Luck just signed through 2021, 6 years, $140 million

[WilsonMVP]

What really gets me though, is the incessant bashing of Luck without realizing that Wilson has been put in the 2nd best situation a QB could be in (to Tom Brady), probably in NFL history. The only combination of running game and defense that matches what Wilson started his career with might be the 85 Bears.

This post is very underwhelming to say the least.

Wilson has been aided by a stout defense and a power running game. The Seahawks defense gives Wilson more possessions and the power running game also helps with TOP and slows the pace of the game.

However, it doesn't change the fact that his musical chair OL that moonlights as crowd control at the Gorge has been garbage at pass protection since Wilson has started for the Seahawks.

I don't blame you for having a shortsighted position though. Every time the Seahawks play the Rams, Wilson typically has a below average game because your dominant D-line cuts through our OL like butter and our OC likes to have long developing plays against the best DL's in the league.

It doesn't change the fact that the difference between Wilson and Luck is elusiveness. Wilson can escape pressure and avoid a pass rush better than any other QB in the League. Luck is athletic, however, he has average dodging ability. I would say the Colts O-line and Seahawks O-line are comparable. Wilson makes it work, Luck gets a lacerated kidney and an abdominal tear.

Wilson is the only QB in NFL history to have at least 4000 passing yards, 30 TD's and 500 rushing yards in a single season.

Andrew Luck beats Wilson in three categories:

1. Buffalo Bill (Silence of the Lambs) voice impersonation
2. Neck Beard growth
3. Hype

Wilson is better than Luck hands down, you can't find any stats to refute it and there isn't one QB I would take over him in the NFL.

Speaking of him playing the Rams...You know whats funny? I just looked at it and Wilson has the same QB rating in his career against the Rams, 49ers and Cards....His QB rating is 93.7 against all 3 teams lmao. That is a weird and amazing stat IMO. Not sure what the odds of having the same exact QB rating is. At least according to profootball reference

 

[WilsonMVP]

I agree Hasselbeck, hence my laughter at how Indianapolis handled it even though they gave themselves an entire extra year to it get right. And they still did it the worst way they could have, all because of 2014 and the undeserved hype he's gotten from day one in this league. You understand in 14 less games he's thrown 22 more interceptions then Wilson and done nothing but worse in the playoffs? While Wilson is 7-3 in the playoffs and been to two Superbowls and winning one in the same span? While for the first time being allowed to put the team on his back last year like Luck and all he does is be the best quarterback in the NFL that includes Brady and Rodgers with offenses specifically built around them.

It'd be worse if not for that ridiculous injury plague Kansas City had in that 2014 playoff gave. That doesn't ever happen in a 100 years.

The funny thing is Wilson has 350 or so less passing attempts under Luck BUT he actually has more passing TDs (106 to 101) and only 900 or so less yards......

If you add in rushing yards and attempts into the equation for a grand total you get

Wilson....2146 touches for 16404 yards 118TD with 34 INT
Luck......2328 touches for 15939 yards 130 TD with 55 INT

I am also pretty sure Luck has more fumbles lost but im not sure where to find an accurate stat for that

 

[MizzouHawkGal]

I agree Hasselbeck, hence my laughter at how Indianapolis handled it even though they gave themselves an entire extra year to it get right. And they still did it the worst way they could have, all because of 2014 and the undeserved hype he's gotten from day one in this league. You understand in 14 less games he's thrown 22 more interceptions then Wilson and done nothing but worse in the playoffs? While Wilson is 7-3 in the playoffs and been to two Superbowls and winning one in the same span? While for the first time being allowed to put the team on his back last year like Luck and all he does is be the best quarterback in the NFL that includes Brady and Rodgers with offenses specifically built around them.

It'd be worse if not for that ridiculous injury plague Kansas City had in that 2014 playoff gave. That doesn't ever happen in a 100 years.

The funny thing is Wilson has 350 or so less passing attempts under Luck BUT he actually has more passing TDs (106 to 101) and only 900 or so less yards......

If you add in rushing yards and attempts into the equation for a grand total you get

Wilson....2146 touches for 16404 yards 118TD with 34 INT
Luck......2328 touches for 15939 yards 130 TD with 55 INT

I am also pretty sure Luck has more fumbles lost but im not sure where to find an accurate stat for that

I see you get the real story. Excellent.

