Shock2k
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I'm really having a hard time figuring out how to decide a score for this game. I bought NFL Game rewind so decided to actually use it for something other than watching Seahawks highlights.
And as I start watching these games, I'm expecting Payton is throwing bombs downfield. But what I saw was his whole world revolves around 5 yard dump offs with massive gains. And a lot of them are going to Moreno. So I go and look at his stats.
He ran for 1038 yards, but caught 74 passes for 548 yards (9.1 average). Ok so it starts making a lot more sense. Denver lines up in a lot of three receiver sets. It would appear that he uses the weak side receivers to pull the corners up the field (if they get beat he throws to them), the slot receivers for the most part run a cross OR they run up and outs or up routes to pull the outside linebacker.
The creates a lot of space. And Moreno has been eating up yards on these plays. They are all 5 yard dunks with the defenders 5+ yards cushioned following receivers running routes. This gave him enough of a cushion to make some big plays via YAC.
Go to look at Denver's yards after the catch. #1 in the NFL. It would appear, especially against tight downfield coverage he just tears it up underneath. A lot of these 5 yard pass plays were going for 10, 15 and 20 yards.
here's another interesting stat. When Moreno averaged 4.7 yards a game, they lost the games. During these losses he would average 5.7 yards per reception.
On the opposite end in their wins Moreno would rush for 4.2 average per play. But his receiving was 9.7 yards a catch. 10 YARDS A CATCH? Almost all of these start out as 5 yard underneath dunks either to the left (delayed) or to the middle (delayed). I see why they line up continuously in 3/4 receiver sets.
It's almost like a ballet, ball snap, Moreno chips (1 second delay) then runs middle. Or he runs left to catch the quick out.
I'm not worried about Moreno rushing. I'm much more concerned that Manning would attempt to pull our man protection out and kill us with these underneath passing to Moreno. (Moreno is not the only one he does this with, he's also doing this with D. Thomas on occasion).
Oh when you decided to protect close or go zone to avoid this, is when he hits you in the middle.
I have full trust in our D, and I'm positive they know this and much more. I'm just curious how this all plays out.
And as I start watching these games, I'm expecting Payton is throwing bombs downfield. But what I saw was his whole world revolves around 5 yard dump offs with massive gains. And a lot of them are going to Moreno. So I go and look at his stats.
He ran for 1038 yards, but caught 74 passes for 548 yards (9.1 average). Ok so it starts making a lot more sense. Denver lines up in a lot of three receiver sets. It would appear that he uses the weak side receivers to pull the corners up the field (if they get beat he throws to them), the slot receivers for the most part run a cross OR they run up and outs or up routes to pull the outside linebacker.
The creates a lot of space. And Moreno has been eating up yards on these plays. They are all 5 yard dunks with the defenders 5+ yards cushioned following receivers running routes. This gave him enough of a cushion to make some big plays via YAC.
Go to look at Denver's yards after the catch. #1 in the NFL. It would appear, especially against tight downfield coverage he just tears it up underneath. A lot of these 5 yard pass plays were going for 10, 15 and 20 yards.
here's another interesting stat. When Moreno averaged 4.7 yards a game, they lost the games. During these losses he would average 5.7 yards per reception.
On the opposite end in their wins Moreno would rush for 4.2 average per play. But his receiving was 9.7 yards a catch. 10 YARDS A CATCH? Almost all of these start out as 5 yard underneath dunks either to the left (delayed) or to the middle (delayed). I see why they line up continuously in 3/4 receiver sets.
It's almost like a ballet, ball snap, Moreno chips (1 second delay) then runs middle. Or he runs left to catch the quick out.
I'm not worried about Moreno rushing. I'm much more concerned that Manning would attempt to pull our man protection out and kill us with these underneath passing to Moreno. (Moreno is not the only one he does this with, he's also doing this with D. Thomas on occasion).
Oh when you decided to protect close or go zone to avoid this, is when he hits you in the middle.
I have full trust in our D, and I'm positive they know this and much more. I'm just curious how this all plays out.