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Largent80":3qktpn0w said:Can't Paul Allen do something about this?
I mean it sounds like he could perhaps pay off one of these dishonest officials that rainger says are probably out there.
Largent80":3qktpn0w said:Can't Paul Allen do something about this?
rainger":2ovyz9pd said:So your response to try to show that some how my posts are "crazy" doesn't answer the question. Please note I do not think the NFL has a conspiracy against the Hawks, but I truly believe there are some dishonest refs.
You are therefore implying that I am some crazy guy because I believe there could be dishonest people in the officiating of the NFL. You obviously believe that not one of them has some friend put money on the line of a game.
So please explain how the NFL managed to hire %100 honest people with no agenda and none who have succumbed to the dark side finding how easy it would to call a PI to ensure the spread was or was not maintained. Yet no other profession in the world has %100 honest people.
Rather than dismiss the idea, that there are dishonest refs, by trying to imply I am nuts, please explain how you believe that there is not one bad egg in the NFL officiating crews who makes calls for the benefit of the line????
rainger":15wgttf9 said:Where can I find the "head in the sand" emote-icon?
MidwestHawker":bnzpuqy8 said:rainger":bnzpuqy8 said:Where can I find the "head in the sand" emote-icon?
"Head in the sand" would imply that I'm willfully ignoring something.
What am I willfully ignoring? What evidence is there of deliberately dishonest officiating? If you put evidence in front of me I'll be happy to give it all due consideration.
rainger":m319pq3p said:Like I said in another post:
What I find most interesting is that so many people think that all the officials are all trying and none are dishonest and trying to manipulate the game. If you say they are trying to change the result and are corrupt you get the old answer calling you a conspiracy theorist and it is only" mistakes". Those defending the refs don't want to believe that calls could be deliberate and corrupt.
However I ask this. What percentage of the general population are dishonest??? Is it 10% 20 more? Well what ever number you come up with that is probably the percent of dishonest refs in the NFL. It is unbelievable that so many can believe that 100% of the refs are honest? If Basketball or Baseball can have a ref trying to manipulate the result, why can't that happen in football? If it is 20% then you have a corrupt ref in every crew or 2 or more in others.
Anyone who believes that all 100% of the refs are honest and only making "mistakes" because they are incompetent is delusional and has their head in the sand. Yes Salk this also includes you.
rainger":106pk5j7 said:That's right you live relatively close to Missouri. I give :stirthepot:
Jiggy":c4so9h72 said:I still think the NFL should be fined, in form of financial compensation to the team for every bad call an official makes.
MidwestHawker":1rgvrzp6 said:rainger":1rgvrzp6 said:That's right you live relatively close to Missouri. I give :stirthepot:
So it is your stance that we should assume that criminal behavior exists where zero evidence exists to suggest it?
rainger":29iy8ps4 said:MidwestHawker":29iy8ps4 said:rainger":29iy8ps4 said:That's right you live relatively close to Missouri. I give :stirthepot:
So it is your stance that we should assume that criminal behavior exists where zero evidence exists to suggest it?
It is mere mathematical statistical probability. Many like you believed the world was flat once. Regardless of the information presented that suggested different they did not have the "evidence"
You need "proof" your posts suggest you are an ISTJ. I however look at all the what if and what could be based upon all the other circumstances in life. The empirical evidence and statistical probability practically guarantees that a ref can be bought and is betting on games.
I don't need one to be charged in a court of law to "have proof"
Super bowl xl ...... :thfight7:MidwestHawker":jtwzx1cq said:rainger":jtwzx1cq said:Where can I find the "head in the sand" emote-icon?
"Head in the sand" would imply that I'm willfully ignoring something.
What am I willfully ignoring? What evidence is there of deliberately dishonest officiating? If you put evidence in front of me I'll be happy to give it all due consideration.
hawksincebirth":1cisdzxg said:Super bowl xl ...... :thfight7:
:3-1: :251864: :duel: :white_flag:MidwestHawker":1ekhqira said:rainger":1ekhqira said:MidwestHawker":1ekhqira said:rainger":1ekhqira said:That's right you live relatively close to Missouri. I give :stirthepot:
So it is your stance that we should assume that criminal behavior exists where zero evidence exists to suggest it?
It is mere mathematical statistical probability. Many like you believed the world was flat once. Regardless of the information presented that suggested different they did not have the "evidence"
You need "proof" your posts suggest you are an ISTJ. I however look at all the what if and what could be based upon all the other circumstances in life. The empirical evidence and statistical probability practically guarantees that a ref can be bought and is betting on games.
I don't need one to be charged in a court of law to "have proof"
Haven't done a Myers-Briggs in quite some time but I think I always tested as an INTJ.
Anyway, so this is a math thing for you? I'm down with math and I detest those who reject math, so perhaps you can convince me mathematically. What numbers are you plugging in to reach your conclusion?
rainger":3vedc4vs said::3-1: :251864: :duel: :white_flag:
Nothing. Sorry I am too old to be drawn into a pissing match.MidwestHawker":1v4kgqez said:rainger":1v4kgqez said::3-1: :251864: :duel: :white_flag:
Huh? I just said I'd be happy to go along with framing it in the context that you would prefer, and then asked you to explain it within that framing. What did I do wrong now?
A "Reds" player was gambling on scores lolmikeak":16kkuxhy said:I watch games every Sunday with horrible decisions or rulings.
Sometimes it is missed facemasks like TWO by Seattle yesterday against 49ers
Sometimes it is blown PI calls like against Seattle
Should I believe the Reds are gambling on scores by quarters?....