 

[MizzouHawkGal]

What really gets me though, is the incessant bashing of Luck without realizing that Wilson has been put in the 2nd best situation a QB could be in (to Tom Brady), probably in NFL history. The only combination of running game and defense that matches what Wilson started his career with might be the 85 Bears.

This post is very underwhelming to say the least.

Wilson has been aided by a stout defense and a power running game. The Seahawks defense gives Wilson more possessions and the power running game also helps with TOP and slows the pace of the game.

However, it doesn't change the fact that his musical chair OL that moonlights as crowd control at the Gorge has been garbage at pass protection since Wilson has started for the Seahawks.

I don't blame you for having a shortsighted position though. Every time the Seahawks play the Rams, Wilson typically has a below average game because your dominant D-line cuts through our OL like butter and our OC likes to have long developing plays against the best DL's in the league.

It doesn't change the fact that the difference between Wilson and Luck is elusiveness. Wilson can escape pressure and avoid a pass rush better than any other QB in the League. Luck is athletic, however, he has average dodging ability. I would say the Colts O-line and Seahawks O-line are comparable. Wilson makes it work, Luck gets a lacerated kidney and an abdominal tear.

Wilson is the only QB in NFL history to have at least 4000 passing yards, 30 TD's and 500 rushing yards in a single season.

Andrew Luck beats Wilson in three categories:

1. Buffalo Bill (Silence of the Lambs) voice impersonation
2. Neck Beard growth
3. Hype

Wilson is better than Luck hands down, you can't find any stats to refute it and there isn't one QB I would take over him in the NFL.

Speaking of him playing the Rams...You know whats funny? I just looked at it and Wilson has the same QB rating in his career against the Rams, 49ers and Cards....His QB rating is 93.7 against all 3 teams lmao. That is a weird and amazing stat IMO. Not sure what the odds of having the same exact QB rating is. At least according to profootball reference

It tells you we need a decent Center, with that the Rams are our bitch, no 200 dollars, no pass go. It tells you Wilson can own the Rams if he gets average blocking against the up the middle pash rush.

 

[RolandDeschain]

The funny thing is Wilson has 350 or so less passing attempts under Luck BUT he actually has more passing TDs (106 to 101) and only 900 or so less yards......

If you add in rushing yards and attempts into the equation for a grand total you get

Wilson....2146 touches for 16404 yards 118TD with 34 INT
Luck......2328 touches for 15939 yards 130 TD with 55 INT

I am also pretty sure Luck has more fumbles lost but im not sure where to find an accurate stat for that

Now factor in all the GARBAGE teams with horrible defenses he has gotten to play even only within his own division compared to Wilson since their careers have started, and it's an astronomical difference to anyone who can set their biases aside.

 

[MizzouHawkGal]

The funny thing is Wilson has 350 or so less passing attempts under Luck BUT he actually has more passing TDs (106 to 101) and only 900 or so less yards......

If you add in rushing yards and attempts into the equation for a grand total you get

Wilson....2146 touches for 16404 yards 118TD with 34 INT
Luck......2328 touches for 15939 yards 130 TD with 55 INT

I am also pretty sure Luck has more fumbles lost but im not sure where to find an accurate stat for that

Now factor in all the GARBAGE teams with horrible defenses he has gotten to play even only within his own division compared to Wilson since their careers have started, and it's an astronomical difference to anyone who can set their biases aside.

That will never happen because don't you know that Wison is too short?

 

[RichNhansom]

The funny thing is Wilson has 350 or so less passing attempts under Luck BUT he actually has more passing TDs (106 to 101) and only 900 or so less yards......

If you add in rushing yards and attempts into the equation for a grand total you get

Wilson....2146 touches for 16404 yards 118TD with 34 INT
Luck......2328 touches for 15939 yards 130 TD with 55 INT

I am also pretty sure Luck has more fumbles lost but im not sure where to find an accurate stat for that

Now factor in all the GARBAGE teams with horrible defenses he has gotten to play even only within his own division compared to Wilson since their careers have started, and it's an astronomical difference to anyone who can set their biases aside.

Amazing isn't it?

I wonder what Wilson would have looked like if he had Harbaugh in college? He very well might have had the same Hype that Luck has had.

