Sports Hernia
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Nope, just by getting rid of Cabevell made this team is so much better.Sports Hernia":3jhwozpu said:misfit":3jhwozpu said:well we just got worse
Just an average OC can make this offense work well.
Nope, just by getting rid of Cabevell made this team is so much better.Sports Hernia":3jhwozpu said:misfit":3jhwozpu said:well we just got worse
Mistashoesta":2xv295su said:Holy $#&@ some of you are unbelievable. The guys been stuck with horrible talent for most of his career. He hasn't even coordinated one game yet and it's already over? And did I really just see someone say they want DB back? Give the guy a chance. Besides, last time I checked, "expected to hire" did not mean the same thing as "officially hire".
Hawk-Lock":1o2v8hhg said:If Shotty was the OC for Brees or Rodgers we would probably be singing a different song right now.
So much of coaching has to do with the roster you have. Do you think Dan Quinn would be this great coach if he took over the Browns? Bill O'Brien went from looking like one of the worst to one of the best coaches with DeShaun Watson.
PC could have been a joke in the NFL if he didn't land in Seattle.
Lets see what he can do with an actual QB.
Hawk-Lock":1ca3pceo said:If Shotty was the OC for Brees or Rodgers we would probably be singing a different song right now.
So much of coaching has to do with the roster you have. Do you think Dan Quinn would be this great coach if he took over the Browns? Bill O'Brien went from looking like one of the worst to one of the best coaches with DeShaun Watson.
PC could have been a joke in the NFL if he didn't land in Seattle.
Lets see what he can do with an actual QB.
MontanaHawk05":3amcg9st said:Mistashoesta":3amcg9st said:Holy $#&@ some of you are unbelievable. The guys been stuck with horrible talent for most of his career. He hasn't even coordinated one game yet and it's already over? And did I really just see someone say they want DB back? Give the guy a chance. Besides, last time I checked, "expected to hire" did not mean the same thing as "officially hire".
Multiple sources have reported that the job has been offered.
Average > than the worst, so there is that.Hawkpower":3upm8dfm said:Hawk-Lock":3upm8dfm said:If Shotty was the OC for Brees or Rodgers we would probably be singing a different song right now.
So much of coaching has to do with the roster you have. Do you think Dan Quinn would be this great coach if he took over the Browns? Bill O'Brien went from looking like one of the worst to one of the best coaches with DeShaun Watson.
PC could have been a joke in the NFL if he didn't land in Seattle.
Lets see what he can do with an actual QB.
While I agree with you, this offense just had a so so coordinator, with a great QB, and they were bad this past season.
If Shotty is also a so-so coordinator, then the "hes got talent now" theory isn't really going to help is it? Even though they don't grow on trees I think some of us were hoping Pete would reach for a guy that can maximize his talent, not succeed only if hes got it.
And for those of you saying "well it can't be worse than Bevell" what kind of mindset is that? So if we hire a guy that is just average, we are all ok with it because hes marginally better than Bevell? What's wrong with at least hoping for a vetted process where guys with a higher ceiling are considered?
Shot might be a diamond in the rough just waiting for the right situation. Its possible. But I would rather roll the dice on a younger voice that might be dynamic, rather than praying that Shotty's poor track record is just due to all kinds of bad luck.....
Mistashoesta":27hgfkvy said:Holy $#&@ some of you are unbelievable. The guys been stuck with horrible talent for most of his career. He hasn't even coordinated one game yet and it's already over? And did I really just see someone say they want DB back? Give the guy a chance. Besides, last time I checked, "expected to hire" did not mean the same thing as "officially hire".
Sports Hernia":3aupx8h9 said:Average > than the worst, so there is that.Hawkpower":3aupx8h9 said:Hawk-Lock":3aupx8h9 said:If Shotty was the OC for Brees or Rodgers we would probably be singing a different song right now.
So much of coaching has to do with the roster you have. Do you think Dan Quinn would be this great coach if he took over the Browns? Bill O'Brien went from looking like one of the worst to one of the best coaches with DeShaun Watson.
PC could have been a joke in the NFL if he didn't land in Seattle.
Lets see what he can do with an actual QB.
While I agree with you, this offense just had a so so coordinator, with a great QB, and they were bad this past season.
If Shotty is also a so-so coordinator, then the "hes got talent now" theory isn't really going to help is it? Even though they don't grow on trees I think some of us were hoping Pete would reach for a guy that can maximize his talent, not succeed only if hes got it.
And for those of you saying "well it can't be worse than Bevell" what kind of mindset is that? So if we hire a guy that is just average, we are all ok with it because hes marginally better than Bevell? What's wrong with at least hoping for a vetted process where guys with a higher ceiling are considered?
