I think the Seahawks are going to trade Wilson.

[bevellisthedevil]

Russell Wilson had a rough second half to the season so some fans are down on him. Blowback from a trade would be less than in the past.

The front office have had discussions in the past about trading him.

The Seahawks have few draft picks and could bolster their draft.

Seahawks could give themselves a ton of cap space by moving pieces around namely Wilson.

Trade for Gardner Minshew who will not complain if starting and will do anything a coach wants and would be relatively cheap. In addition, you get a fan favorite type that would take the sting out of the trade.

 

[chris98251]

Russell Wilson had a rough second half to the season so some fans are down on him. Blowback from a trade would be less than in the past.

The front office have had discussions in the past about trading him.

The Seahawks have few draft picks and could bolster their draft.

Seahawks could give themselves a ton of cap space by moving pieces around namely Wilson.

Trade for Gardner Minshew who will not complain if starting and will do anything a coach wants and would be relatively cheap. In addition, you get a fan favorite type that would take the sting out of the trade.

Another option possibly agreed. We don't know the behind the scenes stuff with Wilson, he won't burn bridges publicly, but he wanted more of an open offense based on last years information and more hurry up and up tempo, we seen a bit of that when he was Cooking and then it got yanked back.

He can't be happy about that. Just curious if there is going to be anything public about Russell having input with the new OC hire, what transpires there will tell us where Russell is in the future plans.

Also John and Pete have to be looking at salary and return now as well as what's going forward, they both have shiny contracts, they want to keep most the defense based on what I read in the presser, not a lot about the offense.

 

[Sports Hernia]

Russ has a no trade clause in his contract, so it won’t happen.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.c ... atform=amp

 

[chris98251]

Russ has a no trade clause in his contract, so it won’t happen.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.c ... atform=amp

If he isn't happy he may wave it to the right team.

 

[Chapow]

Russell Wilson had a rough second half to the season so some fans are down on him. Blowback from a trade would be less than in the past.

The front office have had discussions in the past about trading him.

The Seahawks have few draft picks and could bolster their draft.

Seahawks could give themselves a ton of cap space by moving pieces around namely Wilson.

Trade for Gardner Minshew who will not complain if starting and will do anything a coach wants and would be relatively cheap. In addition, you get a fan favorite type that would take the sting out of the trade.

1. No way the Jags are giving up the #1 overall pick with Trevor Lawrence sitting there to be had.

2. Russ has a no trade clause and there's no way in hell he'd be willing to waive that in order to go to the dumpster fire of a franchise that is the Jacksonville Jaguars.

 

[chris98251]

Russell Wilson had a rough second half to the season so some fans are down on him. Blowback from a trade would be less than in the past.

The front office have had discussions in the past about trading him.

The Seahawks have few draft picks and could bolster their draft.

Seahawks could give themselves a ton of cap space by moving pieces around namely Wilson.

Trade for Gardner Minshew who will not complain if starting and will do anything a coach wants and would be relatively cheap. In addition, you get a fan favorite type that would take the sting out of the trade.

1. No way the Jags are giving up the #1 overall pick with Trevor Lawrence sitting there to be had.

2. Russ has a no trade clause and there's no way in hell he'd be willing to waive that in order to go to the dumpster fire of a franchise that is the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Number one picks are expensive to keep around, especially QB's that and a QB is at best a 50/50 risk. Wilson is proven that's one aspect, secondly he is in his prime, another aspect.

The disqualifier is his no trade Claus, he wants to win and not wait.

 

[bevellisthedevil]

Russell Wilson had a rough second half to the season so some fans are down on him. Blowback from a trade would be less than in the past.

The front office have had discussions in the past about trading him.

The Seahawks have few draft picks and could bolster their draft.

Seahawks could give themselves a ton of cap space by moving pieces around namely Wilson.

Trade for Gardner Minshew who will not complain if starting and will do anything a coach wants and would be relatively cheap. In addition, you get a fan favorite type that would take the sting out of the trade.

1. No way the Jags are giving up the #1 overall pick with Trevor Lawrence sitting there to be had.

2. Russ has a no trade clause and there's no way in hell he'd be willing to waive that in order to go to the dumpster fire of a franchise that is the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Should have specified that someone like Gardner Minshew would not have to be part of a package that included Wilson, Sorry. Totally separate trade.