Remove the name and hype and Luck would have been severely chastised for his performance to date. A 40 year old Hasselbeck (a shell of his former self) came in with the same team and out performed Luck yet still all we hear is how bad Luck's supporting cast is. Factor in that every QB under Harbaugh has looked 10 times better than without him. Look what Harbaugh did for Kaepernick.

I looked up O-line stats and the only one I could find that breaks up pass protection from run blocking was football outsiders.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

2012 Seattle ranked 20th and Indy ranked 17th.
2013 Seattle ranked 32nd and Indy ranked 6th
2014 Seattle ranked 24th and Indy ranked 7th
2015 Seattle ranked 30th and Indy ranked 16th.

Luck started his career with Reggie Wayne, TY Hilton and Coby Fleener.

Just try and imagine what Wilson could have accomplished with those O-lines and targets? Then add in the division and defenses he would have had to play with.

It's amazing to me how stubborn some people are. Willfully burying their head in the sand to justify their beliefs. Oh well this will eventually work itself out.

For those who think we are being to rough on Luck, go to Indy's boards and you will see they have some questions themselves.

 

[Uncle Si]

And there is no owner in the league that would let Andrew Luck walk for nothing. There are what.. about 90-100 QB's in the league? How many of those are even serviceable? How many of those guys are good? We know how few are great/elite. Andrew Luck on his worst day is still a better QB than most.

So there was no question they had to pay Andrew Luck, just like there were no questions we had to pay Russell Wilson.

well no, that's not true at all.

They could've exercised a number of options with Luck. But the options would have been determining whether they believe Luck is worth the franchise dollars and will bring them glory despite chewing into a large portion of the team's cap. Or, they let him walk, trade him, somehow be done with him and try to rebuild a team by spreading that money on more players and take a chance on a young QB (very much the way the Seahawks were built before Wilson was paid).

There are many ways to win a championship. Balance is probably the most effective. This move makes it tougher for the Colts to be balanced, thus the conversation.

 

[WilsonMVP]

The funny thing is Wilson has 350 or so less passing attempts under Luck BUT he actually has more passing TDs (106 to 101) and only 900 or so less yards......

If you add in rushing yards and attempts into the equation for a grand total you get

Wilson....2146 touches for 16404 yards 118TD with 34 INT
Luck......2328 touches for 15939 yards 130 TD with 55 INT

I am also pretty sure Luck has more fumbles lost but im not sure where to find an accurate stat for that

Now factor in all the GARBAGE teams with horrible defenses he has gotten to play even only within his own division compared to Wilson since their careers have started, and it's an astronomical difference to anyone who can set their biases aside.

Amazing isn't it?

I wonder what Wilson would have looked like if he had Harbaugh in college? He very well might have had the same Hype that Luck has had.

Remove the name and hype and Luck would have been severely chastised for his performance to date. A 40 year old Hasselbeck (a shell of his former self) came in with the same team and out performed Luck yet still all we hear is how bad Luck's supporting cast is. Factor in that every QB under Harbaugh has looked 10 times better than without him. Look what Harbaugh did for Kaepernick.

I looked up O-line stats and the only one I could find that breaks up pass protection from run blocking was football outsiders.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

2012 Seattle ranked 20th and Indy ranked 17th.
2013 Seattle ranked 32nd and Indy ranked 6th
2014 Seattle ranked 24th and Indy ranked 7th
2015 Seattle ranked 30th and Indy ranked 16th.

Luck started his career with Reggie Wayne, TY Hilton and Coby Fleener.

Just try and imagine what Wilson could have accomplished with those O-lines and targets? Then add in the division and defenses he would have had to play with.

It's amazing to me how stubborn some people are. Willfully burying their head in the sand to justify their beliefs. Oh well this will eventually work itself out.

For those who think we are being to rough on Luck, go to Indy's boards and you will see they have some questions themselves.

Its not like Wilson was a slouch in college though....I think if he was 6 foot 2 he would of gotten hype haha

College Stats....Wilson had 400 or so more passing attempts though
Wilson 11720 yards 109TD/30INT 147.2 rating with 1423 rushing yards and 23 rushing TD
Luck 9430 yards 82TD/22INT 162.8 rating with 957 rushing yards and 7 rushing TD

If you look and compare their best seasons in college (both their last years in college)
Wilsons at Wisconsin- 72.8%, 3175 yards 33TD/4INT 191.8 rating with 338 rushing yds and 6 TD
Luck in 2011- 71.3% 3517 yards 37TD/10INT 169.7 rating with 150 rushing yards and 2 TD

Oh and in those stats above Wilson had 100 less attempts in the season and that was with playing 1 more game :irishdrinkers:

 

[WilsonMVP]

And there is no owner in the league that would let Andrew Luck walk for nothing. There are what.. about 90-100 QB's in the league? How many of those are even serviceable? How many of those guys are good? We know how few are great/elite. Andrew Luck on his worst day is still a better QB than most.