Shot might be a diamond in the rough just waiting for the right situation. Its possible. But I would rather roll the dice on a younger voice that might be dynamic, rather than praying that Shotty's poor track record is just due to all kinds of bad luck.....
Average > than the worst, so there is that.Hawkpower":19xpy2an said:Hawk-Lock":19xpy2an said:If Shotty was the OC for Brees or Rodgers we would probably be singing a different song right now.
So much of coaching has to do with the roster you have. Do you think Dan Quinn would be this great coach if he took over the Browns? Bill O'Brien went from looking like one of the worst to one of the best coaches with DeShaun Watson.
PC could have been a joke in the NFL if he didn't land in Seattle.
Lets see what he can do with an actual QB.
While I agree with you, this offense just had a so so coordinator, with a great QB, and they were bad this past season.
If Shotty is also a so-so coordinator, then the "hes got talent now" theory isn't really going to help is it? Even though they don't grow on trees I think some of us were hoping Pete would reach for a guy that can maximize his talent, not succeed only if hes got it.
And for those of you saying "well it can't be worse than Bevell" what kind of mindset is that? So if we hire a guy that is just average, we are all ok with it because hes marginally better than Bevell? What's wrong with at least hoping for a vetted process where guys with a higher ceiling are considered?
Shot might be a diamond in the rough just waiting for the right situation. Its possible. But I would rather roll the dice on a younger voice that might be dynamic, rather than praying that Shotty's poor track record is just due to all kinds of bad luck.....
Better gameplanning, and better play calling will get Russ to the next level.Coug_Hawk08":28cy29g6 said:Did we even interview? This seems incredibly rushed and impulsive move by Pete. Couldn’t wait a couple more weeks for other candidates?
I just don’t see shot being the guy to take Russ to the next level.
Sports Hernia":2z5xzwlf said:Better gameplanning, and better play calling will get Russ to the next level.Coug_Hawk08":2z5xzwlf said:Did we even interview? This seems incredibly rushed and impulsive move by Pete. Couldn’t wait a couple more weeks for other candidates?
I just don’t see shot being the guy to take Russ to the next level.
nanomoz":11abbkx1 said:I hope he's actually given a chance to implement his own vision, not Carroll/Bevel redux. A subordinate subordinate is exactly what Pete doesn't need.
All I can say is watch the gameplanning and watch the playcalling next season, it will be different.MontanaHawk05":3aff6mio said:Sports Hernia":3aff6mio said:Better gameplanning, and better play calling will get Russ to the next level.Coug_Hawk08":3aff6mio said:Did we even interview? This seems incredibly rushed and impulsive move by Pete. Couldn’t wait a couple more weeks for other candidates?
I just don’t see shot being the guy to take Russ to the next level.
You need to be talking about replacing the head coach, then. Schotty is a disciple of the same system Bevell was running. There isn't going to be much that changes.
Sports Hernia":1wl9haz5 said:Nope, just by getting rid of Cabevell made this team is so much better.Sports Hernia":1wl9haz5 said:misfit":1wl9haz5 said:well we just got worse
Just an average OC can make this offense work well.
Down Under Hawk":15nlapuh said:getnasty":15nlapuh said:Hard to get excited about this, my buddy is a Georgia fan and claims he was bad there too. Finished in the bottom half of offenses 7 of 8 seasons in the NFL. That's bullshit
This thread is exactly the same negative nelly shit that was espoused on .NET when PC was hired. I am having deja vue all over again.
Give the guy a chance. The bigger issue will be getting some bodies for the O line and a Oline coach that actually gets them blocking. I think people will be pleasently surprised bu Schotts.
The team no longer has 2 people running the O and will now have one clear focus and direction that is much more of a change up O than 3 play DB could ever do.
Bobblehead":yppf1qdp said:Doesn't matter who we hire, nothing will change unless we get better blocking and better execution.
Doesn't matter who we hire, everything will change if we get better blocking and better execution.
The Seahawks have a competent QBRockinHawks":fijjv7ne said:Ohhhhhh boyyyyy.....well, he had some success when he had competent QBs!
The_Z_Man":1n7etzv4 said:Unmitigated disaster.
The absolute worst candidate possible.
I feel like.... ukeface: ukeface: ukeface: ukeface: ukeface: ukeface:
Well, I guess one thing is for sure.
We will eventually see a new HC and a regime change, because we aren't winning crap with that boring offense.
That Rams offense he coached was one of the worst I've ever seen.
MontanaHawk05":1kntzae6 said:Bobblehead":1kntzae6 said:Doesn't matter who we hire, nothing will change unless we get better blocking and better execution.
Doesn't matter who we hire, everything will change if we get better blocking and better execution.
It's pretty telling that our hope is pinned to this, rather than to Brian Schottenheimer.
I dunno. I have no choice but to give him a shot. But I really wanted an innovator.