuffed them 3 times in a row. They likely got more points kicking fg's than by going for it.
 

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bigtrain21":2qlettm6 said:
Pats fan1":2qlettm6 said:
Seahawk Sailor":2qlettm6 said:
Pats fan1":2qlettm6 said:
Your excuse? "Well the Seahawks have the greatest defense in the HISTORY of the NFL." Well they looked downright mediocre and below average against the Packers AT home.

The Seahawks defense looked downright mediocre and below average against the Packers? Hmm.

Aaron Rodgers season averages compared to how he did that game:

Completion percentage: 65.6%. Against the Seahawks: 55.9%.
Yards per game average: 274. Against the Seahawks: 178.
Touchdown-to-interception ratio: 7.6:1. Against the Seahawks: 0.5.
Quarterback rating: 112.2. Against the Seahawks: 55.8.

Seahawks had more first downs, more rushing yards, more passing yards, more total yards, more total plays, and better average gain per play (both passing and rushing), than the Packers, and held them to six points from 9:37 in the second quarter through the end of the game. This was all done giving them the ball inside or near the red zone. Repeatedly. And with their average starting position on the Seahawks' side of midfield. And they had a +3 turnover margin. All that, and the Seahawks still held them to over eight points under their season average.

I'd hate to see what you think is a great looking defense.

The Patriots held the Packers to 3 points in the entire second half at Lambeau Field where the Packers play better on grass than turf.

How did they do against the Ravens?

They put up 34 points and made the game winning INT against the Ravens, a team that has played them hard and beat them in the past and knows them well. The Ravens also have two down field threats in Torrey and Steve Smith and a QB who's a great QB who's a winner with a cannon for an arm.
 

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Pats fan1":31plbxq8 said:
The Patriots held the Packers to 3 points in the entire second half at Lambeau Field where the Packers play better on grass than turf.

That's a very impressive stat. I'd be proud of that too, and with good right to be. Doesn't have much to do with the fact that what you called a "domination" by the Packers was in reality a very stellar defensive game by the Seahawks. And it's even more of an argument that shows good defensive play beats good offensive play most of the time. And that's a paradigm most Patriots fans are struggling to argue against.
 

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Hi Hawks fans,

I am a visiting Ravens fan and love your brand of football, you guys play D. Much respect. Richard Sherman is actually my favorite NFL player right now.

Anyway, I did a little Photoshop to inspire you to beat those cheating bastards.

superbowl.jpg
 

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How about it hurts them? Brady hasn't thrown a properly inflated ball for years and will have fumbling problems and issues with the ball slipping out.

As Edelman said "the balls didn't feel any different than usual"

What I heard was 2lbs less which is about 15-20%........ that isn't a little bit AND the balls were re-tested in halftime and air was put back into them and then magically dissapeared only in those balls that NE had on their sideline.

A new report out says the illegal deflated balls were taken out of the game at half time and in the 2nd half the Pats' used their back up footballs that were not deflated. The Pats played better in the second half in colder rainier weather.

What is the legal limit on the lower end of deflation that you can set the PSI at on a football? And how far under the lowest legal limit were the Pats' footballs?

And this should have less effect indoors in a climate controlled environment. Indoors will benefit the Patriots' offense and up tempo no huddle system.

Here's the thing. Brady is one of the greatest QB's to ever play the game and one of the most accurate. He doesn't need perfect accuracy to throw down field since he rarely ever throws down field bombs, heck he rarely throws it past 25 yards, so the PSI doesn't have much effect on the little dinks and dunks Brady throws.

lol @ thinking Brady will be throwing up ducks if the ball isn't perfectly inflated to his liking. I doubt Brady will be launching 40 to 50 yard bombs down field and if he does into double coverage he's a moron or he finds an open WR who broke through the Seahawks' secondary.

I doubt the Pats' footballs were so under the legal limit that it's a difference for Brady and the WR's.

And if this does slow down the Pats' offense then this game is more equal and the Pats won't be putting up 34 or more points. They can still win this game by putting up 24 to 28 which they can do. No one is stopping Gronk unless the Seahawks go for a dirty cheap shot.

If the Seahawks can barely beat the Packers at home where the Packers really blew the game by their own mistakes who controlled the game for 95% of the game and the Pats put up 34 on the Ravens and 40+ on the Colts the edge goes to the Pats.

The Seahawks' D is overrated. They got no pressure on Rodgers for many parts of the game and the Packers played a conservative offensive game. Instead of going for it on 4th down inside the 10 they decided to kick field goals. Belichick won't be kicking field goals when the Pats are inside their 35.

And two key Seahawks's defensive players are injured. I don't think Sherman and Thomas will be 100%. I hope they are. I want everyone on both teams at 100%.

The Seahawks are not a blitzing team. They rush 4 guys consistently on every play, the Pats play up tempo and spread out those D's like they did against the Lions' D. The Seahawks do not have the front 7 on D as the Jets, Bills and Dolphins do.


Yeah, I don't know how we will be able to stop the Patriots :sarcasm_on: Our D gave up 16 points in the first half vs. GB and their average drive start point was on our half of the field. The last time we played, I seem to remember winning that game and you had Gronk, the murderer, And Welker back then. The thing that concerns me is we are on our third string DT so we aren't as strong up the middle. We just played one of the worst games of our year, but we still pulled it out. I'm guessing it will be a pro Seahawk crowd since everyone other than a Pats fan is sick of your cheating coach and team.
 

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Pats fan1":2w1ka72h said:
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Pats fan1":2w1ka72h said:
Your excuse? "Well the Seahawks have the greatest defense in the HISTORY of the NFL." Well they looked downright mediocre and below average against the Packers AT home.

The Seahawks defense looked downright mediocre and below average against the Packers? Hmm.

Aaron Rodgers season averages compared to how he did that game:

Completion percentage: 65.6%. Against the Seahawks: 55.9%.
Yards per game average: 274. Against the Seahawks: 178.
Touchdown-to-interception ratio: 7.6:1. Against the Seahawks: 0.5.
Quarterback rating: 112.2. Against the Seahawks: 55.8.

Seahawks had more first downs, more rushing yards, more passing yards, more total yards, more total plays, and better average gain per play (both passing and rushing), than the Packers, and held them to six points from 9:37 in the second quarter through the end of the game. This was all done giving them the ball inside or near the red zone. Repeatedly. And with their average starting position on the Seahawks' side of midfield. And they had a +3 turnover margin. All that, and the Seahawks still held them to over eight points under their season average.

I'd hate to see what you think is a great looking defense.

The Patriots held the Packers to 3 points in the entire second half at Lambeau Field where the Packers play better on grass than turf.

You're going to "brag" about a game where your team lost (to the team we just beat) and gave up almost 500 yards (we just held them to a hair over 300) including 368 to Rodgers (who we just held to 178)?

And our D looked mediocre and below average?

So what's that make your D since our D performed significantly better against the same team?
 
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