So there was no question they had to pay Andrew Luck, just like there were no questions we had to pay Russell Wilson.

well no, that's not true at all.

They could've exercised a number of options with Luck. But the options would have been determining whether they believe Luck is worth the franchise dollars and will bring them glory despite chewing into a large portion of the team's cap. Or, they let him walk, trade him, somehow be done with him and try to rebuild a team by spreading that money on more players and take a chance on a young QB (very much the way the Seahawks were built before Wilson was paid).

There are many ways to win a championship. Balance is probably the most effective. This move makes it tougher for the Colts to be balanced, thus the conversation.

I think the BEST decision would of been to Franchise Luck for this year and see how he bounces back. If he has a repeat performance of 2015 than this deal will be through the roof laughable

I will admit his 2014 year was pretty dang good. But last year and his 2 first years werent all that impressive other than gaining alot of yards. If he can be 2014 Luck he will be a top 5 QB in the NFL but was it an anomally like Culpepper in 04 or Stafford in 2011 will be the question.

 

[Hasselbeck]

The funny thing is Wilson has 350 or so less passing attempts under Luck BUT he actually has more passing TDs (106 to 101) and only 900 or so less yards......

If you add in rushing yards and attempts into the equation for a grand total you get

Wilson....2146 touches for 16404 yards 118TD with 34 INT
Luck......2328 touches for 15939 yards 130 TD with 55 INT

I am also pretty sure Luck has more fumbles lost but im not sure where to find an accurate stat for that

Now factor in all the GARBAGE teams with horrible defenses he has gotten to play even only within his own division compared to Wilson since their careers have started, and it's an astronomical difference to anyone who can set their biases aside.

Are you guys really playing this card right now? Of course you are. Here's why this is terrible cherry picking of stats.

- Andrew Luck missed 9 games last year. Russell Wilson hasn't missed a game in his career.

- The GARBAGE teams thing (PS :lol: :lol: :lol: ) .. you make it sound like Andrew Luck has played FBS schools his entire NFL career while Russell Wilson is out there battling the 85' Bears sixteen times a season. In the last two years alone, Russell Wilson has played against:

2015
- Jimmy Clausen (twice)
- Blaine Gabbert
- Colin Kaepernick
- Matt Cassel
- Johnny Manziel
- Case Keenum

Games against statistically poor defenses:
- Steelers (30th overall vs pass)
- 49ers 2x (27th overall vs pass, 29th overall vs run)
- Bengals (20th overall vs pass)
- Browns (22nd overall vs pass, 30th overall vs run)
- Rams 2x (23rd overall vs pass, 20th overall vs run)

2014
- Austin Davis
- Drew Stanton
- Colin Kaepernick (2x)
- Mark Sanchez
- Ryan Lindley
- Shaun Hill

Games against statistically poor defenses:
- Giants (29th overall defense, 18th vs pass, 30th vs run)
- Eagles (28th overall defense, 31st vs pass)
- Redskins (20th overall defense, 24th vs pass)
- Cardinals 2x (24th overall defense, 29th vs pass)
- Raiders (21st overall defense)

If you're going to indict Andrew Luck for playing soft opponents, then you better do the same for Russell Wilson.. because the last two years he has played 14 games against some of the worst QB's in football. But again, as per the usual.. what you knock Andrew Luck for you turn back around and praise Russell Wilson for.

Case in point.. Roland bringing this up:

Also, the KC playoff game would have been way worse for them if literally half of the Chiefs team didn't leave the game due to injury in the first 17 seconds of the first quarter. (I'm being a bit facetious, but the bad luck the Chiefs had in that game was miraculously fortunate for Indy.)

To edit this Roland style...

Also, the NFC Championship would have been way worse for them (Seattle) if Mike McCarthy literally didn't sh-- his pants on live television and the Packers didn't have Ha Ha Clinton Dix literally pass on a pick 6, give up a hail mary 2-point conversion, didn't take an onside kick off the face, didn't fall for a fake FG up 16, didn't settle for FG's on the one-yard line (twice)... almost like the bad luck the Packers had in that game was "miraculously fortunate for Seattle" .. eh?

