Threedee
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I think Toronto needs to ban Danny Green from attempting three pointers. Lowery really struggled. Perhaps ending the game looking like he had all night long will give him the push he needs.
Hawk-Lock":2n9s8qnq said:I thought Nick Nurse made a huge mistake taking a timeout when Toronto was on a 12-2 run late in the fourth quarter. I think after he took that timeout, GS went on a 9-0 run. Why take a timeout when GS was on the ropes? Don’t fix it if it ain’t broke.
Hawk-Lock":2678vmom said:I thought Nick Nurse made a huge mistake taking a timeout when Toronto was on a 12-2 run late in the fourth quarter. I think after he took that timeout, GS went on a 9-0 run. Why take a timeout when GS was on the ropes? Don’t fix it if it ain’t broke.
Hawk-Lock":3ijjyl87 said:Warriors couldn’t catch a break this series. Once Klay went down it was clear they just aren’t meant to win the championship. Congrats to the Raptors. They are probably one of the weaker championship teams, but I’m glad someone other than the Warriors finally won. I hope this is a start of a more unpredictable NBA, where it isn’t just LeBron James and the Warriors winning it all each season.
knownone":1a8emvwj said:The media and fans will likely blame injuries, but depth is ultimately what cost the Warriors the title. They were forced to rely on a short rotation throughout the playoffs and guys started to wear down. Their bench was abysmal. The Raptors have 7 guys who can create a shot. The Warriors have 2 without Durant.
Steph and Klay had their best shooting finals collectively, and they were still lucky to win 2 games. One historic quarter offensively and the Raptors choking were the only things preventing this from being a sweep.
Good question, but that's not really the point I was making. I'm saying that the lack of depth cost them the title. I'm not necessarily blaming them for it. My overall point is that we shouldn't diminish the Raptors victory because GSW suffered injuries when they were playing 4 players damn near 40 minutes/game for the entire playoffs. That's not sustainable for guys at or close to 30 years old. You can't hide 4 guys on defense to get them rest during a game, so they played hard minutes throughout the entire playoffs and it ultimately cost them.mrt144":fwl5f9fx said:knownone":fwl5f9fx said:The media and fans will likely blame injuries, but depth is ultimately what cost the Warriors the title. They were forced to rely on a short rotation throughout the playoffs and guys started to wear down. Their bench was abysmal. The Raptors have 7 guys who can create a shot. The Warriors have 2 without Durant.
Steph and Klay had their best shooting finals collectively, and they were still lucky to win 2 games. One historic quarter offensively and the Raptors choking were the only things preventing this from being a sweep.
How do you have depth when carrying a top 5 and top 25 player in addition to all the other players? I can't imagine a scenario where the Warriors roster could have depth to make a difference without Klay or Durant. Like the drop off from either to 'next best' on the roster would likely be similar for any given team across the NBA, not just a Warriors problem per se.
What's unique about this situation? We saw it in last years conference finals when Chris Paul got hurt. It's happened at least 5 times since 2015. The only thing unique is that it happened to 2 premier players, but we saw that in 2015 when both Kyrie and Kevin Love went down with injuries.Uncle Si":h5um1jrb said:That's sort of cherry picking a fairly unique situation though..
"Hey you lost because the best player in the league and probably the best shooter in the league, as well as your super sub, who happen to be on your team were inactive or unable to play much.. and you couldn't replace them."
They have bad depth because their top 6 are so strong. 3 of them just couldn't offer much. I just don't know what kind of depth you can expect with first 6.
All that said, I thought Toronto was terrific in the series. Very aggressive and poised.
Uncle Si":1p21zhdy said:That's sort of cherry picking a fairly unique situation though..
"Hey you lost because the best player in the league and probably the best shooter in the league, as well as your super sub, who happen to be on your team were inactive or unable to play much.. and you couldn't replace them."
They have bad depth because their top 6 are so strong. 3 of them just couldn't offer much. I just don't know what kind of depth you can expect with first 6.
All that said, I thought Toronto was terrific in the series. Very aggressive and poised.
I respect your opinion, but are you really calling Cousins a premier player? He's a good litmus test for 'did you actually watch the regular season' because he has great stats while being terrible on the court. In the regular season the Warriors had the number one offensive rating 115.6 without Cousins on the floor, their rating drops to 107.4 with him on the floor. He was virtually unplayable before his quad injury because he couldn't play defense.Uncle Si":2dgrgevz said:It happened to two premier players and another premier player they were hoping would be the best off the bench. Klay was far less than 100 percent in all but maybe one game.
If it's not unique when 3 premier players from an nba team are not able to contribute then you should know how almost impossible it is to compete.
Of ourse the Raptors have a deeper first 6 when you compare the salaries they are playing and the health of the group's. Play this with everything equal and I firmly believe GS wins.
Not a sweep, mind. Toronto was very good. But questioning why GS depth couldn't fill in for their stars over entire games doesn't seem fair.