Bad Games Happen, But.....

[WestcoastSteve]

Kamara is really good -- he made Bobby, Kendricks and KJ all miss and those guys rarely miss tackles. The point of throwing to a RB out of the backfield is that you can't really just shut them down, you can't jam them at the LOS and if you're too aggressive they beat you downfield.

You just have to tackle them in space and that's easier said then done.

 

[Vesuve]

Bad day. The special teams, the poor pass D, the clock management, calling a Go route on 4th and 1 on a wet day, the weird decision to go for 1 instead of 2.

Yeah, I see it the same way.

As for a player screw up, who was the dummy not in uniform who walked onto the field causing that penalty?

That was Tedric Thompson, according to media Twitter.

Thanks.

That dope.

 

[xray]

We gifted them 4 of the 5 TDs so I'd say the defense was decent. The defense wasn't even on the field for 2 of them ffs.

So far this season the homers say that most of the opponents scores were " gifted " . No realistic analogy as usual .

 

[ZagHawk]

Here we are 2-1... They had a stinker and people are really over reacting. I dont get it...

LTH

People are overreacting because it was a missed opportunity to start 3-0 in a division that is competing. And ...our Hawks lost to a Bree-less Saints team...at home. Somethings you can chalk up to "it's football" like that punt return to start the game, yeah those happen. Carson fumbling 3 consecutive games, that's not an overreaction to be upset as a fan thinking that should have been adressed 1-2 games ago.

 

[DomeHawk]

This team has become so painful to watch.

Anybody else feel that way?

 

[ZagHawk]

This team has become so painful to watch.

Anybody else feel that way?

I think the issue is with the identity of how they play. So when you're seeing the same glaring problems get exposed (by good teams) and not adressed year after year..it is painful. It's no secret that a short quick effective passing game beats this defensive scheme and not many teams can do it, but when you see it done you do question when they will have a mitigation plan for teams that execute that way.

 

[xray]

This team has become so painful to watch.

Anybody else feel that way?

LOL ..other than maybe 10 seasons since 1976 ...they always have been painful to watch . 8)

 

[Sgt. Largent]

This team has become so painful to watch.

Anybody else feel that way?

Yesterday was certainly painful. But no, not for someone like me that watched every minute of 2-14 type seasons.

Let's face it, we were spoiled for a good 3-4 years......and now that's the expectations we have on Sunday, to see another dominant team rise up and win a SB.

Probably not going to happen, just doesn't in the NFL unless you're Belichick and Brady. It just doesn't. So painful? No, but maybe we all do need to take a step back and lower our expectation that there's probably not going to be a return to dominance.

 

[Madrid Hawk]

Local Team Reads Press Clippings.


Forgets To Show Up To Actual Game.

 

[Seymour]

We gifted them 4 of the 5 TDs so I'd say the defense was decent. The defense wasn't even on the field for 2 of them ffs.

Bad coaching.

Exactly!!

Name that game in 2 words = Bad coaching!!!

When it comes to game planning, adjusting in game, making intelligent in game decisions.....Payton > Carroll

 

[Sgt. Largent]

When it comes to game planning, adjusting in game, making intelligent in game decisions.....Payton > Carroll

Every coach > Pete when it comes to situational decisions. Including high school coaches.

Seriously, he's awful. Normally coaches who know they're bad at in-game situational decision making (which Pete has to know he's bad at right?) have a nerd somewhere, either on the sideline or up in the booth to defer to who will bark in his ear as to what to do.

Not sure why it's so hard for Pete. But it is, REALLY hard.

 

[DomeHawk]

This team has become so painful to watch.

Anybody else feel that way?

Yesterday was certainly painful. But no, not for someone like me that watched every minute of 2-14 type seasons.

Let's face it, we were spoiled for a good 3-4 years......and now that's the expectations we have on Sunday, to see another dominant team rise up and win a SB.

Probably not going to happen, just doesn't in the NFL unless you're Belichick and Brady. It just doesn't. So painful? No, but maybe we all do need to take a step back and lower our expectation that there's probably not going to be a return to dominance.

Of course you are correct and it isn't lost on me. My expectations aren't unreasonable, it's just the WAY this team plays.

It makes me very uncomfortable.

Playing not to lose instead of playing to win.

Man!

 

[had2bhawk]

Crazy, isn't it?

Carrol, running in front of football.

Return by NO for a TD, which was given by sloppy tackling technique and lasted throughout the game.

Wilson,( forgive me Russ) throwing into the dirt.

Carson, fumble again.

Ifedi,.... :roll: for being Ifedi. He did do better though.

Just wasn't meant to be this week. It's only week 3, Hawks gave up one, at home I may add but, it's a wake up call. I'm still happy They won the first 2. I see them winning 11-12 games. Keep the faith!

 

[Sgt. Largent]

This team has become so painful to watch.

Anybody else feel that way?