If you want to knock Andrew Luck for throwing too many interceptions - yes, by all means, that is an accurate fault of Andrew Luck. He absolutely needs to rein in the turnovers. But this other crap? Its absolutely stupid. Football is, and always will be, a team game. Denying Russell Wilson hasn't had a vastly superior supporting cast to help him win games where he's not at his best is outright wrong.

Need further proof?

[tweet]https://twitter.com/FO_ScottKacsmar/status/748751434234015744[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/FO_ScottKacsmar/status/748757734888091652[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/FO_ScottKacsmar/status/748711780940120064[/tweet]

They're both excellent QB's, one of them just happens to be on a much better team than the other.

 

[IndyHawk]

He's a good quarterback right at Joe Flacco level maybe a bit better. Thing is he's not worth 25M under any circumstances. I'd say only Aaron Rodgers is worth that kind of money.

At least Flacco balled out and got a ring..what has Luck ever done in the playoffs or in the regular season other than a Matt Stafford (2011) like season in 2014. Seriously Stafford had 41 TD and 5000+ yards in 2011 is he the next great thing?

This is like the perfect comparison.I don't care for either QB's because while they can pass it's the TO's that are a big turnoff and I question both handling the pressure of the big games(playoffs)I think both have done the most of what you will see from them unless they learn to be game managers and I just don't see it happening

 

[rideaducati]

I'm curious as to how much it's worth. The really funny thing is that they already have no protection for him, and this contract will inhibit that even more.

Laughable...

I forgot about that Flacco contract. I still want to know what they were smoking when they drew that one up.

They didn't have the option of playing with the money by making his contract an extension. He played on the franchise tag and then got a new contract. With Luck's contract, the Colts had a paltry $16 million in year one to bring down the average cap hit.

 

[WilsonMVP]

The funny thing is Wilson has 350 or so less passing attempts under Luck BUT he actually has more passing TDs (106 to 101) and only 900 or so less yards......

If you add in rushing yards and attempts into the equation for a grand total you get

Wilson....2146 touches for 16404 yards 118TD with 34 INT
Luck......2328 touches for 15939 yards 130 TD with 55 INT

I am also pretty sure Luck has more fumbles lost but im not sure where to find an accurate stat for that

Now factor in all the GARBAGE teams with horrible defenses he has gotten to play even only within his own division compared to Wilson since their careers have started, and it's an astronomical difference to anyone who can set their biases aside.

Are you guys really playing this card right now? Of course you are. Here's why this is terrible cherry picking of stats.

- Andrew Luck missed 9 games last year. Russell Wilson hasn't missed a game in his career.

- The GARBAGE teams thing (PS :lol: :lol: :lol: ) .. you make it sound like Andrew Luck has played FBS schools his entire NFL career while Russell Wilson is out there battling the 85' Bears sixteen times a season. In the last two years alone, Russell Wilson has played against:

2015
- Jimmy Clausen (twice)
- Blaine Gabbert
- Colin Kaepernick
- Matt Cassel
- Johnny Manziel
- Case Keenum

Games against statistically poor defenses:
- Steelers (30th overall vs pass)
- 49ers 2x (27th overall vs pass, 29th overall vs run)
- Bengals (20th overall vs pass)
- Browns (22nd overall vs pass, 30th overall vs run)
- Rams 2x (23rd overall vs pass, 20th overall vs run)

2014
- Austin Davis
- Drew Stanton
- Colin Kaepernick (2x)
- Mark Sanchez
- Ryan Lindley
- Shaun Hill

Games against statistically poor defenses:
- Giants (29th overall defense, 18th vs pass, 30th vs run)
- Eagles (28th overall defense, 31st vs pass)
- Redskins (20th overall defense, 24th vs pass)
- Cardinals 2x (24th overall defense, 29th vs pass)
- Raiders (21st overall defense)

If you're going to indict Andrew Luck for playing soft opponents, then you better do the same for Russell Wilson.. because the last two years he has played 14 games against some of the worst QB's in football. But again, as per the usual.. what you knock Andrew Luck for you turn back around and praise Russell Wilson for.

