FlyingGreg
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"He's too short"....remember? Suck in this, Kiper!
"He's too short"....remember? Suck in this, Kiper!
Evil_Shenanigans":149r0qqn said:How the hell does he get Player of the week and RG3 gets Rookie of the week? Did RG3 Rush for more yards or something?
HawkWow":1sjb213i said:Allow me to add that if Carroll let RussellWilson run amok like Sham-ahan does *RG3, there wouldn't be much of a discussion here. Wilson actually has to run a pro-style offense. This team first mentality diminishes personal accomplishments. Thank goodness.
*this is not to suggest RG3 is not fantastic. Obviously he is, but the offense he QBs is going to allow for more personal highlights and a good many fans/voters will recognise these death defying runs without considering the bigger picture.
kearly":1k63dlo2 said:Talk about your headscratchers.
SharkHawk":sc0jhbrf said:Ummm... you are aware that the Hawks put in the run/read option play specifically because they saw it working for RG3 and since that time RW's stats have gone up a great deal right? He picked up 70+ yards running it last week and was running something that looked darn near exactly what RG3 was running the same day. This was a conscious decision Pete made after seeing what Shanahan was doing with RG3 and why they were having so much success early in the year, and he felt it was a wrinkle that made perfect sense to add to the Hawks offense as a showpiece of it and they realized that it fit RW's skills, speed, ability to quickly read defenses, and so on. It isn't as if RW is running the pro set 50/50 run and drop back pass split and RG3 is running the spread option or the Wildcat. They are running something very very closely related. RW also has the benefit of that bubble screen they threw in a few weeks into the year because RG3 was also having success running it early and it was a way to get the ball moving and complete some passes and open up the middle of the field for the running game and loosen up some coverage on WR's.HawkWow":sc0jhbrf said:Allow me to add that if Carroll let RussellWilson run amok like Sham-ahan does *RG3, there wouldn't be much of a discussion here. Wilson actually has to run a pro-style offense. This team first mentality diminishes personal accomplishments. Thank goodness.
*this is not to suggest RG3 is not fantastic. Obviously he is, but the offense he QBs is going to allow for more personal highlights and a good many fans/voters will recognise these death defying runs without considering the bigger picture.
Hey new guy,Seahox":sc0jhbrf said:Umm... SharkHawk, you are a fan, and not a coach, scout, or anything else for that matter......please don't act like you know why things happen on the field. The post you just made is amateur at best. I would love to see you on the Seahawks sideline calling plays......ugh!
BlueTalon":1ww5tttj said:SharkHawk":1ww5tttj said:Ummm... you are aware that the Hawks put in the run/read option play specifically because they saw it working for RG3 and since that time RW's stats have gone up a great deal right? He picked up 70+ yards running it last week and was running something that looked darn near exactly what RG3 was running the same day. This was a conscious decision Pete made after seeing what Shanahan was doing with RG3 and why they were having so much success early in the year, and he felt it was a wrinkle that made perfect sense to add to the Hawks offense as a showpiece of it and they realized that it fit RW's skills, speed, ability to quickly read defenses, and so on. It isn't as if RW is running the pro set 50/50 run and drop back pass split and RG3 is running the spread option or the Wildcat. They are running something very very closely related. RW also has the benefit of that bubble screen they threw in a few weeks into the year because RG3 was also having success running it early and it was a way to get the ball moving and complete some passes and open up the middle of the field for the running game and loosen up some coverage on WR's.HawkWow":1ww5tttj said:Allow me to add that if Carroll let RussellWilson run amok like Sham-ahan does *RG3, there wouldn't be much of a discussion here. Wilson actually has to run a pro-style offense. This team first mentality diminishes personal accomplishments. Thank goodness.
*this is not to suggest RG3 is not fantastic. Obviously he is, but the offense he QBs is going to allow for more personal highlights and a good many fans/voters will recognise these death defying runs without considering the bigger picture.Hey new guy,Seahox":1ww5tttj said:Umm... SharkHawk, you are a fan, and not a coach, scout, or anything else for that matter......please don't act like you know why things happen on the field. The post you just made is amateur at best. I would love to see you on the Seahawks sideline calling plays......ugh!
There are a lot of knowledgeable people at this forum, including some coaches and players. Shark's post wasn't "amateur" in the least -- he apparently knows more about why things happen on the field better than you know why he wrote about it. He knows Pete made a conscious decision to implement RGIII stuff with RW because Pete told us exactly that!
SharkHawk's post contributed to the conversation. Your post, not so much. If you don't want to come across as a pompous @$$ in the future, don't be so quick to dismiss someone's post with the same lack of respect you showed this time. A little humility goes a long way.
Seahox":2co9y0px said:Umm... SharkHawk, you are a fan, and not a coach, scout, or anything else for that matter......please don't act like you know why things happen on the field. The post you just made is amateur at best. I would love to see you on the Seahawks sideline calling plays......ugh!