rideaducati":2gbtwbrz said:
NINEster":2gbtwbrz said:
The most insulting thing about the whole Kap to Denver saga is Elway being an arrogant prick about it.
As someone pointed out to me, Elway was ready to give BROCK OSWEILER $16 million per year after 7 starts and a lower career QB rating than Kap, and here he is nickel and diming Kap like he's garbage.
Let's get one thing straight here:
Colin Kaepernick has done way more in this league than Osweiler has so far. Comparing their first 7 career starts isn't even on the same level.....one guy plays in a Super Bowl throwing 300 yards on 10 YPA, the other backs up a QB on his last legs who only won because his defense was lights out.
One forced an entrenched starter to be traded, the other lucked out on a dinosaur retiring.
Osweiler may well go on to be a decent QB in this league but we've yet to see any proof of that. This logic of giving him $16 per, you would have had to give Kap at least $20 if he was an FA after 2012.
Osweiler sat on the bench for a lot longer than Kap, had more weapons than him and still got displaced by a subpar QB.
The entire thing is ridiculous.
You either believe you're getting 2012/2013 Kap or you're not with this trade.
If Crabtree catches just one of several passes at the end of 2012 or 2013, Kaepernick is a top 5-10 QB in this league till the end of time.
Crazy world we live in.
Kaepernick's first 10 games were prior to teams knowing what he could do...teams found out and Kaepernick's abilities stayed the same. Kaepernick is not a good QB...He has never been a good QB... He will never be a good QB. Because the niners were winning, you niner fans actually think he was good. If you rate QBs that way, Dilfer was the best QB for one year too.
This revisionist history in regards to Kaepernick is funny. He wasn't good.
And I could sit here and launch a lot of similar diatribe towards Wilson.
Let's take a look at Wilson's career:
2012 playoffs - lost in Atlanta. Kap won in Atlanta.
2013 playoffs - Barely beat the Saints. Barely beat the 49ers. Emphasis on barely not just on final scores, but the contributions needed from Lynch and that D. You drop down those two factors to 2015 levels and the Hawks lose both games with a 99% certainty.
2014 playoffs - Wilson plays a decent game at home against the Panthers. Need I elaborate more on Green Bay? Super Bowl, Wilson makes a few plays to Mathews. Otherwise New England had him pretty well controlled. Brady had to win with no running game, and if Wilson had similar output from Lynch this game isn't close.
2015 playoffs - After an "amazing" regular season, Wilson certainly underperformed in the postseason.
Wilson played decently in his Super Bowls, but the road to get there was always worse than the final game.
Here's what you're missing:
Kap may not be a great QB. But he was a good QB that got his teams far. If you want to deny that, then do know that Kap would have gotten SF into the SB against the Patriots back in 2011 (not as a rookie, but just saying).
You want to pin it on the San Francisco 49ers being so awesome? (revisionist history has a majority of .NET talking smack about SF all the way up to the 2013 NFCCG when finally "damn, they're a good team" was admitted)....
How about Carson Palmer this year? What happened there? Andy Dalton's Bengals have yet to make a real dent in the postseason, no?
Wilson supposedly answered his critics this regular season "carrying" the Hawks at last with #s to show.......but in the postseason we saw none of that.
The Broncos would have loved a SB rematch this year.
We can play this game both ways, Panigale.
Wilson and Kap were very much neck and neck in the early years up to 2014. This past year Wilson pulled away because his team didn't become overnight garbage. Carroll, Bevell and Schneider have done a good job keeping a good team and scheme around him.