Case in point.. Roland bringing this up:

Also, the KC playoff game would have been way worse for them if literally half of the Chiefs team didn't leave the game due to injury in the first 17 seconds of the first quarter. (I'm being a bit facetious, but the bad luck the Chiefs had in that game was miraculously fortunate for Indy.)

To edit this Roland style...

Also, the NFC Championship would have been way worse for them (Seattle) if Mike McCarthy literally didn't sh-- his pants on live television and the Packers didn't have Ha Ha Clinton Dix literally pass on a pick 6, give up a hail mary 2-point conversion, didn't take an onside kick off the face, didn't fall for a fake FG up 16, didn't settle for FG's on the one-yard line (twice)... almost like the bad luck the Packers had in that game was "miraculously fortunate for Seattle" .. eh?

If you want to knock Andrew Luck for throwing too many interceptions - yes, by all means, that is an accurate fault of Andrew Luck. He absolutely needs to rein in the turnovers. But this other crap? Its absolutely stupid. Football is, and always will be, a team game. Denying Russell Wilson hasn't had a vastly superior supporting cast to help him win games where he's not at his best is outright wrong.

Need further proof?

[tweet]https://twitter.com/FO_ScottKacsmar/status/748751434234015744[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/FO_ScottKacsmar/status/748757734888091652[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/FO_ScottKacsmar/status/748711780940120064[/tweet]

They're both excellent QB's, one of them just happens to be on a much better team than the other.

I like how in your games trailing by 9 points in the 4th quarter the 1 and 2 teams are both opponents of luck in the AFC South :lol:

You really want to argue that the AFC South isnt a horrible Division. I cant really think of a Division worse in the past 10 or so years can you? Manning and now Luck get to feast on that horrible division year in and year out

 

[WilsonMVP]

I'm curious as to how much it's worth. The really funny thing is that they already have no protection for him, and this contract will inhibit that even more.

Laughable...

I forgot about that Flacco contract. I still want to know what they were smoking when they drew that one up.

They didn't have the option of playing with the money by making his contract an extension. He played on the franchise tag and then got a new contract. With Luck's contract, the Colts had a paltry $16 million in year one to bring down the average cap hit.

Like I said about Flacco....I mean...he DID just WIN THE SUPERBOWL!!! and in the playoffs he went 11TD/0INT..i mean CMON...he actually was ELITE in the playoffs and won a title. WTF did Andrew Luck do to earn his massive contract?

 

[rideaducati]

Laughable...

I forgot about that Flacco contract. I still want to know what they were smoking when they drew that one up.

They didn't have the option of playing with the money by making his contract an extension. He played on the franchise tag and then got a new contract. With Luck's contract, the Colts had a paltry $16 million in year one to bring down the average cap hit.

Like I said about Flacco....I mean...he DID just WIN THE SUPERBOWL!!! and in the playoffs he went 11TD/0INT..i mean CMON...he actually was ELITE in the playoffs and won a title. WTF did Andrew Luck do to earn his massive contract?

He grew to have perfect measurables desired by NFL teams, has a hype machine behind him like no other and came up for a new contract at a time of the greatest cap growth in the history of the NFL... He is pretty good, but also quite Luck with his timing.

 

[WmHBonney]

Captain Mediocre gets paid...... :lol:

Hear! Hear!
:2thumbs:

 

[RolandDeschain]

I like how in your games trailing by 9 points in the 4th quarter the 1 and 2 teams are both opponents of luck in the AFC South :lol:

Yeah, he didn't even see the irony, I'm sure.

Also, someone hand him a Football for Dummies book so he can learn that QBs don't play against other QBs; they play against the opposing team's defense. Not to say the other team's offense has no impact on our own offense, that's absurd; but Lord almighty, Hasselbeck. :roll:

 

[MizzouHawkGal]

I like how in your games trailing by 9 points in the 4th quarter the 1 and 2 teams are both opponents of luck in the AFC South :lol:

Yeah, he didn't even see the irony, I'm sure.

Also, someone hand him a Football for Dummies book so he can learn that QBs don't play against other QBs; they play against the opposing team's defense. Not to say the other team's offense has no impact on our own offense, that's absurd; but Lord almighty, Hasselbeck. :roll:

As I said upthread he's a huge Luck fan. I still haven't figured out why. But the statistics argument was hilarious.

 

[Anonymous]

It doesn't suck, to be Luck.