 

[KinesProf]

Trade for Gardner Minshew who will not complain if starting and will do anything a coach wants and would be relatively cheap. In addition, you get a fan favorite type that would take the sting out of the trade.

Becoming as bad as the Wilson to Minshew regression at the QB position would make you doesn't pay off with the Jets holding the Seahawks 2022 first round pick.

I'd be incredibly indifferent to him being a fan favorite; that doesn't win you games. Would do nothing to absolve the sting of becoming an awful team that doesn't hold their own first round pick for 2 years.

 

[Scorpion05]

It may get to a point where Russ demands a trade. Where he talks to Pete and lets him know this relationship may not work anymore.

Didn’t Wilson say he wanted to be a part owner of the Seahawks one day? Schneider must have felt uncomfortable when he heard that.

Shouldn't be. No way Russ is ever anywhere near the money he'd need for even minority ownership. His only hope is if he starts a business that takes way off.

Gotta hand it to ya, at least you're consistent. No way, in his lifetime could Russ amass the wealth to possibly buy a team. Not like he has a head start, or any investments, or a successful wife. Too dumb to ever earn that much I guess.

 

[keasley45]

It may get to a point where Russ demands a trade. Where he talks to Pete and lets him know this relationship may not work anymore.

Didn’t Wilson say he wanted to be a part owner of the Seahawks one day? Schneider must have felt uncomfortable when he heard that.

Shouldn't be. No way Russ is ever anywhere near the money he'd need for even minority ownership. His only hope is if he starts a business that takes way off.

Gotta hand it to ya, at least you're consistent. No way, in his lifetime could Russ amass the wealth to possibly buy a team. Not like he has a head start, or any investments, or a successful wife. Too dumb to ever earn that much I guess.

Dude is already worth 135mil

 

[OrangeGravy]

Russell Wilson had a rough second half to the season so some fans are down on him. Blowback from a trade would be less than in the past.

The front office have had discussions in the past about trading him.

The Seahawks have few draft picks and could bolster their draft.

Seahawks could give themselves a ton of cap space by moving pieces around namely Wilson.

Trade for Gardner Minshew who will not complain if starting and will do anything a coach wants and would be relatively cheap. In addition, you get a fan favorite type that would take the sting out of the trade.

I wouldn't be upset with that scenario as a stop gap for a couple years to get the D solidified and if it came with a bunch of draft picks.

 

[bevellisthedevil]

Trade for Gardner Minshew who will not complain if starting and will do anything a coach wants and would be relatively cheap. In addition, you get a fan favorite type that would take the sting out of the trade.

Becoming as bad as the Wilson to Minshew regression at the QB position would make you doesn't pay off with the Jets holding the Seahawks 2022 first round pick.

I'd be incredibly indifferent to him being a fan favorite; that doesn't win you games. Would do nothing to absolve the sting of becoming an awful team that doesn't hold their own first round pick for 2 years.

Didn't think of that second 1st round pick going to the Jets. I don't think that Minshew regression would be as steep as you think though. Minshew isn't going to double cluch his way into 177 yards in a playoff game. Dude is fearless. Not as good as Wilson or as talented but will die out on the field for you.

 

[Rat]

It may get to a point where Russ demands a trade. Where he talks to Pete and lets him know this relationship may not work anymore.

Didn’t Wilson say he wanted to be a part owner of the Seahawks one day? Schneider must have felt uncomfortable when he heard that.

Shouldn't be. No way Russ is ever anywhere near the money he'd need for even minority ownership. His only hope is if he starts a business that takes way off.

Gotta hand it to ya, at least you're consistent. No way, in his lifetime could Russ amass the wealth to possibly buy a team. Not like he has a head start, or any investments, or a successful wife. Too dumb to ever earn that much I guess.

You should look up what NFL teams are worth. There’s a reason they’re not owned by former athletes or entertainers.

 

[Rat]

It may get to a point where Russ demands a trade. Where he talks to Pete and lets him know this relationship may not work anymore.

Didn’t Wilson say he wanted to be a part owner of the Seahawks one day? Schneider must have felt uncomfortable when he heard that.

Shouldn't be. No way Russ is ever anywhere near the money he'd need for even minority ownership. His only hope is if he starts a business that takes way off.

Gotta hand it to ya, at least you're consistent. No way, in his lifetime could Russ amass the wealth to possibly buy a team. Not like he has a head start, or any investments, or a successful wife. Too dumb to ever earn that much I guess.

