Zach Charbonet is a bruiser, use him!

[ivotuk]

He has looked really good, and much better for our style of running game than K9.

K9 is a jitterbug, and very good, in the right system, with an experienced OLine, but for what we have, Zach is the better choice. As we have seen, Zach can juke them, or run them over, getting good yardage, asks should be the only choice in short yardage.

Ray Roberts agrees, and said Charbonet is better for the scheme we use. I have no idea what he's talking about, but I do know what mine own eyes have seen, and they've seen Zach as the starter, with K9 spelling him, until we get better blocking at least..

 

[keasley45]

Agree that Charbs is maybe be suited to the inside runs where you have to get to the hole quickly before it closes. I just dont know that he should start over Walker.

Walker did show the ability last week to get through the hole quickly. He just doesn't seem to like to do it if there isnt a solid opening there, preferring to bounce it out.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

K9 is clearly the better back. But using Charbs on short yardage stuff, hell yeah. But, I'm not one who just thinks K9 can't put his head down and blast in there. He's done it and he flat out can. Now I figure I'll get 70 messages saying that he flat out CAN'T get a short yard, since I say he can. Kind of like the DK thread hahahaha

(lighten up, it's a joke)

 

[sutz]

I think they're both a little gun shy after getting hit in the backfield so many times. Hell, even when they have a hole they don't trust it and try to bounce it outside too often. By this time of year it's not just the O-line that isn't working. They've got 12 games of learned responses they're dealing with.

 

[Bobblehead]

Charb will get a crease to run through once in a while, mostly, I just wonder and anguish as to why Charbs is playing when they have Walker standing around on the sidelines.

 

[SweepSanFran]

My only problem with Charbs is he seem to need a bit of space to get up to speed and then he can really pound the ball. If there isnt a big hole for him or he isnt in space where he can accelerate to top speed he seems to go down fairly easy as wee have seen in games this year.

 

[pittpnthrs]

I like Charbs, but in no way do I think he should be starting ahead of K9. K9 has the ability to break one while I don't feel Charbs has that.

 

[Spin Doctor]

My only problem with Charbs is he seem to need a bit of space to get up to speed and then he can really pound the ball. If there isnt a big hole for him or he isnt in space where he can accelerate to top speed he seems to go down fairly easy as wee have seen in games this year.

I've noticed this too, he's not really a tough runner until he gets some momentum around him. He struggles to break tackles at the LOS and is easily brought down if somebody gets a hand on him. He is certainly no Marshawn Lynch.

 

[Appyhawk]

I loved the pick when we snagged Charbs and still do. I'm a little surprised it is taking him so long to get up to speed as a blocker though. When he can do that I would like to see them on the field together as a two back set with Charbs playing the fullback role. Not sure we can afford to do that though due to our depth thing. However, in very limited opps McIntosh has shown potential too, especially as third down option.

 

[SweepSanFran]

I would also like to see Holani get some real game time reps. I think he is a good mix of Walker and Charbs. May be a diamond in the ruff.

 

[JPatera76]

I like Charbs, but in no way do I think he should be starting ahead of K9. K9 has the ability to break one while I don't feel Charbs has that.

This ain’t about who should be starting ahead of k9..

Some of yall need to cut the pearl clutching about someone starting infront of k9 lol especially when Essentially all people were doing was giving a nod to Charbs.

 

[SweepSanFran]

I guess i need to be clear. I dont want anyone ahead of K9, he is our best back by a wide margin. I have my opinions about Charbs but K9 is the dog in the room.

 

[Sperrydogg]

Charbs stops and starts again too much

 

[Seahawks Guy]

This ain’t about who should be starting ahead of k9..

Some of yall need to cut the pearl clutching about someone starting infront of k9 lol especially when Essentially all people were doing was giving a nod to Charbs.

The way I read the OP seemed to imply that Charbonnet should start.

 

[Hollandhawk]

The way I read the OP seemed to imply that Walker should start.

That's an interesting take...But I tihnk you meant Charbonnet?

 

[SoulfishHawk]

What about a good Cab-er-Net or a good Mer-Lot?

 

[Kamcussionator]

He has looked really good, and much better for our style of running game than K9.

K9 is a jitterbug, and very good, in the right system, with an experienced OLine, but for what we have, Zach is the better choice. As we have seen, Zach can juke them, or run them over, getting good yardage, asks should be the only choice in short yardage.

Ray Roberts agrees, and said Charbonet is better for the scheme we use. I have no idea what he's talking about, but I do know what mine own eyes have seen, and they've seen Zach as the starter, with K9 spelling him, until we get better blocking at least..

We do a lot of zone runs -- where all the linemen slant in one direction. It's a one cut system -- put your foot in the ground and turn up field. This describes Charbonet's run style more than Walker's at this point.

Walker may have more talent, but he tends to dance around in the backfield like he's still in college and expects the sea to part. That's not how it works obviously, but those are his instincts.

Benching Walker for Charbonet might be a good thing for Walker's development. Alex Collins' riverdance routine was much the same until Adrian Peterson convinced him turning it up field and hitting the line was a better way to go.

Walker needs to see that being aggressive and avoiding negative plays is more valuable than standing in the backfield waiting for a twice-a-season defensive breakdown for a big gain. Until that light goes on for him, he's going to be a Michigan J. Frog kind of player.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Walker is absolutely capable of pounding it in there.
Benching Walker would be next level stupid, imo. Come on Kam. Walker is a MUCH better back.
Not trying to argue, but this recent fascination with saying a player can't do something he's absolutely either capable of, OR they just don't even have him do, is odd. To me.
Former players like Wyman and Ray Roberts talk about it all the time, how Walker is very capable of pounding it in there.

 

[rjdriver]

We need to decide on a better play call, not decide on a better running back.


Maybe it’s just me, but even when we do run on X and short, there seems to be a pause or delay in getting the ball to the back. With our O line, it allows the D to get well into our zone. There’s no way an NFL team should perpetually fail at advancing the ball 6 to 12 inches (sometimes with multiple tries).

 

[Seahawks Guy]

That's an interesting take...But I tihnk you meant Charbonnet?

Yes