Yesterday was certainly painful. But no, not for someone like me that watched every minute of 2-14 type seasons.

Let's face it, we were spoiled for a good 3-4 years......and now that's the expectations we have on Sunday, to see another dominant team rise up and win a SB.

Probably not going to happen, just doesn't in the NFL unless you're Belichick and Brady. It just doesn't. So painful? No, but maybe we all do need to take a step back and lower our expectation that there's probably not going to be a return to dominance.

Of course you are correct and it isn't lost on me. My expectations aren't unreasonable, it's just the WAY this team plays.

It makes me very uncomfortable.

Playing not to lose instead of playing to win.

Man!

Ha...........I'm with ya man, I am. But if we take a objective observation of the Hawks, we've got it pretty good compared to the large majority of fan bases and teams.

I remember in the 80's and 90's just wishing we'd be in the playoff hunt in November so I'd have just a reason to watch the Hawks..............the POSSIBILITY of making the playoffs.

So yeah, games like yesterday drive me crazy. But we've got it pretty damn good. Hard to complain too much, even though we do.

 

[themunn]

Backup QB sure, but Bridgewater went 11-5 as a starter in his last season before injury. Now he has sat behind Brees for a year and surely has improved.

I'm not saying he's a world beater, but it's not like lining up against Charlie Whitehurst.

He wasn't spectacular yesterday, but he does what Teddy Bridgewater does - dumps the ball off, avoids sacks, and keeps the chains moving. Having Kamara who is a threat as a runner and receiver helps.
And the Saints weren't spectacular yesterday. Only 19 of their points came from the offense, one of their scoring drives was 28 yards and another was extended after a missed field goal due to a really stupid penalty. I mean, in total they had 265 yards on offense. That sounds like they gameplanned well enough to me - but you can't gameplan for giving away points due to individual errors, of which 4 of their TDs came from.

 

[ImTheScientist]

https://www.fieldgulls.com/2019/9/22/20 ... s-nfl-news

Nice write up on just how bad Carson has been.

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

When it comes to game planning, adjusting in game, making intelligent in game decisions.....Payton > Carroll

Every coach > Pete when it comes to situational decisions. Including high school coaches.

Seriously, he's awful. Normally coaches who know they're bad at in-game situational decision making (which Pete has to know he's bad at right?) have a nerd somewhere, either on the sideline or up in the booth to defer to who will bark in his ear as to what to do.

Not sure why it's so hard for Pete. But it is, REALLY hard.

Ego?

 

[John63]

Crazy, isn't it?

Carrol, running in front of football.

Return by NO for a TD, which was given by sloppy tackling technique and lasted throughout the game.

Wilson,( forgive me Russ) throwing into the dirt.

Carson, fumble again.

Ifedi,.... :roll: for being Ifedi. He did do better though.

Just wasn't meant to be this week. It's only week 3, Hawks gave up one, at home I may add but, it's a wake up call. I'm still happy They won the first 2. I see them winning 11-12 games. Keep the faith!

Point of note out 50 passes only 2 that were not caught were in the dirt. He completed over 64%. Wilson was not the problem yesterday at all.

 

[had2bhawk]

Crazy, isn't it?

Carrol, running in front of football.

Return by NO for a TD, which was given by sloppy tackling technique and lasted throughout the game.

Wilson,( forgive me Russ) throwing into the dirt.

Carson, fumble again.

Ifedi,.... :roll: for being Ifedi. He did do better though.

Just wasn't meant to be this week. It's only week 3, Hawks gave up one, at home I may add but, it's a wake up call. I'm still happy They won the first 2. I see them winning 11-12 games. Keep the faith!

Point of note out 50 passes only 2 that were not caught were in the dirt. He completed over 64%. Wilson was not the problem yesterday at all.

WILSON, was not the problem, just throws that he usually makes.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

When it comes to game planning, adjusting in game, making intelligent in game decisions.....Payton > Carroll

Every coach > Pete when it comes to situational decisions. Including high school coaches.

Seriously, he's awful. Normally coaches who know they're bad at in-game situational decision making (which Pete has to know he's bad at right?) have a nerd somewhere, either on the sideline or up in the booth to defer to who will bark in his ear as to what to do.

Not sure why it's so hard for Pete. But it is, REALLY hard.

Ego?

Most certainly......and it's hard to blame Pete. He's one of the most successful college and now pro HC's of all time.

So if we're all waiting for him to change? It's not going to happen. He believes in his core philosophies of;

- physical run game
- protect the ball
- explosive plays
- take the ball away
- competition
- out physical, out hit and out work your opponents

Problem is we're not really doing any of these things this year so far, except explosive plays.....and IMO that's more to do with Russell than Pete.

So that's all I'd tell Pete if I had the chance. If these are your core philosophies, then right now you're failing this team as it's HC. So either fix it, or allow your O-coordinator and QB more freedom with playcalling.