Dude is already worth 135mil

That gets him to 4% of the Seahawks’ most recent valuation.

 

[HD48]

Just a gut feeling. I am probably 100% wrong.

I don't think that Wilson will make it public that he's unhappy with the current management and coaching. I believe that Carroll and Schneider are wanting a complete rebuild and one reason John was extended. I don't think it will ever be public on either side. I just think it will happen before the draft.

Am I the only one with this feeling?

Thoughts?

If Pete want's to go run heavy nothing BUT trading Russ would make sense.
You have 35M tied up at QB, you dont have a top 10 O-Line and not a top-tier RB.
If they want a total rebuild, Trade Russ for draft capital and cap space and then build a team that suits what you wanna do. Right now this roster is all over the place

 

[Sports Hernia]

Trade for Gardner Minshew who will not complain if starting and will do anything a coach wants and would be relatively cheap. In addition, you get a fan favorite type that would take the sting out of the trade.

Becoming as bad as the Wilson to Minshew regression at the QB position would make you doesn't pay off with the Jets holding the Seahawks 2022 first round pick.

I'd be incredibly indifferent to him being a fan favorite; that doesn't win you games. Would do nothing to absolve the sting of becoming an awful team that doesn't hold their own first round pick for 2 years.

Didn't think of that second 1st round pick going to the Jets. I don't think that Minshew regression would be as steep as you think though. Minshew isn't going to double cluch his way into 177 yards in a playoff game. Dude is fearless. Not as good as Wilson or as talented but will die out on the field for you.

Minshew would be on the IR often with our O-line.

 

[ducks41468]

Just a gut feeling. I am probably 100% wrong.

I don't think that Wilson will make it public that he's unhappy with the current management and coaching. I believe that Carroll and Schneider are wanting a complete rebuild and one reason John was extended. I don't think it will ever be public on either side. I just think it will happen before the draft.

Am I the only one with this feeling?

Thoughts?

If Pete want's to go run heavy nothing BUT trading Russ would make sense.
You have 35M tied up at QB, you dont have a top 10 O-Line and not a top-tier RB.
If they want a total rebuild, Trade Russ for draft capital and cap space and then build a team that suits what you wanna do. Right now this roster is all over the place

If the plan is truly to reign things in and go back to "pound da rawk" then it really doesn't make any sense to keep Russ. If you're just looking for a guy to throw for 150-200 yards and a TD here and there Minshew could easily do that, with the same number of turnovers and sacks. It's not like Wilson has ever put up crazy efficiency numbers when given fewer pass attempts and a vanilla playbook (after all, good QB's generally get better with more volume, not the inverse relationship), as we saw in the last half of the season.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Minshew over Russ? :34853_doh:

 

[ducks41468]

Minshew over Russ? :34853_doh:

I mean his numbers weren't far off of what Russ did since week 5. Plus that game against the Colts in week 1 may be the holy grail of QB performances by Peteball standards.

 

[ZagHawk]

Just a gut feeling. I am probably 100% wrong.

I don't think that Wilson will make it public that he's unhappy with the current management and coaching. I believe that Carroll and Schneider are wanting a complete rebuild and one reason John was extended. I don't think it will ever be public on either side. I just think it will happen before the draft.

Am I the only one with this feeling?

Thoughts?

If Pete is going to run the gameplan his way, the team he needs to make it happen cannot happen with Russ' salary. Petes way can win a SB (and get there) we already saw it, but people fail to realize RW was on a rookie contract and there was 30+M of money that the Seahawks were able to use to have a better O-line, Defense, RB, etc. etc. the stuff people are complaining about right now as the reason for the weakness. Drafting is a crap shoot, you're lucky to get half of them to be starting caliber and maybe one pro bowl player a year (if that). If Pete is who the Seahawks org is going forward with and we as fans want to see this team legitimately COMPETE (NFCCG or bust)...RW and his salary has to go. If Russ was being paid like an average QB and not a top 3 QB...this is not a question. But as of now he's paid as a top 3 QB, and either a) he can't consistently perform like one or b) he can consistently perform as one, but Pete refuses to use him as one...so this is where we are. BTW I've been writing this same stuff for at least a few years now. This isn't an overreaction to another playoff loss, this is a how many times are you gonna burn your hand on the stove until you finally stop putting your hand on the stove.